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re: How much is a full ride to Harvard worth?

Posted on 1/19/16 at 9:33 pm to
Posted by tconle2
Member since Sep 2011
4104 posts
Posted on 1/19/16 at 9:33 pm to
I don't know for a player, but a academic scholarship for a non athlete is basically not much. My brother had a 4.0 gpa, 36 act, and outstanding sat score and couldn't get anything. Princeton would give a little, but not much.
Posted by Jmorr0011
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2014
258 posts
Posted on 1/19/16 at 9:47 pm to
It's all about the application. Haven't you guys ever seen Legally Blonde?

Aaaand I'll show myself out now.
Posted by sincerecontact
Member since Mar 2014
114 posts
Posted on 1/19/16 at 9:50 pm to
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I seriously doubt he has a full academic scholarship to Harvard

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You may be right but what do you base that on?

The Ivy League schools do not offer athletic scholarships.

As for the cost of attendance, it's $60,629/year for tuition plus room and board.

But, Harvard, Yale and others are getting much better at financial aid:
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students from families with incomes below $65,000, and with assets typical for that income level, will generally pay nothing toward the cost of attending Harvard College. Families with incomes between $65,000 and $150,000 will contribute from 0 to 10 percent of income, depending on individual circumstances.


Source: Harvard at a Glance
Posted by DeafVallyBatnR
Member since Sep 2004
16907 posts
Posted on 1/19/16 at 9:56 pm to
Harvard does not give athletic scholarships.

I don't think
Posted by AndyJ
Member since Jul 2008
2767 posts
Posted on 1/19/16 at 9:57 pm to
Harvard and a lot of the Ivy League schools give a lot of financial assistance. I just plugged some numbers into their financial aid calculator. From La with a parental income of $60,000 or less, he would be on the hook for $4600 per year. This sliding scale goes up with increasing parental income. So if football gets him into Harvard, it won't be that hard to pay for it.
This post was edited on 1/19/16 at 10:23 pm
Posted by Phil2012
The planet
Member since Dec 2005
6213 posts
Posted on 1/19/16 at 9:57 pm to
Their endowment balance has taken quite a hit this month...things could change...
Posted by sincerecontact
Member since Mar 2014
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Posted on 1/19/16 at 10:04 pm to
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Their endowment balance has taken quite a hit this month...things could change...

There is considerable, and increasing, effort going into scholarship funding and easing the cost of attendance at Ivy League schools. It's a big priority, and it's not likely to be near the top of the list if funding is cut to some areas.
Posted by SouthlakeTiger
Southlake, Texas
Member since Mar 2005
6017 posts
Posted on 1/19/16 at 10:39 pm to
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They provide Financial aid to all accepted students based on there families household income.


I know someone who is not going their.
Posted by Alt26
Member since Mar 2010
28632 posts
Posted on 1/19/16 at 10:54 pm to
It depends on how he sees life after college football. Obviously being a good/great QB at an SEC school gives you a better shot at becoming an NFL QB. However, with Scott's measurables it's hard to see him being a NFL player.

On the other hand, Harvard may not open up doors to NFL on field greatness, but that degree opens up more doors in other professions than just about any school in the world.
Posted by CarrolltonTiger
New Orleans
Member since Aug 2005
50291 posts
Posted on 1/19/16 at 11:03 pm to
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The Ivy League outlaws athletic scholarships. They can give him an academic scholarship, but I don't know how much that'd be.


He reportedly has a 25 on his ACT, not bad for an SEC athlete but he wouldn't sniff Harvard if all things were equal. If he gets a scholarship to Harvard its for athletics not academics, no matter what Harvard says they give and don't give.
Posted by Neauxla
New Orleans
Member since Feb 2008
33450 posts
Posted on 1/20/16 at 12:31 am to
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quote:
They provide Financial aid to all accepted students based on there families household income.


I know someone who is not going their.


What you did they're...I see it.
Posted by CaliTigerForLife
California
Member since Nov 2015
1215 posts
Posted on 1/20/16 at 1:16 am to
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He would get an academic scholly only if he qualifies. No idea if that is the case or not. But no athletic scholly just an invitation to pay full tuition. It can help you gain entrance though.


