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re: Louisiana Tropical Fruit Gardening - Experiences and Updates
Posted on 5/13/26 at 4:55 pm to Neauxla
Posted on 5/13/26 at 4:55 pm to Neauxla
That's the Redland variety which has huge seeds. But yeah white sapote has a lot of seed volume. Probably 30% seed volume.
Don't worry about the mango fruit drop. Long term project and that's natural anyway.
Don't worry about the mango fruit drop. Long term project and that's natural anyway.
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Posted on 5/13/26 at 5:02 pm to wiltznucs
Those are looking good wiltz. Love Haden.
Had Duncan and fruit punch today.
Duncan was exceedingly average for a speciality mango. It was about as good as the very best grocery store mango I've ever had. If you had nothing to compare it to you'd give it an 8/10. But my rating is probably a 4/10. Duncan seeds make excellent root stock so I'll be germinating this one.
This however was a sublime experience. Fruit Punch was in my top 5 last year. It was the best I've had this year. No one should die without eating this. This single mango made the entire purchase price worth it. When it hits it just hits.
Had Duncan and fruit punch today.
Duncan was exceedingly average for a speciality mango. It was about as good as the very best grocery store mango I've ever had. If you had nothing to compare it to you'd give it an 8/10. But my rating is probably a 4/10. Duncan seeds make excellent root stock so I'll be germinating this one.
This however was a sublime experience. Fruit Punch was in my top 5 last year. It was the best I've had this year. No one should die without eating this. This single mango made the entire purchase price worth it. When it hits it just hits.
This post was edited on 5/13/26 at 5:05 pm
Posted on 5/13/26 at 7:42 pm to Tigerlaff
I hope to be in a position to graft some scions into my trees this Fall. Fruit Punch is definitely on my short list.
Posted on 5/13/26 at 8:04 pm to wiltznucs
Had to do another round of thinning on my Pickering. All the fruit had stopped growing. Little tree trying to hold too much. I'm probably overestimating what a tree of this size can hold.
Posted on 5/13/26 at 8:54 pm to Tigerlaff
I’m running into a similar situation. Planted a 25g tree back in early April. 25g is probably a 3-4 year old tree. It was holding fruit when I got it; so I decided to thin out half and let it ride. Not enough; the fruit just isn’t growing. May bite the bullet and wipe it clean or leave just 1-2 this weekend.
Posted on 5/13/26 at 9:31 pm to wiltznucs
It held and ripened 3 excellent fruit last year. But the tree is only about 25% larger than last year (after mandatory safety pruning) and trying to hold 20+. I'll just keep thinning each week until I see progress.
Posted on 5/13/26 at 10:06 pm to Tigerlaff
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only about 25% larger than last year
Remember; it’s a true dwarf mango tree and it’s in a pot. You can’t let what you’ve seen from your guava or carambola be an indication of what to expect from it. 25% is a significant amount of growth for a Pickering IMHO. I probably would let it rip too. This year is messed up. I’m writing it off to a painful learning experience.
Posted on 5/13/26 at 10:33 pm to wiltznucs
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Remember; it’s a true dwarf mango tree and it’s in a pot. You can’t let what you’ve seen from your guava or carambola be an indication of what to expect from it. 25% is a significant amount of growth for a Pickering IMHO. I probably would let it rip too. This year is messed up. I’m writing it off to a painful learning experience.
100%. Wise words. This is a zone pushing thread and I'm all about pushing until it doesn't work. When the fruit stops growing, that's the point where I'm making sacrifices. We need to figure out what is and is not possible.
Posted on 5/14/26 at 6:05 am to Tigerlaff
Photo dump.
I think I need to prune this thing again.
My Arctic Frost Satsuma has really taken off. I planted it last June and it barely grew last year.
This has been my favorite to watch grow. Everything happens so fast.
My wife's Meyer Lemon is coming back. It had gotten too big to put one of the Amazon bags over it during last year's frost so I set up a small greenhouse over it. Two brood lamps didn't save it. Thankfully it's coming back from above the graft.
My Bell's Starfruit has recovered from its tantrum and has started putting out new growth again.
I cut down the panicle on my Pickering Mango a few weeks ago and then removed the fruit as soon as they were pea sized. It immediately started putting out new growth.
The $10 thornless Key Lime rehab project is still going well. I think this is going to end up being a really nice tree. Trying to decide if I should up pot into a 15 gallon now or wait until next year.
I think I need to prune this thing again.
My Arctic Frost Satsuma has really taken off. I planted it last June and it barely grew last year.
This has been my favorite to watch grow. Everything happens so fast.
My wife's Meyer Lemon is coming back. It had gotten too big to put one of the Amazon bags over it during last year's frost so I set up a small greenhouse over it. Two brood lamps didn't save it. Thankfully it's coming back from above the graft.
My Bell's Starfruit has recovered from its tantrum and has started putting out new growth again.
I cut down the panicle on my Pickering Mango a few weeks ago and then removed the fruit as soon as they were pea sized. It immediately started putting out new growth.
The $10 thornless Key Lime rehab project is still going well. I think this is going to end up being a really nice tree. Trying to decide if I should up pot into a 15 gallon now or wait until next year.
Posted on 5/14/26 at 6:50 am to Loup
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My Arctic Frost Satsuma has really taken off. I planted it last June and it barely grew last year.
