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re: Colin Hurley Updated Ranking on 247

Posted on 11/17/22 at 7:14 am to
Posted by dstone12
Texan
Member since Jan 2007
30477 posts
Posted on 11/17/22 at 7:14 am to
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Pretty disappointing.


Until about 2025 when you realize that Brian Kelly offered him and he’s doing just fine.


Fellas, you’ll see (or maybe some of you won’t) that we’ve got a great team of evaluators that take 3 star portals from Arky, Louisiana, Fiu etc and contend for the sec in year one.


It’s going to be a combination that f good recruiting and talent eval.


The RB is a good place to visit, and I’m not saying it has zero merit for bad feelz, but the reciprocal of all that is; CBK is eliminating the catastrophe syndrome of the TR and the RB.

Enjoy it.
Posted by whitefoot
Franklin, TN
Member since Aug 2006
11181 posts
Posted on 11/17/22 at 7:22 am to
Yeah. This is pretty much how I'm feeling.

Miles and Orgeron both had fairly significant deficiencies as actual football coaches, so the talent on the roster was the most important aspect of us having success with them.

Talent is still extremely important for us to consistently be where we want this program to be, but I don't have the feeling the wheels are going to come off if we miss on some big targets.
Posted by dstone12
Texan
Member since Jan 2007
30477 posts
Posted on 11/17/22 at 8:39 am to
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but I don't have the feeling the wheels are going to come off if we miss on some big targets.

Me too. Additionally, it’s happened for decades:

The wheels have been tightly screwed on for 3 stars that became draftees. They were never misses. Too early to tell, but 3 star Mason Taylor is doing just fine.

Furthermore, Hurley has 15 months to increase his rating to make the stargazers change their minds.

But he didn’t need that much time for CBK to give him an offer.

Posted by Toptigerfan86
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2022
2833 posts
Posted on 11/17/22 at 8:44 am to
Yea it’s pretty funny how all of a sudden the jock sniffing nerds who want to be scouts have those concerns? They just realized he’s 6’0. He’s also 15. So he may grow a little more

Oh and Ryan Day had him has his top QB prospect for the class so I don’t think I’d be too worried
Posted by Kocin
Pearland Texas
Member since Feb 2017
625 posts
Posted on 11/17/22 at 8:47 am to
Red Shirt Freshman at 17 or True Freshman at 17 really not at big deal only difference is that when he turns 17 he will have been in the program with our coaches for a year
Posted by Tvilletiger
PVB
Member since Oct 2015
5040 posts
Posted on 11/17/22 at 8:54 am to
Only thing I can m say is the qb coach he has here is the same one that has worked with Anthony Richardson. Dude is an idiot on the radio all the time. I do like him going after what is the supposedly the best in the area though. I think it is very tough coming to college that early. That could be an issue. Would not be surprised to see him come home and go to Florida or Florida state. The qb coach is on record saying many times it is not where you sign anymore but where you use the portal to transfer to.
This post was edited on 11/17/22 at 9:00 am
Posted by ROPO
Member since Jul 2016
3102 posts
Posted on 11/17/22 at 9:05 am to
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Please tell us where you have gained this much knowledge? You seem to know what’s best for High school recruits



Well, I was a football recruit (who didn't pan out) and am the father of a football recruit. So I come from that perspective. Not sure why my opinion threatens you. It's not that remarkable of an opinion really: don't be in a rush, live life and your time will come.

I guess because he's our new shiny QB recruit he can do no wrong and anyone even asking "is this really the best thing for him" is wrong. That's fine. Will be interesting to see this all play out. As an LSU fan I hope it works out for the best.
Posted by richbad
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2008
1157 posts
Posted on 11/17/22 at 12:59 pm to
247 is a fricking joke wouldn’t put any stock in what those clowns say.
Posted by DeafVallyBatnR
Member since Sep 2004
16879 posts
Posted on 11/17/22 at 1:50 pm to
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But I watched a video 247 put out last week about how quarterbacks who reclassify tend to underperform, maybe they are going off past expectations here.


I watched Ewers HS tape and it was very impressive. Colin However has some maturing to do in his game. Very talented kid. But you can tell he is just finding his potential. Ewers was ready to go. He screwed up going to Ohio St. He has yet to catchup to the DB speeds in college.
Posted by Indiana Tiger
Member since Feb 2005
4057 posts
Posted on 11/17/22 at 2:06 pm to
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But I watched a video 247 put out last week about how quarterbacks who reclassify tend to underperform, maybe they are going off past expectations here. Looks like they also updated his bio and have included information about how he will start college at 16 as well.


Their hypothesis, and that's all that it is since there really isn't a lot of data on this, is that the last year let's the athlete mature more and gain more playing experience. In Hurley's case I have to wonder how much beneficial experience he can really gain staying at his school with the level of competition he faces.

Trinity Christian is in the smallest metro high school division (Florida just completely reorganized their setup). It's easier to think about the previous organization. There were 8 classifications and Trinity was 2A last year (3A previously). Since he started as an 8th grader, he will have 4 years of experience. How much better can he get at that level?

Posted by BillF
Monroe, LA
Member since Jan 2006
5073 posts
Posted on 11/17/22 at 2:57 pm to
Did they update Stetson Bennett's ranking?
Posted by Cadello
Eunice
Member since Dec 2007
47810 posts
Posted on 11/17/22 at 2:58 pm to
I have no opinion of the kids ability, my concern is all the ones here that are telling the kid what to do. He has to make his own choices, good or bad. He has put in the work, it’s his choice.
Posted by Merchant Tiger
Member since Jul 2022
275 posts
Posted on 11/17/22 at 3:04 pm to
Just look at the offer list. The big names want him even more now.
Posted by Tigerpride18
Lakewood Colorado
Member since Sep 2017
29563 posts
Posted on 11/17/22 at 3:20 pm to
Don’t they always make guys work their way up when they are all of the sudden in a new class?

How much did he drop on overall composite in 247?
Posted by ROPO
Member since Jul 2016
3102 posts
Posted on 11/17/22 at 4:13 pm to
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I have no opinion of the kids ability, my concern is all the ones here that are telling the kid what to do. He has to make his own choices, good or bad. He has put in the work, it’s his choice.



For sure.
Posted by Cadello
Eunice
Member since Dec 2007
47810 posts
Posted on 11/17/22 at 4:16 pm to
Posted by DVinBR
Member since Jan 2013
13044 posts
Posted on 11/17/22 at 9:48 pm to
a 3 star recruit just beat alabama a few weeks back
Posted by Mr Clean
New Iberia
Member since Aug 2006
49526 posts
Posted on 11/18/22 at 9:31 am to
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Don’t they always make guys work their way up when they are all of the sudden in a new class?


Desmond Ricks and Quinn Ewers stayed near or at the top
Posted by Toptigerfan86
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2022
2833 posts
Posted on 11/18/22 at 9:52 am to
Yea the recruiting services are pretty much a joke. Most people know it.

Look at the offers not a ranking handed out by people who never played or only played in high school.

I’ll trust the coaches whose jobs depend on evaluating talent over people who are known to manipulate their rankings and content to generate clicks
This post was edited on 11/18/22 at 9:58 am
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