There would have to be some sort of exception for him as an athlete to get into Harvard with a 25 ACT score. I could be wrong, but I'm pretty sure that's the case. Minimum requirements to get into MIT are a 30 on the ACT. That's only since we're talking about him attending school there if he chooses that route. Would love to have him here. Either way, I'll wish a Louisiana boy the best.
Posted by DeathValley85
Member since May 2011
17272 posts
Posted on 1/20/16 at 2:41 am to
He will get into Harvard because he's an athlete...but his "scholarship" will be based on his family's income.

I would guess that very very few students there actually pay sticker price. I imagine Harvard doesn't want a whole mess of kids saying no because they can't afford it.

Quite frankly Harvard's endowment is massive and they can probably do whatever they want in this regard.
Posted by mdomingue
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2010
31088 posts
Posted on 1/20/16 at 6:21 am to
A good article on Ivy League practices from 2011

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The Ivy League does not award athletic scholarships, but led by endowment-rich members like Harvard, Yale and Princeton, the conference has spent hundreds of millions of dollars in additional need-based aid — with most of the universities all but eliminating student loans and essentially doubling the size of grants meant for middle-income families.


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A recruited Ivy League athlete must have the academic credentials to survive the stringent and highly selective admissions process at each institution. Coaches have little sway in the admissions process, although they do provide a list of potential athletes to admissions officials. Across the league, about 13 percent of each university’s incoming class is composed of athletes chosen from coaches’ lists.


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At most Ivy League institutions, families earning less than about $65,000 annually are now asked to make no contribution to their children’s education. Families making $65,000 to $180,000 might be expected to pay 10 percent to 18 percent of their annual income on a sliding scale. Ten years ago, such families would have been expected to pay almost twice as much, and their child would probably have accumulated a debt of about $25,000 after four years.
Posted by jamboots08
Jacksonville, Fl
Member since Apr 2015
417 posts
Posted on 1/20/16 at 6:45 am to
I love LSU. I love everything about it.

Harvard would be tough to turn down.
Posted by St Augustine
The Pauper of the Surf
Member since Mar 2006
64477 posts
Posted on 1/20/16 at 6:49 am to
Hypothetically unless my son was a serious nfl prospect with a ton of arm talent I have to think I would strongly encourage him to go to Harvard .

Hell, I guess there are more former Harvard qbs starting in the nfl than lsu.
This post was edited on 1/20/16 at 6:50 am
Posted by chalmetteowl
Chalmette
Member since Jan 2008
47954 posts
Posted on 1/20/16 at 6:51 am to
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Harvard would be tough to turn down.
This

They might not play the big boys but I saw the Harvard Dartmouth game this year on NBCSN so they do get on tv

Bottom line is that there is only one Harvard
Posted by JakeFromStateFarm
*wears khakis
Member since Jun 2012
11936 posts
Posted on 1/20/16 at 7:02 am to
Here's the real question, why is everyone so worried about Scott's Harvard offer? He was committed to Syracuse almost all year even though he had that schollarship offer to Harvard on the table and he decommitted when a bigger football program offered him.
Posted by mdomingue
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2010
31088 posts
Posted on 1/20/16 at 7:05 am to
On admissions standards
Harvard admissions brochure

quote:

ADMISSION: WHAT ARE WE LOOKING FOR? Some admission candidates will demonstrate extraordinary promise in academic or research endeavors. Some will show uncommon talent in other areas, such as leadership, performing arts, or athletics. Most of our students combine the best of both scholastic and extracurricular achievement. Personal qualities—integrity, maturity, strength of character, and concern for others—also will play an important part in our evaluations.


Bold is the work around for HS academic achievement.

On Testing
From FAQ on Harvard.edu

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Do I need a minimum required SAT, ACT or Subject Test score? We do not have minimum scores or cut-offs; however, the majority of students admitted represent a range of scores from roughly 600 to 800 on each section of the SAT as well as on the SAT Subject Tests. The 25th percentile for admitted students on the SAT is about 2100; the 75th percentile is about 2350. We regard test results as helpful indicators of academic ability and achievement when considered thoughtfully among many other factors.


So, essentially, standard dictated by who they want to admit/exclude.
Posted by Woodman
Seattle WA
Member since Aug 2009
1947 posts
Posted on 1/20/16 at 7:18 am to
Is that what he has; a 25? If one scores under about a 33, it would be a real struggle to make the grades to be able to stay on scholarship and be able to suit up to play at Harvard.
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