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Posted on 3/31/26 at 6:40 am to
Posted by AyyyBaw
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Posted on 3/31/26 at 6:40 am to
I might take you up on that offer. That’s very generous. I’ve heard great things about Vista White. Have you tried the Honeyquat yet? The Lara description sounds unique. My Big Jim and Suebelle should arrive from Gala this Friday. I’ll post pics when they arrive. They should be decent sized trees for the price. It seems way easier to graft on my potting bench as opposed to in the field - also allows greater control on water, sun and wind until the grafts take if grafted in a pot vs their final place in the ground.

The Malta Black cutting I had for you isn’t looking great. I’m 90% sure that it leafed out before it had enough roots to support the foliage. Lesson learned - don’t introduce too much light before the roots are ready. I started a new cutting for you this morning.
Posted by Tigerlaff
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Posted on 3/31/26 at 6:52 am to
Have not tried the honeyquat yet. It was a very tiny 1g tree when I got it last year. It is easily the most attractive loquat I have I terms of foliage and growth habit.
Posted by cgrand
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Member since Oct 2009
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Posted on 3/31/26 at 7:04 am to
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don’t introduce too much light before the roots are ready.
definitely
I keep my cuttings in almost full shade sometimes for all of the first year.
Posted by TimeOutdoors
LA
Member since Sep 2014
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Posted on 3/31/26 at 9:04 am to
Just wanted to mention that I was able to find some Barbados cherries while I was in Lake Charles last week. I went to the Home Depot and Lowes there with no success but drove across the bridge before class my last day and the Lowes had several of them.

Posted by DickTater
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Posted on 3/31/26 at 1:30 pm to
2 of my 3 that I recently bare rooted stress dropped several leaves..they yellowed, curled, then browned then dropped. Did not go bare though. …keep them moist, but not wet, keep in dappled shade and wait it out. Mine are actually pushing new leaves already!
Posted by Loup
Ferriday
Member since Apr 2019
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Posted on 3/31/26 at 2:21 pm to
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2 of my 3 that I recently bare rooted stress dropped several leaves..they yellowed, curled, then browned then dropped. Did not go bare though. …keep them moist, but not wet, keep in dappled shade and wait it out. Mine are actually pushing new leaves already!


this makes me feel a lot better. I was worried that the pot wasn't draining quickly enough. You can feel some moisture in the soil but it isn't wet/soaked.
Posted by cgrand
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Posted on 3/31/26 at 4:10 pm to
Avocado trees kinda suck. You can look at them wrong and they start wilting. I do like to eat them though
Posted by Tigerlaff
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Posted on 3/31/26 at 5:26 pm to
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Avocado trees kinda suck. You can look at them wrong and they start wilting



Posted by Loup
Ferriday
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Posted on 3/31/26 at 6:10 pm to
I looked at it pretty close when I got home and I think it is putting some new leaves out.


My pink lady guava has buds already! I'm surprised after the beating it took over winter. When it went into the greenhouse it had fruit the size of golf balls on it. All of it dropped off by January.

Posted by TimeOutdoors
LA
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Posted on 3/31/26 at 7:23 pm to
I received a tree while I was out of town that was sent by mistake. I assume it was from Everglades or Lara Lara since I have ordered from both of those. It says Collin’s on the tag. It’s just budding out but I’ll take pictures when the leaves develop. Any idea what this might be?
Posted by Tigerlaff
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Posted on 3/31/26 at 9:10 pm to
Collins is a southern select variety of pawpaw. Could be that.
Posted by Tigerlaff
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Posted on 3/31/26 at 11:03 pm to
Mangos are way farther along this year than they were last year. They were about the size of nickels in mid April 2025.



Posted by Neauxla
New Orleans
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Posted on 4/1/26 at 7:23 am to
Jealous
Posted by DickTater
Geismar
Member since Feb 2013
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Posted on 4/1/26 at 7:40 am to
So my Pickering is still holding a good bit of fruit.
It’s young, I don’t want to sacrifice too much vegetative growth by letting it hold too much fruit.
Lots of posts on the mango FB group in this regard, what to do..many say let it drop naturally?
Thoughts.

I don’t want to let it put too much resources into fruit if should just be removing it. Several are quarter size.

Maybe hold 3-4? All on different leaders ?

