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Possible A/C issues?

Posted on 7/31/23 at 7:34 am
Posted by Crescent Connection
Lafayette/Nola
Member since Jun 2008
2024 posts
Posted on 7/31/23 at 7:34 am
Just moved into a 2500 sq ft home built last year by a reputable builder. Have an Amana 4 ton A/C unit. Had it serviced the first week we moved in because I thought it was not cooling properly. Everything checked out fine.

I know it's been hot as balls, but my house was still 75F at 11pm last night (it was set to cool to 74F until 8pm, then 69F from 8pm-6am), and finally cooled to 69F when I woke up at 5:30am today. We have some cheap window shades from Lowes, but have proper window treatments coming in sometime in August. House faces the south, with the sun setting where the condenser is, but the sun is partially blocked by our neighbor's house. We do not have any trees around our house.

Is everyone else's units cooling below 74F during the day? Should the house be equipped with a 5 ton unit?
Posted by lsujunky
Down By The River
Member since Jun 2011
2263 posts
Posted on 7/31/23 at 7:48 am to
Here's a chart you can kind of use for reference. But I know ceiling height and the windows and doors I put in my house was used by my ac guy to do the calculation.



Posted by ItzMe1972
Member since Dec 2013
9801 posts
Posted on 7/31/23 at 7:48 am to
You're probably okay. It's hot as hell.

My main unit is performing much like yours.
Posted by jmon
Mandeville, LA
Member since Oct 2010
8415 posts
Posted on 7/31/23 at 8:03 am to
Not sure if your unit is variable speed, two stage, etc?

Try decreasing your temp to 72° or 73° around 6PM. I notice that my 5 speed unit when moving air at a very low speed will actually pump warmer air through the ducts as the residual heat in the attic from a long, hot day heats the air in the ductwork and dumps warmer air in the house. If you decrease the temp a couple degrees earlier in the evening, you may find cooler temps earlier in the late evening.

Do you also have a humidity setting on your thermo? If set too high that can affect interior air temp feel, as well.
Posted by WhiskeyThrottle
Weatherford Tx
Member since Nov 2017
5317 posts
Posted on 7/31/23 at 9:04 am to
4 Ton seems small for a 2500 sq ft house. My house is about the same size and my 5 ton unit keeps up but it works its arse off to do so. My house is at 74 during the day then 71 at night. Haven't had any issues keeping it where it's set.
Posted by Hermit Crab
Under the Sea
Member since Nov 2008
7167 posts
Posted on 7/31/23 at 9:46 am to
had a 4 ton unit in a 2500 sf house in Houston that couldn't keep up at all. it was old so we replaced with a 2 stage 5 ton unit. I think I could keep my house at 60 during the day with this thing now.
Posted by STATigerFan
St. Amant, LA
Member since Sep 2019
123 posts
Posted on 7/31/23 at 10:44 am to
I have a 2200 sqft house with tall ceilings and I have a 5 ton. We had it replaced in 2021 with a 17 seer 2 stage unit. I think it was a 13 seer 5 ton before. But my A/C has never had trouble cooling. Right now it runs about 16 hours a day on average. It’s set on 72 in the day time and 68 at night. I’m not sure how long it ran on the old single stage unit, but it would reach the thermostat set point and shut off during the day no matter how hot it was. I know it’s hot, and plenty of people say their HVAC runs all day and some say it doesn’t even reach the set point but with a new home and/or a new A/C I would not be satisfied if my unit didn’t cool properly.
Posted by Zappas Stache
Utility Muffin Research Kitchen
Member since Apr 2009
38690 posts
Posted on 7/31/23 at 11:24 am to
quote:

Is everyone else's units cooling below 74F during the day?


I would freeze my arse off in your house
Posted by Jones
Member since Oct 2005
90514 posts
Posted on 7/31/23 at 11:46 am to
4 tons I don't think is enough for 2500ft.

Hvac guy said the general rule here is once it's above 92, to get 20 degrees cooler in the house, the unit will basically run nonstop.

I have plenty of ac and we do 74 or 75 during the day right now and was doing 68 at night.

4 tons I would imagine is underpowered. My old home was 1800 ft and we had 5 tons. It seemed about right
Posted by Hamma1122
Member since Sep 2016
19822 posts
Posted on 7/31/23 at 11:57 am to
Undersized unit
Posted by CrawDude
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2019
5267 posts
Posted on 7/31/23 at 1:36 pm to
New construction - it’s very likely not under-sized according to manual J HVAC sizing criteria. Outside design criteria for New Orleans is 93 F, and manual J will size tonnage based on 93 F and maintaining a set point temperature of 75 F. When temperatures outside exceeds 93 F for many hours in the day, which of course is the current case, a properly sized unit based on manual J design criteria will have difficulty maintaining a set point temperature of 75 F during the afternoon and late evening, much less a lower temperatures.

