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re: How good of a recruiter is Miles (1-10) ?

Posted on 9/14/10 at 11:36 pm to
Posted by 3XTiger
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Posted on 9/14/10 at 11:36 pm to
9.3
Posted by Mikeno
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Posted on 9/14/10 at 11:36 pm to
Easily a Ten as a recruiter. There are only 4 or 5 other programs than can make a claim of having more talent.
Posted by TheHiddenFlask
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Posted on 9/14/10 at 11:39 pm to
9.5

All of the dumbasses saying anything below 8 in this thread are just trying to be flaming bags of douche.
Posted by flyingtiger
San Antonio, TX
Member since Jun 2005
455 posts
Posted on 9/15/10 at 6:00 am to
You should remember that 1st class was more on Saban than Miles. We didn't have many spots available and Miles only had a month to bring in the rest...so discard that year to give him a true recruiting ranking.

Of you list of kids that "didn't sign with LSU" I recall that Davis, Alexander, and Harris did not have offers in the end, Benton "signed with LSU twice but was a dumb dumb and Sentimore would not accept a grayshirt.

With all of that said Miles' recruiting is a 9. If he could attract better QBs then it'd be damn near perfect!
Posted by GIR
Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 9/15/10 at 7:02 am to
Kinda like in golf. To get his handicap you should through out his best class and worst class then get an average.
Posted by NSUKSIG
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Posted on 9/15/10 at 8:09 am to
I would have to sayat least 9.
He has top recruiting classes every year.

I would say Nick Saban would be a 10. kills me to say that.
Posted by Tiger Authority
Member since Jul 2007
29476 posts
Posted on 9/15/10 at 8:35 am to
Nic Harris shouldn't be listed.

Miles gets a 9. Has done a great job of recruiting, only exception being inability to keep offensive lineman.
Posted by dagrippa
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Posted on 9/15/10 at 8:52 am to
Easily a 9 or higher. He's even pulled QBs...they just haven't panned out as well.
Posted by Suntiger
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Posted on 9/15/10 at 9:05 am to
quote:

Nic Harris


That was more on Saban ignoring ASH and it was Miles' first year.

quote:

DeAngelo Benton


Not Miles' fault either. We gave him several years to get in here.


quote:

How good of a recruiter is Miles (1-10) ?


9
Posted by kevg33
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Posted on 9/15/10 at 9:07 am to
One of top 5 in country 9.5
Posted by Good Times
Hill top in Tn
Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 9/15/10 at 9:20 am to
quote:


Which makes it even more astounding that this coach who can't develop players and can't coach the game properly can still be a good recruiter. Most LSU "supporters" have seen 5+ years of Miles and think he should be fired. Why don't the future players think this?



My thoughts exactly. If the other top recruiters were handicapped by hostile fans, and hostile media, they would not be as successful. For this reason I give him a 10. In this assessment, is the fact that he has hired good recruiters, but has had turnovers on the staff and still gets 'em to come to LSU. So I guess that he is also a good recruiter recruiter.
Posted by LSU Patrick
Member since Jan 2009
78296 posts
Posted on 9/15/10 at 9:26 am to
quote:

He can bring in talent, but it isn't evenly spread out across position groups.


A lot of this has had to do with what has been available in LA and bordering states.

I give him a 9.3. If he ends up with a top 3 class for 2011, then I would raise it to 9.7.
Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
91775 posts
Posted on 9/15/10 at 9:49 am to
I dont think it is as easy as you think. In this day universities are on a much more even playing scale


at lsu? lsu is easily one of the top 5 easiest places to recruit. 1. resources 2. facilities 3. in-state talent 4. most elite conference----

quote:
And it really isnt the In state talent that makes him a great
recruiter,


yes it is

quote:
it's the oos guys he reels in from places weve never recruited.


no it isnt. over 75% of our players come from LA----

our next coach will be able to recruit here just as well as miles--- and i firmly believe that.



