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Gold Standards in Recruiting

Posted on 2/9/24 at 8:16 am
Posted by TigerPlate
North Dallas
Member since Dec 2023
365 posts
Posted on 2/9/24 at 8:16 am
What things are most important to you in evaluating recruits.
In the past i was looking at Star power.
Now I think the most important factors is recruiting a position of need. His upside ability to develop. Is he a team player, coachable, intelligent enough to learn on field and classroom. work ethic, physical development, health, So many variables. Coach has lots to consider and evaluation of talent is key factor to success. we have seen 5* bust and three stars become starters. Intangibles are also important. Recruiting is an art form.
Posted by J2thaROC
Member since May 2018
14365 posts
Posted on 2/9/24 at 8:24 am to
Trenches.

You win that battle on both sides of the ball, odds are in your favor that you win that game.

All this “DBU” garbage is a neat little thing to say, but I’d give up ever signing another 5 star DB or WR for 5 star O and D linemen every day all day.
Posted by Bert Macklin FBI
Quantico
Member since May 2013
11047 posts
Posted on 2/9/24 at 8:25 am to
Shoe size is definitely most important. If they got big feet... you know the rest.
This post was edited on 2/9/24 at 8:26 am
Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
Member since Nov 2003
285044 posts
Posted on 2/9/24 at 8:35 am to
Good standards start with things you can measure: height / weight/ speed / agility. Then you build out from there.

Not mythical things like “star power” or “coachability”. Vetting a player’s personality comes after you have determined if they can physically play in the SEC or not.
Posted by SOL2
Dallas burbs
Member since Jan 2020
6213 posts
Posted on 2/9/24 at 8:42 am to
signing 4 or more five stars. That's the gold standard.
Posted by PureBlood
The Motherland
Member since Oct 2021
4863 posts
Posted on 2/9/24 at 8:51 am to
quote:

What things are most important to you in evaluating recruits.



young guys who are 3 stars with the potential to pop into 4 or 5 stars later in their HS career.

Get them in the system and aligned when no one else wanted them. Breeds loyalty and hard work.
Posted by lsusteve1
Member since Dec 2004
44138 posts
Posted on 2/9/24 at 9:38 am to
Dawgs
Posted by DUKE87
Covington, LA
Member since May 2021
1228 posts
Posted on 2/9/24 at 9:44 am to
Does the player have fight in them. Or great work ethic.

Posted by Sissidog02
Member since Jan 2020
6194 posts
Posted on 2/9/24 at 9:45 am to
So true and the way you become DBU, is pressure from the trenches, it takes pressure off the DBs and better yet the QB doesn’t have time to survey field. There’s an article where a 25 5* DB is leaning to Miami. He also has LSU in the mix but specifically mentions Miami great DLs has a lot to do with his fondness of Miami. He said it makes it easy on the DBs w/ a stout DL. We know this is true, imho that’s why I believe our highest rated DBs flew the coop in 24.
Posted by geauxnavybeatbama
Member since Jul 2013
25134 posts
Posted on 2/9/24 at 9:47 am to
Character, loyalty and how they think about life after football. They also need ris because we've been missing that lately

sounds silly, but I'll take a lower tier 4 star with those characteristics over a guy like Denver Harris
Posted by mdomingue
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2010
38248 posts
Posted on 2/9/24 at 2:19 pm to
quote:

All this “DBU” garbage is a neat little thing to say, but I’d give up ever signing another 5 star DB or WR for 5 star O and D linemen every day all day.



I have said it before and I will say it again. A great Dline makes an average defensive backfield suddenly great. And a bad DLine makes an average defensive backfield putrid.
Posted by dkreller
Laffy
Member since Jan 2009
32356 posts
Posted on 2/9/24 at 9:52 pm to
The size of his lunch pail means a lot.
Posted by atxfan
Member since Jul 2004
3782 posts
Posted on 2/9/24 at 10:22 pm to
As far as evaluating a recruit as an armchair I would say offer list. Big time schools have big time recruiting departments and if there is a consensus on a player, even if the services have them as a 3 star, they are probably legit.
Posted by LSUDad
Still on the move
Member since May 2004
60693 posts
Posted on 2/9/24 at 10:32 pm to
Paid scouts are good, but a great staff can find talent, without stars.
Posted by Pikes Peak Tiger
Colorado Springs
Member since Jun 2023
6694 posts
Posted on 2/10/24 at 8:20 am to
quote:

young guys who are 3 stars with the potential to pop into 4 or 5 stars later in their HS career.


LOL. This site would crash with all the bitching if we just signed 3 starts with potential to better.

Look at Bama and Georgia.

The secret is signing as many 5 stars as you can and supplement with as many 4 stars as you can.

A few may be busts but it’s a better risk than hoping lower tier guys play above their heads.
Posted by Grasshopper
Ocean Springs, MS
Member since Dec 2007
984 posts
Posted on 2/10/24 at 8:53 am to
I can't remember the guy's name but Bear Bryant found one of his All American return guys by accident. He wasn't even on the team he just saw his speed.

The high school coach though he was just a local idiot.
Posted by lsufanva
sandston virginia
Member since Aug 2009
13109 posts
Posted on 2/10/24 at 9:13 am to
quote:

As far as evaluating a recruit as an armchair I would say offer list. Big time schools have big time recruiting departments and if there is a consensus on a player, even if the services have them as a 3 star, they are probably legit


In theory I can agree. Problem is the theory is always a theory. No real factual or provable information outside of the elitish guys. There is no standard for determining offers. Which are legit, which are miscommunication, which are committable, etc.

Hurley
Billiot
Turner
Watkins
Cryer
Williams
Calloway
Breaux
Johnson
Jackson
Causey
Woodland
Foster
If going forward based on offer lists as the top indicator, we should be majorly disappointed. None had offer lists(not talking bullshite "reported" offers)that scream "take him". Even the big offers some of them got were very early and weren't committable by the time they committed. To break it down further, a guy like Reliford who we celebrate as a major piece, wasn't really highly thought of outside his geographical region. Even those who do rankings aren't very high on him outside of 1 small group of On3 evaluators. How should we feel about this class using offer lists? Seems they're not a great indicator for those judging quality of prospects. They are solid indicators when talking specifically about prospects not as a general rule for everyone. Example, an OL or TE with an offer from Iowa is likely someone you should look into. A QB with an offer from a Les Miles staff, likely not. Most don't break it down that specifically when mentioning offer lists. They just see a school name on a website profile and let their minds do the rest as confirmation of quality no matter the context. Bad strategy imo.
Posted by olgoi khorkhoi
priapism survivor
Member since May 2011
15828 posts
Posted on 2/10/24 at 11:29 am to
quote:

What things are most important to you in evaluating recruits.




I'm not paid or qualified to evaluate recruits.
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
47007 posts
Posted on 2/10/24 at 12:10 pm to
quote:

Trenches.

You win that battle on both sides of the ball,

You win by being better at every position. I’ve seen many games won by the team with the weaker lines because they were stronger elsewhere.
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