Certainly shades should help as windows are a major source of heat infiltration in summer and loss in winter. Air sealing the attic from the conditioned area below, more attic insulation than the minimum R-30 required by building code - maybe your builder did that - but if not those are things you can consider to improve home comfort for down the road to help mitigate temperature extremes. Of course plant some trees but that won’t help you out for 15 to 20 years.

I have 4 ton unit with 2500 sq ft (1993 build) - BR - and temperature creeps up a couple degrees above my set point of 74 F for 2 or 3 hours in late afternoon when outside temperature is in the high 90s/low 100s. My HVAC is new, installed in Feb, it’s properly sized and is operating just as it was designed to do. This winter though I’ll do some attic sealing and add additional attic insulation.
Posted by EF Hutton
Member since Jan 2018
2366 posts
Posted on 7/31/23 at 2:04 pm to
quote:

4 Ton seems small for a 2500 sq ft house.


Using 550, it is. We don’t know if the builder’s ac guy ran a heat load ?
You could turn that house one compass direction and get a different heat load, on paper.

Even using 600, it comes in at 4.1
I bet it is u/s.

I have been running loads since 2007.
Often compared results to the rule of thumb methods. Not usually that far off.

I have 4 ton 2 stage heat pump, 1785 sq ft cooling. It has humidity control on my inside unit.

It will pull down in the 60’s if i want, 4 pm 99 deg outside, and keep humidity where i want . Amazing those 2 stages with humidity feature

This post was edited on 7/31/23 at 2:15 pm
Posted by keakar
Member since Jan 2017
30025 posts
Posted on 7/31/23 at 6:20 pm to
quote:

Possible A/C issues?
Just moved into a 2500 sq ft home built last year by a reputable builder. Have an Amana 4 ton A/C unit.


rule of thumb is 500 sq ft per ton of a/c

you have 2500 = a 5 ton a/c system is needed

a 4 ton can work if everything is extra insulated and sealed, but thats not possible in the real world unless you have concrete filled reinforced Styrofoam block house.

as you saw in the chart someone posted, its barely marginable for a 4 ton unit for your house.

that being said, i dont think you can go back on the builder about this, yes he screwed you, but since he did just barely reach the line of minimum cooling for that sq footage. sad thing is, had he just upgraded to a 5 ton then, it was about a $500 difference, now its a huge cost to replace the outdoor unit and indoor coil. in most cases, the 4 ton heater can still be reused for the 5 ton coil.

if its struggling now, think about when the door gets opened 20 times a day and if you have a family gathering no one will be cool. im sure they can upgrade it to a 5 ton for right about or just under $3k
This post was edited on 7/31/23 at 6:28 pm
Posted by DVinBR
Member since Jan 2013
12984 posts
Posted on 7/31/23 at 11:56 pm to
i have a 4 ton unit that was installed when my house was built in 2017 (point is more efficient than old houses), my house is 1600sqft and I have been having to run it like the bitch it is, can't really get the house lower than 75F while it's 100F outside, and since there is so much heat held by the structure after the sun sets and the outside temps come down it can't really pull the indoor temp down to 72F until like 9-10pm
Posted by Geauxld Finger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2005
31727 posts
Posted on 8/1/23 at 5:34 am to
What size is your return air vent? Most houses return air is woefully undersized
Posted by Crescent Connection
Lafayette/Nola
Member since Jun 2008
2024 posts
Posted on 8/1/23 at 6:25 am to
quote:

What size is your return air vent
24x36
Posted by baldona
Florida
Member since Feb 2016
20456 posts
Posted on 8/1/23 at 6:49 am to
quote:

Try decreasing your temp to 72° or 73° around 6PM


If his house is set at 74 and can’t get below 75 then setting it lower almost definitely won’t do anything, but it’s worth a try to see if it’s hitting 74 briefly and stopping.

Yes OP sounds like your unit is just barely sized too small. I’m not sure if it’s 75 at 6pm why it’s taking it until 11 to get cooler though, it should be dropping pretty quickly around 8pm once the heat load drops?

I would check your attic insulation that would be the cheapest option, I’d bet they went cheap on the insulation also but I could be wrong.
Posted by Taffeta
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Dec 2012
924 posts
Posted on 8/1/23 at 9:00 am to
Sounds like I am having similar issues as many others

Bought house 2 years ago..built in 1994, 3400 sq ft with a 2.5 ton and 3.5 ton unit.

The 3.5 ton unit cools the larger half of the house, but is really struggling this summer. I do remember it struggled last summer also. Main AC can't keep up and is about 76-77 degrees by 6pm. If we turn on the stove or oven, we are at 80 degrees. I bought a 8,000 BTU portable AC yesterday and put in the kitchen. It will now hold 74-75 degrees.

Insulation looks to be original in the house and about 6-8" of it. Think I am going to pay a company this winter to suck all the insulation out, then I will go up there and seal off all the electrical and plumbing penetrations, then spray my own insulation in.
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