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New raised garden beds - what type of wood to use?

Posted on 3/17/23 at 9:30 am
Posted by Dingleberry Dan
Member since Mar 2016
13 posts
Posted on 3/17/23 at 9:30 am
Trying to decide what type of wood to use for new raised garden beds in NW LA. They will have ground contact. Information I have come across seems mixed in terms of whether or not pressure treated wood is safe for vegetables/herbs. I'm afraid if I use untreated wood (even cedar or redwood - which is supposedly rot resistant), it will not last very long. Thoughts?
Posted by RaginCajunz
Member since Mar 2009
5359 posts
Posted on 3/17/23 at 9:31 am to
I used composite decking material. I double stacked for depth and cut small pieces to screw from the inside to join them together.
Posted by nated14
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2009
874 posts
Posted on 3/17/23 at 9:36 am to
I went from wood to cinder blocks a few years ago and no issues. I use the holes in the blocks for herbs and garlic. I wish I would’ve done it sooner. Blocks were 1.20 each
Posted by Salmon
On the trails
Member since Feb 2008
83583 posts
Posted on 3/17/23 at 9:38 am to
For wood, it honestly doesn't matter. They will all rot in a few years. Treated, untreated, cedar, etc. I used them all and all of them starting falling apart after a few years.

I finally trashed all of my wood beds and am currently building cinder block beds. 2 pallets were $250 and I'm able to build 4 4x8 beds 24" high.

You could also build corrugated metal bed for pretty cheap that will last longer.
Posted by LSULumberJack
Mandeville
Member since Apr 2009
511 posts
Posted on 3/17/23 at 10:50 am to
I just built a 4'x 8' raised bed with treated 2x10s. Ive read several articles that say treated lumber affecting the plants is a myth, but I guess I'll find out if I die from my tomatoes in a few months.
Posted by Longer Tail Tiger
Member since Dec 2019
185 posts
Posted on 3/17/23 at 10:59 am to
I'd use cinder blocks, if I were choosing the material for a raised garden bed.
Posted by PillageUrVillage
Mordor
Member since Mar 2011
14792 posts
Posted on 3/17/23 at 11:10 am to
quote:

Ive read several articles that say treated lumber affecting the plants is a myth, but I guess I'll find out if I die from my tomatoes in a few months.



Pressure treated wood used to contain arsenic. But it hasn't for 20+ years. Now its mostly just copper azole used to treat lumber.

ETA: I have some raised beds built with 2x10 and 2x12 treated pine still in decent condition after 4 years.
This post was edited on 3/17/23 at 11:11 am
Posted by ABucks11
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2012
1147 posts
Posted on 3/17/23 at 11:18 am to
quote:

I'm afraid if I use untreated wood (even cedar or redwood - which is supposedly rot resistant), it will not last very long.


I used cedar and after 4 years it just looks weathered. It was expensive 4 years ago and probably insane now.
Posted by Philzilla
Member since Nov 2011
1374 posts
Posted on 3/17/23 at 11:54 am to
quote:

I guess I'll find out if I die from my tomatoes in a few months.

You won’t die in a few months, it will be years of pain as cancer slowly eats you from the inside, while simultaneously being irradiated and injected with poison in an attempt to get you a few more months of suffering. At top dollar too.
Posted by RetiredSaintsLsuFan
NW Arkansas
Member since Jun 2020
1580 posts
Posted on 3/17/23 at 12:04 pm to
I used cinder blocks which was cheaper than wood. They will last longer and I plant onions in the block cells.
Posted by PHNBK
Member since Nov 2020
145 posts
Posted on 3/17/23 at 12:40 pm to


I just built new ones this year. I used metal roofing i had so that the soil doesn't come in contact with the treated wood and set them on gravel to hopefully keep the wood drier than on direct ground to last longer. I guess time will tell.

My last ones were made out of treated 2x12's on the ground and only laste 4 years before they rotted.

This post was edited on 3/17/23 at 12:54 pm
Posted by Gauxt
Prairieville
Member since Oct 2013
325 posts
Posted on 3/17/23 at 1:09 pm to
They will last longer and I plant onions in the block cells
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Cinder blocks here also. What all could be planted in the block cells? Thought the blocks might get too hot to support life, also the small dimension.
Posted by CajunSportsman
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2011
133 posts
Posted on 3/17/23 at 1:40 pm to
Use untreated if worried about treated. Cinderblock doesn't look as nice IMHO. In 3-4 years, you can slide in new planks easily as the ground is compacted and you remove the rotted/ing carefully. I hear treated is OK these days tho. Or read this from the Yella Wood peeps YellaWood Raised Beds
Posted by cgrand
HAMMOND
Member since Oct 2009
38815 posts
Posted on 3/17/23 at 1:44 pm to
i use cut logs and/or split firewood.
as it/they rot they add nutrients to the bed, and can be easily replaced
Posted by TigerTatorTots
The Safeshore
Member since Jul 2009
80780 posts
Posted on 3/17/23 at 3:04 pm to
If you must go wood, go cedar. I went Cinderblocks instead and love the decision. As another poster stated, the holes in the cinderblocks house my herbs and various colorful flowers
Posted by BilbeauTBaggins
probably stuck in traffic
Member since May 2021
4421 posts
Posted on 3/17/23 at 3:31 pm to
quote:

I went from wood to cinder blocks a few years ago and no issues


I can see why cinderblocks are a financial and somewhat practical decision, but man, they just don't look as good are a well built wood raised bed.

Anyone with pics of their cinderblock setup? I was looking into building one of these this summer and I would consider the swap to cinderblocks if there is an appealing setup.

EDIT: I went ahead and searched. I can be convinced. These are some solid pics:
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This post was edited on 3/17/23 at 3:37 pm
Posted by Crusty
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2011
2430 posts
Posted on 3/17/23 at 4:16 pm to
quote:

and set them on gravel


You are 100% committed as you will never be able to get all that gravel up should you ever change your mind.
Posted by Dingleberry Dan
Member since Mar 2016
13 posts
Posted on 3/17/23 at 5:54 pm to
I have to admit, I’m most concerned with how the cinder block beds will look. But those pictures look pretty good!
Posted by Dingleberry Dan
Member since Mar 2016
13 posts
Posted on 3/17/23 at 5:57 pm to
Just curious, do you remember the price of your cedar boards when you got them? I need a laugh.
Posted by Loup
Ferriday
Member since Apr 2019
11323 posts
Posted on 3/17/23 at 6:00 pm to
I made a couple with landscape timbers. 6 timbers will make a 4x8 bed that's 6" deep. The oldest is almost 3 years old and there's no visible rot
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