Go back and look at the classes. And to be honest only people in the sec think we are the best conference. And yes a lot of other schools have just as much resources and just as good facilities we have. Especially in the sec. And check the years that were down years in la and you will find that we had about 50-50 in state to out of state. Plus u argument for saying that it's easy to recruit Louisiana means it doesn't matter what instate talent we get cus they would automatically come here. So think about the east coast guys, then think about the Michigan/ ohio five star players we got. We took them from programs that are rt up there with facilities . Les consitantly recruits against ou, Texas, the sec west, uf, uga, and Miami. Not too many coaches can say the succesfully can do that without leading to sanctions. All you people are just trying to flame one of the best recruiters in the country.
This post was edited on 9/15/10 at 9:53 am
Posted by chinese58
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Member since Jun 2004
33959 posts
Posted on 9/15/10 at 9:54 am to
If he is as bad a coach as quite a few here say then he has to be the #1 recruiter in the nation.

How does he talk all of these guys into coming here if it is so obvious that he is the worst division one coach in the country?

The all-out Miles haters are the same people who always say, "Anyone could recruit Louisiana".

These jackasses think they could coach and recruit just as well as Miles, Saban, Cholly Mac or Dietzel.

Miles is obviously a great recruiter.
Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
91775 posts
Posted on 9/15/10 at 10:05 am to
Louisiana is a small state. Yes we have talent, but rarely enough to fill a whole class. You get the guys as a base then move from there. Not to mention we rarely have good qbs, and rarely have good linebackers. So we have to go out of state for those.

I know for a fact one yr we had more oos than instate. If LSU was so easy to recruit, then why didn't we have a #1 class until 2002? Not to mention the diff between 1-3 is very small from year to year.
Posted by LSUROCKS52
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Posted on 9/15/10 at 10:09 am to
holy shite this post is hard to decipher, learn how to quote man


quote:

And to be honest only people in the sec think we are the best conference.


and the rest of those people are only kidding themselves. Look at the complete dominance by the SEC in the BCS era. Look at how many people make the NFL each year from the SEC and start in the NFL. The SEC is the most elite conference, PERIOD!


the rest of your post i completely agree with. It is hard to go in and recruit against other big name programs in their own backyards and I don't care what excuses people wanna make, landing the likes of PP, ware, shepherd, loston, tolliver, barksdale OOS are huge gets.
Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
91775 posts
Posted on 9/15/10 at 10:15 am to
im on i phone the quotes dont work my friend

quick research i just did
2006 13 of 26 are oos
2007 15 of 26 are oos
2008 12 of 26 are oos
2009 12 of 24 are oos
2010 14 of 29 are oos

so if you see... if our coaches didnt go oos for recruits our classes would have sucked miserably. And if our coach wasnt one of the best recruiter's we wouldnt have had this success.

so 66 out of 131 recruits = 50.38% so i dont know where that guy was getting that 75% of our players come from louisiana.
This post was edited on 9/15/10 at 10:20 am
Posted by MetArl15
Washington, DC
Member since Apr 2007
13818 posts
Posted on 9/15/10 at 10:29 am to
8

Brings in highly ranked classes, but there are too many holes for it to be higher than that. The QB and OLine recruiting especially has been subpar.
Posted by seeLSUrun
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2005
23038 posts
Posted on 9/15/10 at 10:29 am to
to the guy who said 5/10, you sir are not a good evaluator of talent and i damn sure hope you don't write performance reports for work. Miles flipping Patrick Peterson alone was one of the biggest recruiting wins LSU history considering how engrained UM was in his blood and now he has his ultra talented brother also because of that init effort
Posted by nwlatiger69
bossier city, la
Member since Sep 2010
6 posts
Posted on 9/15/10 at 10:47 am to
As much as I hate to say it, it was Saban that started LSU on a recruiting roll. He went in there and updated the facilities because he knew that that would help bring in the talent. Miles has recruited well dont get me wrong, but he was set up to succeed in that category when he took the job. I just wish he could recruit a QB that would work in this so called offense they are running.
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