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re: Louisiana Tropical Fruit Gardening - Experiences and Updates

Posted on 5/1/26 at 3:44 pm to
Posted by Tigerlaff
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Posted on 5/1/26 at 3:44 pm to
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How big is your lot!?!?!

About 0.6 acres. Not huge and way more shade than I would like.
Posted by Tigerlaff
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Posted on 5/1/26 at 3:51 pm to
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those look great. Are they all in full sun?
The rio grande arrived I’ll plant it today or tomorrow; what sun situation did you put yours in?


Thanks boss. The passionfruit is in half day sun.

COTRG will fruit in either full sun or part sun. If possible I would try to plant it on the south side of a brick wall or large oak tree. Remember this is still somewhat of an experiment with regard to cold hardiness. It's definitely not like a fig or loquat where you have zero concerns. Probably closer to a satsuma at best or navel orange at worst. A little protection is probably smart, especially for the first couple of years.

Or say what the hell and put that baby in full sun out in the open and let's see if it makes it. If it works you'll get the most and best fruit.

Hold on I'll link a helpful video about their apparent hardiness in Texas 9a.

Starts at 6:13

He's saying it survived 12F in Jan. 2025 and that it fruited after 20F this winter. That is significantly more cold tolerant than what is described from Florida sources.
This post was edited on 5/1/26 at 4:01 pm
Posted by Tigerlaff
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Posted on 5/1/26 at 7:41 pm to
Is anyone interested in me posting a link to a vetted mango (fruit) shipper from South Florida? This guy has the very best mangos. They are expensive considering the freeze and low supply. $202 via Zelle for a large Fedex overnight box which has about 10-13lbs of fruit. He opened 2026 sales today. I and many others have bought numerous times and it has always been top tier. The main reason to spend this much is to get a sense of what all these different varieties are like so you can decide which tree or class of tree to grow.

But I don't want to spam his stuff here and do all the image hosting BS if $202 is too steep and there is no interest.
Posted by Neauxla
New Orleans
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Posted on 5/1/26 at 9:49 pm to
Mina iskandar?
Posted by wiltznucs
Apollo Beach, FL
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Posted on 5/1/26 at 9:58 pm to
At a very elemental level I don’t want to support a business selling mangoes at $16lb shipped. Last year I could find locally grown mangoes for $5-6lb all day every day. I’m exceedingly aware that this year will be different; as I’ve put $3,000+ back into my own grove. I want to see Florida developed mangoes succeed and become an international phenomenon; they deserve it and I believe one day that will happen. But; it has to be somewhat approachable. We’ll never compete with $1lb Tommy’s from Mexico or Costa Rica. It needs to the $3-4lb Ceci’s and Little Gems. Blowing peoples minds the world over.
Posted by Tigerlaff
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Posted on 5/1/26 at 10:28 pm to
Agree but none of that is happening for us in Louisiana. It's pay or travel.
Posted by Tigerlaff
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Posted on 5/1/26 at 10:29 pm to
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Mina iskandar?

Yep.
Posted by cgrand
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Posted on 5/2/26 at 10:12 am to
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Or say what the hell and put that baby in full sun out in the open and let's see if it makes it.
that’s what I’m going to do. Plant arrived incredibly healthy and well packaged it’s got tons of new growth

Posted by Loup
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Posted on 5/2/26 at 11:10 am to
I think my Starfruit got too much water. We've had about 6" of rain over the last week. Its all droopy and sad looking.
Posted by Tigerlaff
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Posted on 5/2/26 at 12:12 pm to
Nice, you got the exact same one I did. Mine is doing great.

Posted by Tigerlaff
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Posted on 5/2/26 at 12:18 pm to
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I think my Starfruit got too much water. We've had about 6" of rain over the last week. Its all droopy and sad looking.

If it's in the right soil mix the rain won't matter. Just ignore it. Starfruit are huge drama queens and love to droop or drop leaves at minor stress. They act like little wusses but are in reality extremely tough and resilient trees. Any signs of stress probably have more to do with this cool snap in the 50s than the rain anyway.

Mine has drooping leaves right now because the sun is directly on it (on a tropical tree, the horror).

This post was edited on 5/2/26 at 12:19 pm
Posted by Tigerlaff
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Posted on 5/2/26 at 12:27 pm to
Welp I screwed up very big again today. Was clearing branches in the over canopy around my pawpaw patch with a pole saw. One of the branches broke weird and fell on an unexpected trajectory. It knocked 90% of the new growth off of my Shenandoah graft. One leaf remains. I really really hope it recovers. Kicking myself for such carelessness.