I know Pickering is precious and an early barer

Posted by Tigerlaff
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Posted on 4/1/26 at 7:43 am to
I can totally help you with this but need to see photo of the full tree, including pot size and trunk diameter.

A couple of basics first. A very young/small grafted tree may try to hold a lot of fruit, especially a precocious and prolific mango like Pickering. If the tree is too small, the development of the fruit can actually kill the tree. It takes a ton of sugar to make one mango. If they expend too much energy on that they sometimes can't bounce back.

Now, once you get to a certain size, the advice you see on the mango pages really needs to be evaluated from a container growing perspective. Florida in-ground growers will say no fruit for 2-3 years until the tree is nice and strong and one of the reasons they give is that earlier fruiting will stunt the tree. They want big trees and big harvests.

... but for us, stunting the tree a bit can be a good thing. We want small trees that can be protected from cold and bear a good crop. So in my opinion, I think that once a tree is a good 15g size you can let it hold 0-5 fruit depending on cultivar fruit size. For example, a lemon meringue tree could easily hold 5+ tiny mangos at 15g but a Venus or Beverly could not. Once it is a good 25g size (hopefully the next year), I say let it hold as much as it wants after selective thinning.

I try to only have one mango per panicle. More than that can be splitting resources too thinly on a potted tree. How do we determine which mangos to thin and which to leave? A couple of ways. First, mangos that are going to drop anyway will turn light green, then bright yellow somewhere on the skin. Once you see that a fruit is turning yellow, you can pop it off. After the tree has dropped what it wants to drop, there will still probably be too many mangos on a 25g tree. So on each panicle, it is best to select the largest healthiest looking fruit to keep. If all the mangos on a panicle look equal, cull the ones on the far end of the panicle and leave the one closest to the tree. Nutrients do not have to travel as far this way.

So on a 25g size tree, I am shooting for one mango on every panicle for a productive tree that has many panicles like Pickering. On a 45g tree, I am not thinning fruit at all unless there is some other reason to remove them.

Once you decide to let the tree carry all this fruit, you need to fertilize and water accordingly. I would water a potted tree every 2-3 days during fruit development unless it has been raining. You want to back off the water once the fruit are breaking color in June/July as they start to ripen. Ideally no water the week before you harvest. This will improve flavor. During bloom and fruiting, I give the trees zero nitrogen. The only fertilizer I give it is 0-0-22 langbeinite and maybe a couple of liquid feedings of 0-10-10. You should also be doing a foliar feeding spray every month to keep the leaves healthy. If your tree is small and your primary goal is growth instead of fruit, do not withhold nitrogen. Nitrogen is definitely going to discourage bloom and fruit development but you will still get a harvest. At 15g size, I am not withholding nitrogen. At 25g I am withholding.

Here is my Pickering last year 3 months after I up potted from 15g to 25g. It tried to set 20+ fruit and I let it hold 3.

This post was edited on 4/1/26 at 8:22 am
Posted by Tigerlaff
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Posted on 4/1/26 at 7:45 am to
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Jealous

This will be you in 2-3 years. Maybe even sooner.
Posted by 81Tiger
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Posted on 4/1/26 at 8:52 am to
My dwarf lemon is about a foot high and about 3 feet across. Should I do anything to get more vertical growth?

Stake them to grow up, or maybe prune the ends?

Posted by Tigerlaff
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Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 4/1/26 at 9:54 am to
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My dwarf lemon is about a foot high and about 3 feet across. Should I do anything to get more vertical growth?



Yeah. This is one of the reasons I don't like Meyer lemon. They have a crazy random growth habit that does not lend itself to helpful structure.

It looks like you have 3 main branches coming out of the top of the trunk. I would cut each of them about 8-10 inches from the origin point on the trunk and make those my new "trunks" since yours is very short. You can stake each of them at a 60 degree angle from the soil so they are pointed in the right direction. Those three will be scaffolding for new branches to sprout from. If possible, I would cut each right after an inward facing leaf node. That gives you a better chance of getting new branches growing up instead of laterally or down.

When the new branches sprout, remove anything growing in the wrong direction. They are extremely vigorous growers so you should have new branches in no time.
Posted by Tigerlaff
FIGHTING out of the Carencro Sonic
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Posted on 4/1/26 at 11:12 am to
We've got some white sapote set. Hopefully it will hang on to one or two. Young tree.

Posted by 81Tiger
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Posted on 4/1/26 at 11:51 am to
Thanks Laff!
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