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Hill incident videotaped?

Posted on 1/13/11 at 7:38 am
Posted by OldManRiver
Prairieville, LA
Member since Jan 2005
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Posted on 1/13/11 at 7:38 am
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According to an unnamed source, the incident was videotaped, making a plea bargain unlikely.

Guess if it goes far enough, we won't have to decide on he said/she said for consent. A tape should clearly show her state of mind during the act.

Reveille
Posted by The Mick
Member since Oct 2010
43077 posts
Posted on 1/13/11 at 7:40 am to
State of mind is one part of it, statutory issue will be another.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
421731 posts
Posted on 1/13/11 at 7:50 am to
if they pressured her, i still don't see how it's oral sexual battery

if they didn't pressure her, it's still stat rape

the video will clear up the "pressure" aspect at least. they're f'd on the stat rape no matter what. it is what it is
Posted by OldManRiver
Prairieville, LA
Member since Jan 2005
6922 posts
Posted on 1/13/11 at 7:54 am to
quote:

if they pressured her, i still don't see how it's oral sexual battery

What would it be then? I'm not a lawyer, but reading the statute it appeared consent/force wasn't an issue for battery, just the age difference and the act.
Posted by real
Dixieland
Member since Oct 2007
14027 posts
Posted on 1/13/11 at 7:54 am to
If the tape shows oral sex happen, then either way he is done and rightly so. Hell she is only 14! Just out of middle school! If true, Les needs to send this piece of shite packing ,which im sure it will happen soon.
Posted by Monk
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2007
3660 posts
Posted on 1/13/11 at 8:22 am to
quote:

Guess if it goes far enough, we won't have to decide on he said/she said for consent.


He's toast even if she fully and completely consented. Consent is meaningless with the charge against him. At best, it might lessen the time he could serve.
Posted by 1pumpgump
Member since Oct 2010
19 posts
Posted on 1/13/11 at 8:22 am to
The film will be the death blow b/c its a minor on tape doing a sexual act. It' ll be a two back set in Angola with Jeremy and Cecil
Posted by Prominentwon
LSU, McNeese St. Fan
Member since Jan 2005
93693 posts
Posted on 1/13/11 at 8:24 am to
So will whoever watches the tape be arrested for watching it? Just a thought. (jk)
Posted by dstone12
Texan
Member since Jan 2007
30073 posts
Posted on 1/13/11 at 8:28 am to
I'm confused.

Was there a security cam in the locker room?
If so....wierd.


If it was a camcorder brought by Hill?
If so....stupid.



Either way these guys are screwed glued and tattooed.





Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
30961 posts
Posted on 1/13/11 at 8:31 am to
Dude she is a frehsman, I know when I was in school it was normal for many of the juniors and seniors to go after the freshman. It's not that big of a deal. Personally if the video shows he didnt pressure her then I don't feel he did anything wrong. Jmo. I know they will get him for stat rape though.


All Yall saying its fricked up, would you have turned down a blowjob from a 17year old freshman at lsu when u were a 22-23 year d senior at lsu? It's the same thing.
Posted by Rouge
Floston Paradise
Member since Oct 2004
136793 posts
Posted on 1/13/11 at 8:32 am to
if taped, theni REALLY dont understand why it took a month for all of this to go public
Posted by SPEEDY
2005 Tiger Smack Poster of the Year
Member since Dec 2003
83346 posts
Posted on 1/13/11 at 8:33 am to
quote:

would you have turned down a blowjob from a 17year old freshman at lsu when u were a 22-23 year d senior at lsu? It's the same thing.





Posted by BhamTigah
Lurker since Jan 2003
Member since Jan 2007
14098 posts
Posted on 1/13/11 at 8:36 am to
quote:

C.(1) Whoever commits the crime of oral sexual battery shall be punished by imprisonment, with or without hard labor, without benefit of parole, probation, or suspension of sentence, for not more than ten years.