On a brighter note, I was able to bring in one of the kentia palms that I divided last week. No signs of transplant shock (yet). This will be an indoor plant for decades to come. Have 2 more slightly smaller than this from the division.

Posted by Neauxla
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Posted on 5/2/26 at 12:42 pm to
Damn! That is the worst! I had a neighbor’s weed treee break off in the storm yesterday and landed on my lime tree. Got some damage.

I am so disappointed in my lemon tree. It made it though the winter and had over a 100 baby Lemons on it in February and now it has zero. It’s 7 years old and very established. I don’t get it!




Posted by Tigerlaff
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Posted on 5/2/26 at 12:49 pm to
Got in a VERY interesting new addition today. As we all know, the problem with loquats in zone 9 is that they flower in the fall/winter and temps below 28F kill flowers and fruit. I have not seen a loaded loquat tree on the Northshore (9a) in 7 years. New Orleans (9b) on the other hand had a great loquat year.

But what if there was a loquat that flowered off season? Maybe one that flowered in the spring? Well, those apparently exist. The first I learned about was a mutation of the Algerie cultivar from Spain. It is called Piera and it allegedly blooms year round. So after the winter ends, it will just flower again and set fruit. There is nowhere to get this variety in the US.

The next ones I learned about are Chinese varieties aptly named Spring Flower #1 and Spring Flower #2. These do not flower continuously like Piera, but bloom after winter and ripen in the summer. These are available in the US at very high prices from niche and often shady sellers.

Today I got a Spring Flower #2. It arrived barerooted with no leaves from a New York Chinese Etsy seller with good reviews. There are obvious live buds on the plant, but more importantly there is a very well healed and mature graft union. This tells me that it is at least a select cultivar and that someone cared for it for a good while. Paid $100 for this stick.





I have a very good sunny spot reserved for this tree, but I can't plant it out now in full sun with no leaves and bare rooted. This one went into Gary's mix and will have to flush out new growth in a pot in my climate controlled grow room before I'm willing to stick it in the ground.



If this works, it should completely change how we grow loquats in 9a. Start your loquat seedlings now for rootstock and if it is real, everyone in this thread can eventually get a scion from me to graft.
This post was edited on 5/2/26 at 5:09 pm
Posted by cgrand
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Posted on 5/2/26 at 12:55 pm to
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Start your loquat seedlings now for rootstock
I’ve got that part covered

Posted by Tigerlaff
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Posted on 5/2/26 at 1:50 pm to
If you've got a big healthy fruit tree that's not setting fruit it's usually because it's too comfortable. I would prune that thing hard and withhold water. Lemons flower year round so you can do it now. That trunk is huge. You won't kill it.
Posted by Neauxla
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Posted on 5/2/26 at 2:02 pm to
Thanks! I want it a tad smaller anyway
Posted by Neauxla
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Posted on 5/2/26 at 4:10 pm to


Should I take more off the top?
Posted by Tigerlaff
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Posted on 5/2/26 at 4:26 pm to
Nope. That's perfect. They bloom on last year's wood and you have plenty of it on there. I would fertilize it now with a big drink of water and then not water for a while after. You would think these big healthy trees would be constantly loaded and they normally are, but sometimes they get so happy they don't feel the need to reproduce. You can kick them into gear with pruning, drought, cold, and for the adventurous, girdling.

Also just remember that pruning is good for pretty much all trees. Replacing old tissue with new tissue reduces spots where disease can enter. Pruning keeps them young and healthy. Just make sure you know what generation of wood your tree fruits on before cutting.
This post was edited on 5/2/26 at 4:34 pm
Posted by Tigerlaff
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Posted on 5/2/26 at 4:45 pm to
Taiwan ruby seedless guava update. This is the extremely highly rated (by Asians) sweet guava that is typically consumed while crunchy.

This thing arrived on 4/3/26 looking OK but in absolute garbage compost soil. Had no choice but to totally clean the roots and repot into the good stuff. That sent the tree into major shock, which happens about 10% of the time when I do this. Guavas are extremely tough and vigorous trees so I wasn't worried. But I can now say that these oval-leaved Asian varieties are definitely less vigorous than the central and south American guavas. It dropped almost all leaves and is only now slowly pushing new buds. Part of that is that I put it straight into a 25g.

On arrival:


Today:




The point of this was to find out if these super highly rated high brix Asian guavas will become soft during ripening and eat like western hemisphere guavas. We are on the way to finding out.
This post was edited on 5/2/26 at 5:11 pm
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