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Can we take as many “walk on’s” as we want and offer them NIL deals?
Posted on 2/3/22 at 6:27 pm
Posted on 2/3/22 at 6:27 pm
Is there currently any rule prohibiting this that the NCAA could actually enforce?
Maybe this could be an option for Ajay Allen, McCasgill from ULL, and Kolbe Fields from South Carolina?
Maybe this could be an option for Ajay Allen, McCasgill from ULL, and Kolbe Fields from South Carolina?
This post was edited on 2/3/22 at 6:32 pm
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Posted on 2/3/22 at 6:39 pm to cbree88
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Can we take as many “walk on’s” as we want and offer them NIL deals?
Yes.
This post was edited on 2/3/22 at 6:41 pm
Posted on 2/3/22 at 6:54 pm to cbree88
I like your line of thinking on this
You could add as many players you wanted like that regardless of scholarship limitations
Since college football is minor league now who wants to go to class anyway
You could add as many players you wanted like that regardless of scholarship limitations
Since college football is minor league now who wants to go to class anyway
Posted on 2/3/22 at 6:55 pm to Meauxjeaux
Perfectly legal per NIL regulations.
Posted on 2/3/22 at 7:08 pm to cbree88
Look under your seats. You get to walk on! You get to walk on!
There must be a reason this isn't commonplace.
Most players, I'd guess, would prefer the certainty of a scholarship over the transience of walking on.
The type of nil money and conditional deals these types of players are offered might not be enough to mitigate the risk.
The less risk averse might go for it.
There must be a reason this isn't commonplace.
Most players, I'd guess, would prefer the certainty of a scholarship over the transience of walking on.
The type of nil money and conditional deals these types of players are offered might not be enough to mitigate the risk.
The less risk averse might go for it.
Posted on 2/3/22 at 7:13 pm to WaltTheWizard
quote:Nebraska. Mickey doing work.
Didn’t Allen sign somewhere?
Posted on 2/3/22 at 7:14 pm to cbree88
quote:Completely legal if you can get them to come.
Is there currently any rule prohibiting this that the NCAA could actually enforce?
Maybe this could be an option for Ajay Allen, McCasgill from ULL, and Kolbe Fields from South Carolina?
I brought this up as a perfect solution to help Steen from Vandy to come here.
We have his younger brother walk-on and give him everything (and presumably more) than the value of a scholly. He gets to practice under SEC Coaches and be teammates with his big brother. After a year or two, if he wants to pull up stakes because he hasn't or doesn't think he will get any PT, the practice with SEC Coaches/vs SEC players will be of great value at another school where he can get a scholly/play.
And we also get an All SEC potential RT with 3 yrs starting experience in the Conference.
I'd be shocked if something resembling what I just laid out hasn't been presented to the players and their parents.
Posted on 2/3/22 at 7:59 pm to cbree88
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Is there currently any rule prohibiting this that the NCAA could actually enforce?
I’m pretty sure that if a kid is “recruited” he can’t be a walk on. He would still count towards scholarship limit and signee limit
Posted on 2/3/22 at 8:14 pm to geauxfortwo
I think a recruited player can walk on. It's just that they will count as an initial counter once offered scholarship,
The OP theory seems to be player is never put on scholarship because $$$.
The OP theory seems to be player is never put on scholarship because $$$.
Posted on 2/3/22 at 8:18 pm to cbree88
Yep.
Posted on 2/3/22 at 8:27 pm to Damathe
Pretty sure steen's brother signed with virginia if I'm not mistaken.
Posted on 2/4/22 at 12:34 am to Chalkywhite84
quote:Yep. Shite.
Pretty sure steen's brother signed with virginia if I'm not mistaken.
The kind of school a kid transferring out of Vandy would like.
Not going to win anything there, though.
Posted on 2/4/22 at 7:47 am to geauxfortwo
Nope
Posted on 2/4/22 at 8:23 am to cbree88
quote:
Is there currently any rule prohibiting this that the NCAA could actually enforce?
Maybe this could be an option for Ajay Allen, McCasgill from ULL, and Kolbe Fields from South Carolina?
No, NCAA rosters are capped at 105: 85 Scholarship plus 20 PWO (preferred Walk ons). Now what you are getting at is interesting. BYU had a rich donor that have NIL deals to all the walkons, which can be used in the future to get local Utah kids who play ball to walkon and get $$$ and then the coach can go sign 25 guys on Scholarship. So what this does for them is allow them to get around the 85 cap and in substance have 105 guys on scholarship.
Posted on 2/4/22 at 9:54 am to JKChesterton
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No, NCAA rosters are capped at 105: 85 Scholarship plus 20 PWO (preferred Walk ons).
This is true for preseason fall camp, but once classes start, rosters can be expanded to up to 125. The final number they take on for the season is usually determined by their “title IX” number allowed.
Posted on 2/4/22 at 10:03 am to cbree88
It isn't a scholarship if tuition is covered by the walk-ons' own moxie in setting NIL deals.
(This is the wild farking west.)
I wonder if we can exceed the roster limits if the extra players are scout team players that are only activated for specific games.
(This is the wild farking west.)
I wonder if we can exceed the roster limits if the extra players are scout team players that are only activated for specific games.
This post was edited on 2/4/22 at 10:05 am
Posted on 2/4/22 at 10:05 am to minimal
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Most players, I'd guess, would prefer the certainty of a scholarship over the transience of walking on.
Scholarship is only a 1 year deal just like most NIL deals.
Posted on 2/4/22 at 10:32 am to TGR2012
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This is true for preseason fall camp, but once classes start, rosters can be expanded to up to 125. The final number they take on for the season is usually determined by their “title IX” number allowed.
Ok yes correct. I was only talking about guys who have 'some chance' to hit the field, maybe less <10% but it is not zero. Those players 86 to 105 are PWO's who were good enough to play at FCS school for sure, maybe lower level G5 school, say schools in lower 3rd/Quartile of G5 programs. Those guys 106 to 125 are just guys you add maybe to fill out your scout team squad guys.
Posted on 2/4/22 at 11:03 am to minimal
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There must be a reason this isn't commonplace.
The reason is that it is nearly impossible for the vast majority of programs to find this many kids that they want who also want to be there.
It is damn hard for 99% of programs to convince 30+ kids who are actually legitimate takes to come to the program.
Think about it - we have had multiple top 5 classes recently, and we never once hit the 25-man limit. Now you wanna talk about bringing in 30 or 35? Get to 25 first, then let's talk.
You HAVE enough scholarships to mostly grab all the kids you want. I suppose you could use NIL $ to take flyers on kids that are unlikely to ever see the field, but that seems like an incredibly inefficient way of using money. I'd rather spend that cash on getting the 25 best guys we can than on bringing in 30 or 35 unexciting guys
This post was edited on 2/4/22 at 11:07 am
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