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re: Wife wants to scrape off and refinish textured ceilings
Posted on 11/21/19 at 2:44 pm to SirWinston
Posted on 11/21/19 at 2:44 pm to SirWinston
1/4 in drywall and cover it up if you want it smooth
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Posted on 11/21/19 at 3:06 pm to NASA_ISS_Tiger
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I don't know that I'd see that in a textured ceiling...maybe...maybe not.
That is generally why textured ceiling came into vogue, especially those hideous popcorn ceilings. They hide so-so workmanship really well.
I've stripped off popcorn ceilings in my time and almost always it will involve a lot of refloating seams, nail/screw heads etc. That stuff allowed the finishers to not do as good a job as needed for a smooth finished surface.
Posted on 11/21/19 at 3:37 pm to gumbo2176
thats why the stomped knockdown texture is awesome. It still hides the imperfections, and it also taxes a gloss paint so the lighting is better.
Posted on 11/21/19 at 3:59 pm to diat150
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thats why the stomped knockdown texture is awesome. It still hides the imperfections, and it also taxes a gloss paint so the lighting is better.
I like that look too. I remember when many ceilings were the repeat swirl pattern put in with a stiff bristled brush moved in a circular pattern and repeated across the whole ceiling.
Posted on 11/21/19 at 6:22 pm to SirWinston
When is your FIL going back to his homeland? 
Posted on 11/21/19 at 7:23 pm to Cracker
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1/4 in drywall and cover it up if you want it smooth
If you install new drywall, you have to float the ceiling to the walls which means the walls have to be painted also. If the ceiling has crown molding, that has to be removed prior to new drywall being installed.
Posted on 11/21/19 at 7:37 pm to SirWinston
Who is the man of the house your FIL or you? Sounds like your constantly being cucked by him. Stand up for yourself good god. Keep the textured ceiling.
Posted on 11/21/19 at 7:59 pm to SirWinston
quote:would it possibly look like this
with some weed whacker looking orbital scraper contraption
Posted on 11/21/19 at 8:19 pm to wickowick
Deal with it you have a mess in your hands either way
Posted on 11/22/19 at 6:05 am to PSU2LSU
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If you don't want to bother with scraping or if it contains abestos you can just buy 1/4 drywall and hang and finish that over the current textured ceiling.
This is what I would do.
Less the half the work, and mess doing it this way. Posted on 11/22/19 at 7:07 am to SirWinston
When we remodeled our house we had this finish on the ceilings. The Sheetrock guy just used mud to smooth it out, he didn’t remove anything. Came out perfect.
Posted on 11/22/19 at 12:15 pm to SirWinston
if you scrape it off it will damage the surface under it so the whole thing will have to be floated and sanded smooth.
the reason is they wet it to soften it and that also softens the paper skin of the sheetrock so it tears and peels in spots that need repair after
best way is 2 choices:
1 - simply put a skim coat of mud over it and sand smooth then repaint
2 - just sand it smooth, skim coat with mud, re-sand smooth and paint
the reason is they wet it to soften it and that also softens the paper skin of the sheetrock so it tears and peels in spots that need repair after
best way is 2 choices:
1 - simply put a skim coat of mud over it and sand smooth then repaint
2 - just sand it smooth, skim coat with mud, re-sand smooth and paint
Posted on 11/22/19 at 1:28 pm to keakar
Don't try to scrap that off. Just apply a fresh coat of mud then spray texture. Also, you can roll the mud on which will make it easier.
Posted on 11/22/19 at 2:07 pm to SirWinston
Ours (built in 1963) had about that same texture.
My drywall guy (who is fantastic) simply skim coated everything. It looks perfect, and we were upgrading (adding) lights to areas and he was able to float those areas at the same time.
Really easy. And there was some dust but he uses a sander that has a vacuum attached that caught most of the dust. We were not living there at the time and he covered all the AC registers\returns and turned off the unit while he was sanding. That keeps the dust from getting into your duck work.
Would do again 100%.
My drywall guy (who is fantastic) simply skim coated everything. It looks perfect, and we were upgrading (adding) lights to areas and he was able to float those areas at the same time.
Really easy. And there was some dust but he uses a sander that has a vacuum attached that caught most of the dust. We were not living there at the time and he covered all the AC registers\returns and turned off the unit while he was sanding. That keeps the dust from getting into your duck work.
Would do again 100%.
Posted on 11/22/19 at 5:32 pm to SirWinston
Being painted makes a major difference because you can no longer simply wet out texture with warm water and scrape off with ease. The effort is probably along the lines of being squared.
There's also the unknown of what's lurking beneath the surface. If the ceiling wasn't primed first and just sprayed (on raw SR) this is also going to result in a bad subsurface. And like many have said before, if it wasn't finished before for painting, it's going to have to be done now.
3 options I've tried skim coating, sanding with a vacuum sander, and throwing up new 1/4". They all work. The 1/4" route was chosen because the ceiling was also wavy and we were also going to put up crown molding from the start. eta: the sanded method still requires a thin skim coat.
If you haven't refinished SR before this can be quite the task.
There's also the unknown of what's lurking beneath the surface. If the ceiling wasn't primed first and just sprayed (on raw SR) this is also going to result in a bad subsurface. And like many have said before, if it wasn't finished before for painting, it's going to have to be done now.
3 options I've tried skim coating, sanding with a vacuum sander, and throwing up new 1/4". They all work. The 1/4" route was chosen because the ceiling was also wavy and we were also going to put up crown molding from the start. eta: the sanded method still requires a thin skim coat.
If you haven't refinished SR before this can be quite the task.
This post was edited on 11/22/19 at 5:36 pm
Posted on 11/24/19 at 7:51 pm to awestruck
One thing I’ll add to the conversation in case OP decides to skim over that knock down is that you should prime the painted surfaces with BIN primer first. Mud can sometimes have adhesion and bubbling issues when applied directly over a painted surface. The primer helps with this. BIN is a shellac based primer, so it will apply over oil or latex paint with no issue. Be warned though, it’s strong smelling, so ventilation is in order.
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