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247: National Signing Day rankings for LSU's 2023 class

Posted on 2/1/23 at 11:02 am
Posted by Captain Crown
Member since Jun 2011
50777 posts
Posted on 2/1/23 at 11:02 am
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LSU left the Early Signing Period in December with 25 signees from the high school level. That made the second signing period pretty uneventful with only one prospect, not including transfers, taking an official visit.

The Tigers are not expected to add anyone new today with three-star defensive tackle Jamel Howard expected to sign with Wisconsin. The staff decided to hold the 5-6 open spots it currently has to reach the 85-limit until the second transfer window opens on May 1 and runs through May 15

LSU enters the day with 25 signees in the team recruiting rankings with a class ranked No. 5 on 247Sports and No. 6 on the industry-generated 247Sports Composite. The 11-man transfer class is currently ranked No. 1, giving Brian Kelly and his staff a 36-man haul in 2023 and more to come.
This post was edited on 2/7/23 at 9:00 am
Posted by wadewilson
Member since Sep 2009
36555 posts
Posted on 2/1/23 at 11:18 am to
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The staff decided to hold the 5-6 open spots it currently has to reach the 85-limit until the second transfer window opens on May 1 and runs through May 15

LSU enters the day with 25 signees in the team recruiting rankings with a class ranked No. 5 on 247Sports and No. 6 on the industry-generated 247Sports Composite. The 11-man transfer class is currently ranked No. 1, giving Brian Kelly and his staff a 36-man haul in 2023 and more to come.


36 new additions, and we're not done yet.

This is bananas.

We've lost 3 of our 15 recruits from 2022 along with at least 5 transfers.

So 8 members of the 2022 class are no longer tigers.
Posted by catfish 62
Atlanta
Member since Mar 2010
4912 posts
Posted on 2/1/23 at 12:11 pm to
LSU is probably gonna sign 30+ every year from now on
Posted by wadewilson
Member since Sep 2009
36555 posts
Posted on 2/1/23 at 12:20 pm to
Maybe not. This was a 70 man roster in 2022, so hopefully this class can get us back to 85 and we DON'T have to flip 50% of the roster every year.
Posted by TigerDeacon
West Monroe, LA
Member since Sep 2003
29305 posts
Posted on 2/1/23 at 12:56 pm to
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LSU is probably gonna sign 30+ every year from now on


This will be the norm for all schools that have high ranking high school classes. Most of the kids that leave will be for playing time. Some of them just won't be as good as ranked and others will see better opportunities somewhere else. So you will be constantly having to back fill your roster with fresh players from high school future players and transfers for current weak spots.
Posted by Mickey Goldmill
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2010
23075 posts
Posted on 2/1/23 at 1:05 pm to
If you look at the top 25 classes (HS + Transfers) on 247, the average number of players for each team is 30.76.

13 of them have 30+ players in their class.
Posted by Lsuhoohoo
Member since Sep 2007
94529 posts
Posted on 2/1/23 at 2:21 pm to
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The staff decided to hold the 5-6 open spots it currently has to reach the 85-limit until the second transfer window opens on May 1 and runs through May 15


This seems wise. Never know who might come available after spring battles or what injuries may pop up and need to be filled.
Posted by LifeAquatic
Member since Dec 2019
1789 posts
Posted on 2/1/23 at 3:30 pm to
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LSU is probably gonna sign 30+ every year from now on


The exemption from the 25-man class cap doesn't last forever
Posted by TNTigerman
James Island
Member since Sep 2012
10487 posts
Posted on 2/1/23 at 3:39 pm to
8 players over 400 in 24/7 rankings (most of those in 500-600 range). Saban has two out of Top 300. Kirby has 4.
Posted by da prophet
hammond, la
Member since Sep 2013
2295 posts
Posted on 2/1/23 at 5:12 pm to
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The exemption from the 25-man class cap doesn't last forever

Doesn’t matter. Recruiting is headed for obsolescence with the transfer portal.
Posted by NJLSU
Member since Aug 2022
1512 posts
Posted on 2/1/23 at 5:33 pm to
Furthest thing from the truth…
Posted by Mickey Goldmill
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2010
23075 posts
Posted on 2/1/23 at 5:56 pm to
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The exemption from the 25-man class cap doesn't last forever



Maybe, maybe not. If the NCAA feels like this was a good move, it could become permanent.
Posted by foamperson
Houston
Member since Jan 2015
206 posts
Posted on 2/1/23 at 8:11 pm to
It has to become permanent if they’re going to allow kids to transfer on a whim. If they don’t there’s no way you can refill the rosters and then you have all these kids in the transfer portal that will never find a school. It’s permanent there’s no going back now
Posted by MikeTheTiger71
Member since Dec 2021
2852 posts
Posted on 2/1/23 at 9:23 pm to
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If they don’t there’s no way you can refill the rosters and then you have all these kids in the transfer portal that will never find a school.


Once that happens, the players will stop trying to transfer on a whim. It’s what they need to do to stop the insanity.
Posted by misey94
Hernando, MS
Member since Jan 2007
23327 posts
Posted on 2/2/23 at 12:07 am to
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Once that happens, the players will stop trying to transfer on a whim. It’s what they need to do to stop the insanity.


Expecting 18-22 year olds to do what is in their best self-interest doesn’t always work out well.
Posted by LifeAquatic
Member since Dec 2019
1789 posts
Posted on 2/2/23 at 3:27 pm to
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If the NCAA feels like this was a good move, it could become permanent.



There is 0.0% chance that they make the lack of cap permanent lol.



To the guy who said that they need to make it permanent to account for the crazy number of guys entering the portal: The crazy number of guys entering the portal is precisely why they *wont* make it permanent. Right now the demand for transfers is infinite, because there is no cap on class size; thus, shite tons of guys are jumping into the portal. Once the cap is put back in place, the demand for transfers is going to go WAY down and the flood of guys into the portal will slow considerably.
This post was edited on 2/2/23 at 3:40 pm
Posted by lostinbr
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2017
9367 posts
Posted on 2/6/23 at 9:21 pm to
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The crazy number of guys entering the portal is precisely why they *wont* make it permanent. Right now the demand for transfers is infinite, because there is no cap on class size; thus, shite tons of guys are jumping into the portal. Once the cap is put back in place, the demand for transfers is going to go WAY down and the flood of guys into the portal will slow considerably.

This is a bit of a chicken vs. egg argument, no?

What really kicked the portal into overdrive was immediate transfer eligibility. The original signing limit waiver (the replacement of up to 7 transfers/early entrants in the last cycle) was in response to the number of guys entering the portal - at least as I remember it. This, despite the fact that every player on a roster in 2020 got an extra year of eligibility which theoretically should have reduced the number of signees that teams needed.

Then you have the NIL factor as well.

I would agree that the unlimited demand, as you put it, probably exacerbates things. At least it would in a rational market (jury’s still out on that though, IMO). And I think ultimately the NCAA probably doesn’t stick with a completely uncapped system. But I don’t think it’s 100%, and I don’t think they go back to a 25/year “hard” cap either.

Ultimately I don’t think anything short of either A) eliminating the immediate transfer eligibility, or B) going back to the hard 25 cap, will make THAT much difference in the transfer numbers.
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