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Got around to potting my new mangos and kari starfruit up yesterday.

Starfruit got a a full rootball wash, was much more established.

Mangos, not to my surprise had obviously just been recently upsized to the 3g pots. Plan was to leave 50% of rootball, but when I dumped it out I was left with a one gallon or smaller root mass. Kind of annoying to pay for dirt. The cecilove also dropped the new light yellow leaves it had just flushed due to shipping stress and rubbing in the box I imagine.

Anyways they’re in a good mix, good pots and in the shade to recover for a week or so!
50 gallons of mix!

Got a 45lb sack of pumice from pumice store.com that amounted to 10 gal of rock







Avocados doing fantastic
Stack them behind the guava and mangos for afternoon shade

Laff what do you have in the 45gal pots? Hard to tell

Ruby sup guava is wildly thirsty in this heat, wants water daily! Leaves go from perky to sad back to plump!
They’re in a 3 gal pot, about 24” right now
Definitely just barely year old trees.



Nice!
Just extra pumice on top the seedling?

I got some ataulfo from Costco to scratch my itch,, going to plant the seeds just to have some fun and try grafting on them.

Got my new cecilove, and lil gem in. Look pretty good, 2 flushes above the graft, genuine Zill yellow nursery tags.

Planning to go into Cajun top pot mix in a 15 gal pot.
Would you completely bare root them, or just shoot for maybe 50% reduction in the terrible soil? Worried if I go too aggressive on these in this heat (even after shady recovery) they will get more shock and reduce vigor for a while…thoughts ?
My lone Pickering. Finally cut into it after sitting a few days to ripen. Obviously something was going on with it. Seed pod also didn’t develop.

Flavor wise, very encouraging. The little bit of ripe in the center was great. I could definitely taste the coconut!
Looking forward to better years!



re: Does Celsius Xtra work well?

Posted by DickTater on 6/22/26 at 8:37 am to
I’ll add fuel to the spectacle fire. It’s worth every penny. I have 25k of turf, and my weed pressure has dropped to nearly zero. I was a long time prodiamine user. Now I do prodiamine early spring, spectacle late spring, and again in early fall.
Poa is gone, spurge is gone, doveweed is almost gone.
I think just need another yearly cycle to squash it.

Buy a proper electric sprayer, and good pre em tip (coarse droplet) and get it down
So when you’re talking about the cecilove and getting it to have good structure, it put out 2 shoots. You want 3-4 in opposing direction, would you just cut those new growth all the way back to growth whorl and hope it pushes again how you want it ?

If I cut mango mid stem, between the growth rings, will it push out from there new multi stems or is that only at growth rings?



Also, I have a Pickering budwood stick (just pruned, in fridge) available for free if anyone is nearby. Geismar
Thanks for your thoughtful reply.

So with our weather we inevitably will get temps that likely stimulate flowering in fall. Is that when you’re allowing it to set fruit? Then holding on to the fruit all winter and spring? Or are you allowing BBs to form then picking off and only wanting it to hold the fruit in the spring flush ?
Trimmed up my Pickering and got it staked a bit, it has good structure, but the younger branches haven’t lignified enough to hold the canopy upright. In that process my lone mango came off barely touching it. Guess it was time! Small but wasn’t expecting much this year.

DH pushing also, not as vigorous, I think it had some fungal issues early season, but looking better now.

Plan to push growth through this season then hopefully it gets to a good size.
I know mangos don’t need much nitrogen, but should I add anything other than osmoocote? 15 gal pots. How long can I keep these going, kind of hoped another year, or is that optimistic?



So the utopia trees restock was a bust. They didn’t have any cecilove in stock and also wanted $115 for a 3 gal.

Chat gpt convinced me to have a well rounded flavor profile in 4 trees I needed a cecilove and a lil gem. This was with the constraints of container growing, and good fungal tolerance due to our climate.

This is what it said. Do you agree ?

?? Pickering ? Coconut base
??? Dwarf Hawaiian ? Spice/resin
?? Lil Gem ? Pure sugar anchor
?? Ceci Love ? Complex dessert mango

Found a seller on Etsy (exoticpalmsource)with current recent feedback selling 3g trees for $80. Messaged him about a ceci and he has them both even though ceci wasn’t listed. So got 2 more coming. Lil Gem , and cecilove

That should complete my container mango group.
I should have known this thread would cause this lol.

