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Toilet wobbly after repair

Posted on 6/2/23 at 8:20 am
Posted by Jesterea
Member since Nov 2011
1213 posts
Posted on 6/2/23 at 8:20 am
Toilet was leaking from the bottom, so I figured it was the ring. Well, I replaced it and after getting the bolts down, it’s rocking side to side.

Is this an uneven floor issue? Am I going to need to pull it off and put another ring on? Or could I put a few shims to level it out?
Posted by ItzMe1972
Member since Dec 2013
12637 posts
Posted on 6/2/23 at 8:29 am to
Was it rocking before the repair?

Did you see any shims when you replaced the seal?
Posted by Jesterea
Member since Nov 2011
1213 posts
Posted on 6/2/23 at 8:32 am to
There was caulk to one side and a tiny piece of plastic, so I’m guessing that’s it. Though the toilet was rocking before the repair.
Posted by Weekend Warrior79
Member since Aug 2014
21709 posts
Posted on 6/2/23 at 8:56 am to
Sounds like an uneven floor and the previous installer used the plastic shim and caulk to hold in place.

I would recheck to make sure the bolts are secure, and shim and caulk the shite out of it. As long as you are certain the new ring is properly in place.
Posted by ItzMe1972
Member since Dec 2013
12637 posts
Posted on 6/2/23 at 10:07 am to
Just be careful about over tightening the bolts as you could crack the bowl.

I would probably uninstall it, remove the seal/bolts and see if it fits properly with the floor.

If it doesn’t, then shim caulk.
Posted by LSUDad
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Member since May 2004
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Posted on 6/2/23 at 10:13 am to
Slide a penny under it, once you fix the wobble. Use a Dap bathroom caulk, the one you wipe clean with a wet towel.
Posted by LEASTBAY
Member since Aug 2007
16555 posts
Posted on 6/2/23 at 10:51 am to
You can get a pack of plastic shims for pretty cheap. Would try those first.
Posted by BilbeauTBaggins
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Member since May 2021
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Posted on 6/2/23 at 11:12 am to
If you didn't do anything to your floor during all this, it's not your floor. Toilet could either be misaligned or there was previously some type of shim underneath that you had that got removed.

Either way, just get some plastic toilet shims and you'll be good.
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Posted by East Coast Band
Member since Nov 2010
66950 posts
Posted on 6/2/23 at 12:51 pm to
quote:

Use a Dap bathroom caulk,

Any specific type? I have a toilet that is on tile that will wobble. I put some cheap plastic shims under it, but looks stupid.
I guess a penny would help, but how does caulk keep it firm?
Posted by Craw Dawg
Member since Jan 2023
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Posted on 6/2/23 at 2:20 pm to
Posted by 9rocket
Member since Sep 2020
1722 posts
Posted on 6/2/23 at 3:10 pm to
Put the shims where they do the most good, not protruding, then caulk to hide the shims. Just caulk the sides and the front, leaving the back open.
Posted by LSUDad
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Member since May 2004
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Posted on 6/2/23 at 3:15 pm to
quote:

Any specific type? I have a toilet that is on tile that will wobble. I put some cheap plastic shims under it, but looks stupid. I guess a penny would help, but how does caulk keep it firm?


Look up DAP Caulk, they have it in a number of colors. It cleans up with water, once the toilet is level. The caulk gives a clean look. An yes, leave the backside open, this will let you know if the wax ring has failed.
They make a few different wax rings, one is called, Better than Wax!

I’ve seen a house, the former owner did the tile, it was a BS job. My tile guy, made a grout bed, set the toilet in that bed.
This post was edited on 6/3/23 at 1:48 am
Posted by agilitydawg
Member since Aug 2022
198 posts
Posted on 6/2/23 at 10:27 pm to
If you do have to pull the toilet again verify the flange from the floor that stand up the bolts is not cracked.
Posted by LSUDad
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Member since May 2004
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Posted on 6/2/23 at 10:44 pm to
quote:

If you do have to pull the toilet again verify the flange from the floor that stand up the bolts is not cracked

If the flange is cracked, you can repair. Or, they make a spanner flange , can be found at most plumber warehouses.
Posted by BilbeauTBaggins
probably stuck in traffic
Member since May 2021
7669 posts
Posted on 6/2/23 at 11:17 pm to
White caulk
Posted by GRIZZ
Morgan City
Member since Nov 2009
6236 posts
Posted on 6/2/23 at 11:57 pm to
A shim on one side should fix your problem.
Posted by 98eagle
Member since Sep 2020
3171 posts
Posted on 6/3/23 at 12:29 am to
In addition to using a shim, one trick my plumber uses to help avoid leaks from the toilet ring is that he actually places two new wax rings (one on top of the other) before seating the toilet on top of the ring. You get twice the wax and height of the wax to squish down when you place the toilet. I'm not a plumber but it seemed like a good idea when he told me he was doing that. The toilet is seated nice and solid on the extra wax, and no floor leaks.
Posted by jamiegla1
Member since Aug 2016
7942 posts
Posted on 6/3/23 at 12:32 am to
you need shims but dont caulk the whole thing. leave parts of it without caulk. If it leaks, you want the water to run out onto the floor so you can see that its leaking
Posted by TulaneLSU
Member since Aug 2003
Member since Dec 2007
13636 posts
Posted on 6/3/23 at 4:32 am to
Friend,

It sounds most likely like an uneven floor. What does your base look like? We were having a leaky toilet based on a wet spot in the ceiling last year. Our house is quite old.

We called a plumber. Like you, he assumed it was the wax ring, so he replaced it, and caulked around the toilet’s base, charging us $200. The leak persisted.

Mother was upset and was going to call him back, but my thinking was you do not call back a person to finish a job he could not get right the first time. I went to the second floor and took the toilet off its mount. The toilet flange was no longer resting on solid subflooring and was listing. Shims were not going to fix this imbalance. Surely, the plumber saw this uneven situation, but either was too lazy or unimaginative to find a real fix.

Uncertain what to do, I looked in the garage and could find nothing but an old bag of self leveling underlay. After removing the phalange, and prepping the area, I carefully mixed small portions of the underlay in an old Hansen’s snoball cup. I installed in a new phalange, as the old one’s screw hole had cracked, and poured the wet underlay around it in small batches.

Sure enough, that ended up working. We were most disappointed in the lack of insight and industry in the plumber in whom we placed our trust. Even more disappointing to me was that the dried underlay bonded to the sides of my Hansen’s cup, rendering it useless for drinking. Mother says that I am in charge of our plumbing problems from now.

Yours,
TulaneLSU
This post was edited on 6/3/23 at 4:36 am
Posted by trident
Member since Jul 2007
4862 posts
Posted on 6/3/23 at 8:46 am to
Use 2 wax rings and then caulk after tightening the bolts. Will 100% work
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