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Pouring concrete AC Pads

Posted on 10/4/22 at 1:40 pm
Posted by Chad504boy
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Member since Feb 2005
166135 posts
Posted on 10/4/22 at 1:40 pm
How difficult is it to pour new concrete ac pads to replace the plastic crap while trying to keep the house connected to the outside units somehow still?
Posted by Geauxld Finger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2005
31676 posts
Posted on 10/4/22 at 1:54 pm to
4 boards, quick Crete, a little mesh wiring, and a leveling trowel.

Should be all you need. Oh and the ability to reconnect the ac unit you unhooked
Posted by Hermit Crab
Under the Sea
Member since Nov 2008
7162 posts
Posted on 10/4/22 at 1:55 pm to
you want to do it without unhooking the unit? you would probably have to lift it up with some jacks and do all your work underneath it. I doubt there is enough slack in the lines to move it to the side.
Posted by Chad504boy
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Member since Feb 2005
166135 posts
Posted on 10/4/22 at 2:25 pm to
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you want to do it without unhooking the unit?


would be ideal. maybe if i built up high enough side stones on side to run board underneath unit while work was done underneath. The line slack would be possible issue.
Posted by Duck Island
Member since Aug 2017
112 posts
Posted on 10/4/22 at 2:33 pm to
They make pre-cast concrete pads that you could slip under there without having to block it up very high.
Posted by notsince98
KC, MO
Member since Oct 2012
17954 posts
Posted on 10/4/22 at 3:07 pm to
quote:

They make pre-cast concrete pads that you could slip under there without having to block it up very high.


Precast sounds like the most likely working option.

The modern plastic or fiberglass pads are really good too if the ground is properly prepped.
Posted by Chad504boy
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Member since Feb 2005
166135 posts
Posted on 10/4/22 at 3:13 pm to
quote:

The modern plastic or fiberglass pads are really good too if the ground is properly prepped.



my shite is all leaning and doesn't look good, i guess i could take the time to block and square it up better and get some sand back around them and make it okay ish again.
Posted by FishinTygah84
LA
Member since Dec 2013
1976 posts
Posted on 10/4/22 at 3:29 pm to
man... this is super risky. You bend that copper refrigerant line and you're effed
Posted by Clames
Member since Oct 2010
16538 posts
Posted on 10/4/22 at 3:36 pm to
quote:

How difficult is it to pour new concrete ac pads to replace the plastic crap while trying to keep the house connected to the outside units somehow still?



A nightmare unless your outside unit is a mini-split with flex lines. Anything is possible, but it would take some creativity with a hoist or jacks and some framing. I think it would be much easier and safer to slide a new composite pad than trying to pour concrete.
Posted by Sheepdog1833
Member since Feb 2019
685 posts
Posted on 10/4/22 at 5:17 pm to
We usually build an A frame with a pulley system and some rope.
We do it while the unit is still connected and never have bent a copper line.

But if you aren’t confident with knots and such, I’d be hesitant to attempt.
Posted by Spankum
Miss-sippi
Member since Jan 2007
55976 posts
Posted on 10/4/22 at 9:49 pm to
Man, I wouldn’t attempt that. Seems like you would be just asking for a leak or kinked tubing.
Posted by djangochained
Gardere
Member since Jul 2013
19054 posts
Posted on 10/5/22 at 10:50 am to
These units can’t weigh that much?

I like the a frame idea
Posted by Chad504boy
4 posts
Member since Feb 2005
166135 posts
Posted on 10/5/22 at 1:46 pm to
quote:

I like the a frame idea



meh, just a pain in the arse if you're trying to do 3 units at once.

might just save this for winter time and disconnect them for a day or two to have someone pour the 3 slabs at once.
Posted by UPGDude
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2021
569 posts
Posted on 10/5/22 at 4:58 pm to
That’s what I did. Waited for it to cool off, pumped the refrigerant in the compressor, cut both lines loose, and took it out of the way. I actually bought bags of concrete and it took lots more than I estimated. So much for my future in foundation pouring.

Anyway after the slab dried for a day, I placed the condensing unit back, changed the r/d, brazed it back together, pulled a vacuum, and released the refrig. Trimmed it up and it’s been humming along for 8 years.
Posted by CrawDude
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2019
5264 posts
Posted on 10/6/22 at 8:56 am to
quote:

That’s what I did. Waited for it to cool off, pumped the refrigerant in the compressor, cut both lines loose, and took it out of the way. I actually bought bags of concrete and it took lots more than I estimated. So much for my future in foundation pouring. Anyway after the slab dried for a day, I placed the condensing unit back, changed the r/d, brazed it back together, pulled a vacuum, and released the refrig. Trimmed it up and it’s been humming along for 8 years.

That in itself would cost a pretty penny to do for 3 units, much less 1, excluding pouring the new slabs, but it’s what one would have to do if there is insufficient slack in the refrigerant lines to raise the condensing unit.

Seems like there would only be enough slack if the refrigerant lines are on the outside of the exterior wall. Many, maybe most, including mine, are run through the exterior wall and through the wall cavity and have little or no slack in the refrigerant lines to prevent kinking if they were raised.
Posted by UPGDude
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2021
569 posts
Posted on 10/6/22 at 6:24 pm to
quote:

Seems like there would only be enough slack if the refrigerant lines are on the outside of the exterior wall. Many, maybe most, including mine, are run through the exterior wall and through the wall cavity and have little or no slack in the refrigerant lines to prevent kinking if they were raised.



That's the way my house is run; through the brick wall into the wall cavity. I have no slack in my lines. If I tried to move them more than a few inches, it would have kinked the liquid line. Since I just had 1 unit it was worth it to me.
Posted by tiggerfan02 2021
HSV
Member since Jan 2021
2871 posts
Posted on 10/6/22 at 10:31 pm to
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man... this is super risky. You bend that copper refrigerant line and you're effed



More likely to crack a solder joint.
Either way, it does not end well.
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