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re: Louisiana Tropical Fruit Gardening - Experiences and Updates

Posted on 4/29/26 at 6:03 am to
Posted by Tigerlaff
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Posted on 4/29/26 at 6:03 am to
Edited a bit about the pups. The pups will suck energy from the rack and most experienced growers only have 2 pups at any given time to properly distribute the energy.
Posted by Loup
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Posted on 4/29/26 at 6:23 am to
quote:

Edited a bit about the pups. The pups will suck energy from the rack and most experienced growers only have 2 pups at any given time to properly distribute the energy.


Thanks, I'll let my dog chew down a few more. There are probably 10-12 pups.
Posted by cgrand
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Posted on 4/29/26 at 8:55 am to
you have namwah pups? Could you pot one up for me?

I have maypop sprouts ready to plant if anyone wants one. Butterfly magnets

Posted by Loup
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Posted on 4/29/26 at 9:06 am to
quote:

you have namwah pups? Could you pot one up for me?



I bought it as ice cream/blue java. I can pot one up if you want. I think Tigerlaff had said that most blue java that you buy at nurseries are actually namwah.
Posted by Tigerlaff
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Posted on 4/29/26 at 9:07 am to
quote:

you have namwah pups? Could you pot one up for me?

I've got a bunch that I need to dig too. If Loup can't help hit me up. They are tall namwah though. I will have dwarf namwah pups later this summer.

quote:

Tigerlaff had said that most blue java that you buy at nurseries are actually namwah.

Yep. What is sold as ice cream/blue java at nurseries is almost always tall namwah. You have to go to a specialist for true blue java. Namwah is a better banana so I don't know why anyone would.
This post was edited on 4/29/26 at 9:12 am
Posted by cgrand
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Posted on 4/29/26 at 9:18 am to
yes tall namwah is what I want, if either of you get a chance I’d be grateful. I have a big sunny spot I’m renovating right now that I want to get banana and plantain going in
Posted by Tigerlaff
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Posted on 4/29/26 at 9:54 am to
Hoping to dig them this weekend. Will let you know once I've got them out and potted.

Tall namwah is great for landscaping purposes, etc. Huge plants with very long thick leaves. But dwarf namwah is far superior if you're hoping to harvest fruit.

For plantains, I highly recommend dwarf Orinoco. Very, very cold hardy.
This post was edited on 4/29/26 at 9:55 am
Posted by DickTater
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Posted on 4/29/26 at 9:56 am to
How many more posts till we hit a 100 pages of Tropical Love!

Ordered another avocado. Maria Black. It’s going in the spot my previous super Hass was in the yard. I’m tired of looking at the stump and can’t get the grafts to take. Probably bad timing and novice grafting.

I may see if the suckers growing off the stump are rooted in or connected..if so will try to save some.

Pickering in a full
Blown flower fest again. Guess it wasn’t happy with what I let it keep!

Also watched this YT video that compared forestry soil to Gary’s mix on a satsuma and did 1 and 2 year updates!
Exactly what we would expect

Update video
Posted by cgrand
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Posted on 4/29/26 at 10:56 am to

thanks brother man

La goyave de la maison Tigerlaff, cranking



Barbados cherry



Rio grande is supposed to be delivered tomorrow
Posted by Loup
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Posted on 4/29/26 at 5:02 pm to
I just potted up a pup. Not sure if itll survive or not. They're all in there so tight that its hard to get a bunch of root. Gonna baby it for a couple of weeks and see.
Posted by cgrand
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Posted on 4/29/26 at 5:04 pm to
Thank you
Posted by Tigerlaff
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Posted on 4/29/26 at 5:46 pm to
If you get even a couple of roots it'll take.
Posted by Tigerlaff
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Posted on 4/29/26 at 6:15 pm to
quote:

Rio grande is supposed to be delivered tomorrow

Planted mine 2 weeks ago and just starting to see new growth. I'm really excited about this Eugenia. I theorize that this is the absolute most tropical fruit that can be grown in 9a without protection once mature. More hardy than navel oranges.
Posted by Tigerlaff
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Posted on 4/29/26 at 6:30 pm to
Alright baws it's time for a hard learned lesson. I allowed my 25g Pickering mango to hold as much fruit as it wanted. This morning before leaving for work the tree looked totally fine with about 8 large mangos and 20 medium to small ones on one side of the tree. I figured it would shed some of those eventually, which it probably would have. When I got home from work I found this:





The weight of the fruit was too much and bent half the tree down to the ground, overcoming the strength of the main scaffold branch. I am extremely lucky the branch did not split. This was pure hubris on my part. I knew better than to allow that many fruit on half of a 25g tree. It serves me right.

I had to cut off a ton of fruit and some branches to reduce the weight and then tied it up to keep the fruit high. Only the 5 largest fruit remain on that side of the tree. I pruned all panicles so that they now have only one fruit each. Many had two this morning.









I'm just grateful that the wood didn't split. After harvest I will need to do some extremely thoughtful pruning to get the structure right. Learn from my hubris and don't make the same mistake!
This post was edited on 4/30/26 at 5:41 am
Posted by Neauxla
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Posted on 4/29/26 at 7:21 pm to
damn that sucks! Least it didn’t break!

I got my Pickering in from Melissa. Nice thick trunk! Fruit dropped but I don’t mind. Prob would have pulled them anyway.

Also my tiny Pickering from last year is sprouting growth. Is this above or below the graft? I’m not sure if the graft is above or below the tape.

Posted by wiltznucs
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Posted on 4/29/26 at 7:42 pm to
Glad it didn’t break. Looks extremely healthy otherwise.
Posted by wiltznucs
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Posted on 4/29/26 at 7:45 pm to
quote:

Is this above or below the graft? I’m not sure if the graft is above or below the tape.


The graft is just below the tape. It’s a v-shaped cleft graft. Pretty common. So that new growth will be Pickering.
This post was edited on 4/29/26 at 7:46 pm
Posted by Tigerlaff
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Posted on 4/29/26 at 7:57 pm to

That's your graft.

And that is one of the best mail order trees you will ever see. Great size and quality for shipping.
This post was edited on 4/29/26 at 8:00 pm
Posted by Tigerlaff
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Posted on 4/29/26 at 7:58 pm to
quote:

Glad it didn’t break. Looks extremely healthy otherwise.

Thanks. It has been in a 25g for 1 year but I'm considering moving to a 45 this fall to get bigger branches. I had planned to stay at 25g for 2-3 years.
Posted by wiltznucs
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Posted on 4/29/26 at 8:52 pm to
I think you have time. Definitely looks great; but, I’ve seen some healthy Pickering trees still in 25 gallon that are approaching 6-7 feet tall and 4-5 years old. That transplant shock always worries me. I’d let it fill out for another year or more.
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