(2) Whoever commits the crime of oral sexual battery on a victim under the age of thirteen years when the offender is seventeen years of age or older shall be punished by imprisonment at hard labor for not less than twenty-five years nor more than ninety-nine years. At least twenty-five years of the sentence imposed shall be served without benefit of parole, probation, or suspension of sentence.

(3) Upon completion of the term of imprisonment imposed in accordance with Paragraph (2) of this Subsection, the offender shall be monitored by the Department of Public Safety and Corrections through the use of electronic monitoring equipment for the remainder of his natural life.


What a difference a year makes.
Posted by saderade
America's City
Member since Jul 2005
25730 posts
Posted on 1/13/11 at 8:44 am to
quote:

Dude she is a frehsman, I know when I was in school it was normal for many of the juniors and seniors to go after the freshman
Maybe in your small town trash high school but not in any kind of respectable school. Imagine if the Catholic high football star went after a St Joe's freshman. He would have been laughed out of school and labeled a total creepo. Same thing can be said for any of the Catholic high schools in New Orleans.
Posted by Indiana Tiger
Member since Feb 2005
4057 posts
Posted on 1/13/11 at 8:45 am to
quote:

Dude she is a frehsman, I know when I was in school it was normal for many of the juniors and seniors to go after the freshman. It's not that big of a deal. Personally if the video shows he didnt pressure her then I don't feel he did anything wrong. Jmo. I know they will get him for stat rape though.


All Yall saying its fricked up, would you have turned down a blowjob from a 17year old freshman at lsu when u were a 22-23 year d senior at lsu? It's the same thing.

While a lot of these young girls are physically developed and look older, they are not. They are still dealing with hormones and feelings that are quite new to them. The difference between a 14 and 17 yr old is exponentially huge compared to the age difference.
Posted by Alt26
Member since Mar 2010
28256 posts
Posted on 1/13/11 at 8:47 am to
quote:

If the tape shows oral sex happen, then either way he is done and rightly so. Hell she is only 14! Just out of middle school! If true, Les needs to send this piece of shite packing ,which im sure it will happen soon.


Just like all of us here, I don't know the whole story. But all 14 year old girls today aren't what 14 year old girls used to be. Look at the clothes they wear, the TV shows portraying slutty girls that 14 year olds watch. Sex isn't as taboo for a 14 year old (boy or girl) as it used to be for many of us growing up.

The statutory age difference is what it is and there's no defense for that. But lets not rush to the crucify the boys for "pressuring" this poor young girl mindset just yet. I hate that it has to be that way, but today's morals have made it so.
Posted by spslayto
Member since Feb 2004
19693 posts
Posted on 1/13/11 at 8:49 am to
quote:

All Yall saying its fricked up, would you have turned down a blowjob from a 17year old freshman at lsu when u were a 22-23 year d senior at lsu? It's the same thing.


It's not the same--at least not according to the law.
Posted by BROffshoreTigerFan
Edmond, OK
Member since Oct 2007
10004 posts
Posted on 1/13/11 at 8:52 am to
quote:

All Yall saying its fricked up, would you have turned down a blowjob from a 17year old freshman at lsu when u were a 22-23 year d senior at lsu? It's the same thing.


Unless I'm completely wrong, 17 is the age of consent in Louisiana, so your statement is inaccurate, because she would be legal.

It's not even close to the same thing when you actually read the laws.
Posted by Teacher
Member since Sep 2006
3060 posts
Posted on 1/13/11 at 8:56 am to
quote:

Dude she is a frehsman, I know when I was in school it was normal for many of the juniors and seniors to go after the freshman. It's not that big of a deal. Personally if the video shows he didnt pressure her then I don't feel he did anything wrong. Jmo. I know they will get him for stat rape though.


That is rape and in LA they will get 15-25 years because of her age. LA is hard on under age rape.
Posted by c on z
Zamunda
Member since Mar 2009
127381 posts
Posted on 1/13/11 at 8:58 am to
Had no idea Jeremy Hill lived in Centurion Place.

Not too far from where I live.
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