Now to wait 3 years for fruit ???
quote:

One thing that never gets brought up is how bad small pots can be for trees. They get very hot, very cold, and very dry FAST. Small pots are at the whims of nature while larger pots maintain things more evenly. Obviously the ground is the ideal situation but that's not what we're doing here. Large pots also allow you to grow large canopies which will eventually shade their own pot.


This is something I honestly haven’t thought about. I think that matters so much more for our climate. We have large temp swings daily, and the larger pots allow that air temp swing to be mitigated more.


Any particular good shape for a starfruit, mine has a very strong central leader with laterals spaced well..do you tip prune it to encourage more branching ?
Was at chapel farms today getting some wood chip mulch for a bed, and browsed his tropical shipment. Ended up grabbing a Kari Starfruit. It was on my list of eventual purchases. lol.

Funny that common though process on potting up tree sizes to always go slow (3,7,15,25) bc of drainage issues and having the root all sit in a wet pot, but I don’t think that’s the case with Gary’s mix. I think you can go straight to a 10-15 from 3 and not have issues. That’s been my experience anyways so far. They usually stall for about 4 weeks after the bare root wash, then flourish!
Okay been doing some digging.
Utopia trees out of California is getting a big restock of mango on Sunday. They ship. I’ve previously bought from them (Reed avocado) very nice tree and actually solid soil grow mix.
Not sure what sizes in what varieties, but from their online shop they have over 50. They will ship 7g.

So think I’m going to wait and see what they offer then.

I think im going cecilove over cogshal or little gem, as it seems the flavor profile is squarely different than my 2 other varieties.

Laff, online reviews seem to say it’s even slower growing than any other dwarf variety, what’s been you’re experience, big difference in potted vs in ground?
Great. I’ve checked all the normal
Places, and it appears Lara farms has a one gallon size for 85..but idk if I want to start with that small of a plant!
Other online Etsy sellers are north of 140 for a 3g yikes!

Not sure what to do
You got me wanting a Cecilove now. Where did you get the 3, you have. I know one was rough shape to start. But it seems to have a good flavor profile as well as disease resistance for our climate and dwarf habit ..
Cccp is the California clonal citrus program. It’s budwood that’s sold with known genetics and HLB free. It’s grown in hothouses with no bugs able to enter. Its only job is to make budwood.

No guarantees on my grafts. Could be throwing 75$ down the drain lol. But citrus seems more forgiving than other hardwood grafts. I think I finally understand the concept of cambium matching.


I do think I want a truly tiny banana. That looks reasonable to add.

I will say this, I have a bunch of other deciduous fruit trees in my yard, and they all are annoying. Seem to require more work, they have more disease and fungal pressure than anything. Aphids on everything.

This super el nino killing us with humidity!
So I ended up ordering and (luckily) getting a Shirinui (aka Sumo Orange) budwood stick from the CCCP.

Ordered only 3 buds, but they sent a whole stick! So planning to chip bud a few to my other trees, Cara Cara, Owari, and also plan to cleft graft a section to my golden nugget mandarin. Hoping redundancy will lead to some success.

I’ve been playing around with chip buds and got a Cara Cara bud to take to my lime tree lol. Everything I’ve read is just about practice more than anything.

I lost the 2 remaining Reed avocados that were on my tree last week while I was gone. They were marble sized, but I guess tree wasn’t happy and aborted them. Another year with no fruit :( oh well. Potted avocado trees look beautiful, so maybe that’s the way I go instead of dealing with the in ground plants.

I did end up at a Thai market in Ft Walton and tried some mangos they had, NDM and other yellow large, non names from Mexico. I had never had a mango that wasn’t fibrous. Wow. Custard and sweet with citrus undertone! Happy to find some of those!
How would i know if i needed to just cull the 2 mangos I let my Pickering hold. They still seem small, compared to the fact that they’re harvesting in Florida? But idk when those fruit start.

If I do pull them should I fertilize with some nitrogen to help push foliage since no fruit ?

re: Odd grassy weed

Posted by DickTater on 5/10/26 at 7:32 am to
Looks like many have this unique intruder lol.
I guess need to email LSU and see if they have any input.

re: Odd grassy weed

Posted by DickTater on 5/8/26 at 12:45 pm to
Agree CGrand
It’s not torpedo. I’ve seen that first hand. It’s not as pointy or stiff. It’s rather soft and was not connected to long rhizomes. Roots kind of clumpy
When you say thin guava to one per branch..you mean one to each branch off of a lateral scaffold branch?
I’m assuming bc I only have about 5-6 major scaffolds.

Mine is definitely loaded down with fruitlets. Don’t want so-so fruit.