First year it sleeps. Second year it creeps. Third year it leaps. Every single citrus I've ever planted in the ground did absolutely nothing the first season. That whole first year is just root establishment.
All the rest of that stuff looks great and healthy. I'm really excited to see how the Bell carambola performs.
This post was edited on 5/14/26 at 10:13 am
Posted on 5/14/26 at 10:49 am to Tigerlaff
Got the largest Musa Truly Tiny pup separated from the mother plant. Mother plant is very close to fruiting. This pup will be the next generation. I highly recommend Truly Tiny if you want to grow in a pot. They never get taller than 3-4 feet and can produce racks weighing 10lbs or more. You can keep the pups and produce indefinitely without all the freeze protection efforts needed for in ground trees.
My Silas Wood sapodilla is finally setting fruit. Got it as a small 3g tree 18 months ago. If you want early and prolific production from a dwarf sapodilla, Silas Wood is the one. Unfortunately I won't harvest any until next spring. Sapodillas take forever to ripen but eventually they become somewhat everbearing due to the constant flowering.
My Silas Wood sapodilla is finally setting fruit. Got it as a small 3g tree 18 months ago. If you want early and prolific production from a dwarf sapodilla, Silas Wood is the one. Unfortunately I won't harvest any until next spring. Sapodillas take forever to ripen but eventually they become somewhat everbearing due to the constant flowering.
Posted on 5/14/26 at 4:28 pm to Tigerlaff
KSU Benson and KSU Atwood pawpaws arrived looking fantastic from Bob Wells Nursery in Texas. 14 inch tree pots so the taproots are in great shape. When they arrive this healthy they go straight in the ground.
Posted on 5/15/26 at 2:49 pm to Tigerlaff
Potomac and Benson
Going in the patch
Speaking of pawpaws, I was up at my parents place last weekend in NW Arkansas and we went trout fishing below the beaver dam on the white river. At the little parking area at one of the access points there was the thickest patch of young pawpaws I’ve ever seen…they don’t seem to mind growing in close quarters to their neighbors. I clipped off a cutting to take home but I lost it in the Bentonville airport. If anyone finds it let me know
Posted on 5/15/26 at 3:23 pm to cgrand
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there was the thickest patch of young pawpaws I’ve ever seen…they don’t seem to mind growing in close quarters to their neighbors
They root sucker. All those pawpaw patches are genetically identical and can't pollinate themselves.
Posted on 5/16/26 at 8:25 am to Tigerlaff
How would i know if i needed to just cull the 2 mangos I let my Pickering hold. They still seem small, compared to the fact that they’re harvesting in Florida? But idk when those fruit start.
If I do pull them should I fertilize with some nitrogen to help push foliage since no fruit ?
If I do pull them should I fertilize with some nitrogen to help push foliage since no fruit ?
Posted on 5/16/26 at 10:30 am to Tigerlaff
so now I have 5 seedlings all leafed out and the two new grafted trees (Potomac and Benson). I’m looking at scion wood for the winter and I see suggestions of shenandoah, Davis and sunflower for LA growing.
Would you agree with that?
that would give me seven trees and a minimum of 5 different cultivars. The spot is a very old bed that has deep rich soil and gets 1/2 day shade right now. As they get bigger I could give it more sun by taking down a few young oaks if needed
Would you agree with that?
that would give me seven trees and a minimum of 5 different cultivars. The spot is a very old bed that has deep rich soil and gets 1/2 day shade right now. As they get bigger I could give it more sun by taking down a few young oaks if needed
Posted on 5/16/26 at 12:17 pm to DickTater
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How would i know if i needed to just cull the 2 mangos I let my Pickering hold. They still seem small, compared to the fact that they’re harvesting in Florida? But idk when those fruit start.
If I do pull them should I fertilize with some nitrogen to help push foliage since no fruit ?
If they aren't increasing in size it means the tree is struggling to feed them. Also, I try to never allow more than one mango per panicle since they have to split resources.
If I were you, I would cut the one that branches off to the side and leave the fruit that is on the "main line." If the tree is mature enough, it will ripen way late in July or August. Don't worry about Florida mango season. Different climates means different harvests.
Posted on 5/16/26 at 12:18 pm to cgrand
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I’m looking at scion wood for the winter and I see suggestions of shenandoah, Davis and sunflower for LA growing.
Would you agree with that?
Yes. Let me repost the FB post from an experienced grower in Houston.
That's 9b so any of that should work great for us. Afternoon shade is a great idea too.
Sunflower, mango, Collins, Susquehanna, Shenandoah, prima 1216, and tropical treat are known to do well with hot weather.
My current list is as follows:
Sunflower
Mango
Susquehanna
Shenandoah
KSU Atwood
KSU Benson
Collins seedling
Avery Island wild seedling
This post was edited on 5/16/26 at 12:31 pm
Posted on 5/16/26 at 9:33 pm to Tigerlaff
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Don't worry about Florida mango season. Different climates means different harvests
This… Even within Florida and in the same zone it can be wildly different. I’m in Tampa Bay Zone 10a. The same as West Palm Beach. Their early season mangoes are already producing and we’re still likely two weeks away.
Posted on 5/17/26 at 5:24 am to cgrand
Man you guys are busy. Jeez. 
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