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re: Louisiana Tropical Fruit Gardening - Experiences and Updates

Posted on 5/17/26 at 5:40 am to
Posted by Tigerlaff
FIGHTING out of the Carencro Sonic
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Posted on 5/17/26 at 5:40 am to
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Man you guys are busy. Jeez

I'm gonna have a big time palm tree post tomorrow just for you. Picking up some very exciting new additions from a Florida grower.
This post was edited on 5/17/26 at 5:52 am
Posted by LanierSpots
Gulf of America / Sarasota FL
Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 5/17/26 at 6:01 am to
Sweet. I am running out of places in my small yard for any more palms. GIves me the sadz.


My lot is like .000000001 acres and I have

7 triple pygmys
3 foxtails
5 Christmas palms
1 queen palm
2 bottle palms





That doesnt include what I have in containers around my pool. Sometimes I look at my back deck and think, you moron. You have too much shite out here. Plus all the projects I have going on in small containers. LOL.

I just dont have any space. If I did, I would be at the nursury getting a royal palm today.


Posted by Tigerlaff
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Posted on 5/17/26 at 6:48 am to
You should get a kentia palm for inside your house. Mine are doing great. They love indoor climate.

My post tomorrow won't really apply to you. This is for our zone 8b-9b guys. Very cool and rare species that should be all over the gulf coast and isn't.
Posted by cgrand
HAMMOND
Member since Oct 2009
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Posted on 5/17/26 at 10:21 am to
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Loup
your beautyberry is rocking.



Let me know when you want to trade. I’m in Hammond if you ever find yourself this way or I can meet you somewhere
Posted by LanierSpots
Gulf of America / Sarasota FL
Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 5/17/26 at 10:43 am to
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You should get a kentia palm for inside your house. Mine are doing great. They love indoor climate



Looks a lot like my majestic palm.



I moved my flamethrower a little more in the sun and I think it’s too much. Getting a little dried out and crispy.


I’m going to move it under the lanai for a while.
This post was edited on 5/17/26 at 10:45 am
Posted by Loup
Ferriday
Member since Apr 2019
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Posted on 5/18/26 at 8:06 am to
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Let me know when you want to trade. I’m in Hammond if you ever find yourself this way or I can meet you somewhere


We will have to figure something out, I rarely get out that way but I work in BR.
Posted by cgrand
HAMMOND
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Posted on 5/18/26 at 8:21 am to
I can hold my nose and meet you in BR
Posted by Hobie101
Member since May 2012
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Posted on 5/18/26 at 4:25 pm to
I planted a small grapefruit tree a couple of months ago. I’m in South Louisiana. I was wondering if there is any recommended spraying or other recommendations for preventative care? Thanks.
Posted by Tigerlaff
FIGHTING out of the Carencro Sonic
Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 5/18/26 at 6:30 pm to
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I planted a small grapefruit tree a couple of months ago. I’m in South Louisiana. I was wondering if there is any recommended spraying or other recommendations for preventative care? Thanks.


Spinosad spray every 7-10 days to keep the leaf miners and white flies off. Much easier to prevent than cure.

Your biggest threat will be cold. Make sure you have a well thought out plan to cover and add supplementary heat before winter gets here. Grapefruit does not like 9a/9b winters.
Posted by Tigerlaff
FIGHTING out of the Carencro Sonic
Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 5/18/26 at 8:02 pm to
Alright time for some cool updates.

First of the Bounty passionfruit are turning color and falling off the vine. I wish that these had hung on a little longer, but they will continue to ripen as long as the color has broken from green to purple. Will let them get wrinkled before eating.



Speaking of passionfruit, the Qinmi #9 is really starting to take off with the heat. Yellow passionfruit (Passiflora edulis flavicarpa) is more tropical than purple passionfruit (Passiflora edulis) and needs more hot weather. Really hope this lives up to the hype.



And in the coolest news of all, I have identified and located a new landscape palm hardy to zone 8 that is pinnate, trunking, and tolerates both full sun and full shade. This is Chamaedorea radicalis, a palm endemic to elevated oak forests in Tamaulipas, Mexico. These grow at altitude and tolerate much colder temperatures than similar looking palms of the region.





If you are familiar with palms in 9a you know that the only reliably hardy pinnate trunking palms are pretty much the pindo palm, mule palm, and maybe the Canary Island and Sylvester date palms depending on location. And even those (except the mule) have the arid "desert" palm look instead of a tropical look. Everything else is on borrowed time or has palmate fronds that don't look as tropical. Here's a photo of a more mature healthy one:



Radicalis is hardy to the teens and will not start taking damage until 20F. These particular ones came from a Pensacola grower. They experienced 18F a couple of years ago and suffered no damage even in pots. He had 13 inches of snow this past winter, also without effect.

You can put this palm anywhere. It takes more sun than any other palm in the Chamaedorea genus and also thrives in full shade. It even does great in containers. These things are bulletproof in zones 8-9 and I cannot for the life of me understand why they are not everywhere along the gulf coast. It's a huge miss by the southern nursery industry. The UK has known about them for years and makes great use of them.

I'll be putting 4 in the ground in shady spots and keeping one in a pot that I won't have to protect. The rest are going to family and friends.

ETA: potted one up. This looks damn good for something that will survive the teens.

This post was edited on 7/18/26 at 8:43 am
Posted by 81Tiger
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Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 5/19/26 at 9:18 am to
I planted this blue Java banana plant spring 2025 and I am hoping to have fruit later this year.

The main stalk is now about 7 feet tall. Two pups are 4-5 and two more are about 2 feet tall.

How many pups, if any, should I retain if my goal is to get a few bananas?

Thanks

Posted by Tigerlaff
FIGHTING out of the Carencro Sonic
Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 5/19/26 at 2:52 pm to
I don't think you are likely to harvest any bananas from that plant this year. If it was sold to you as blue java and you bought it from anywhere besides a specialty nursery, it's actually tall namwah. Tall namwah is not fruiting until 12-16 feet tall. That will be way too late. If you protect that 7ft stalk this winter you may very well get it to flower in the spring.

Experienced banana growers will tell you that your corm should only have 3 stalks: this year's fruit stalk, next year's fruit stalk about half the size of this year's, and a small pup less than half the size of the middle stalk.

I try to limit each mat to 4 stalks, but I don't worry too much about it. They get stronger and stronger every year and will eventually fruit faster.
This post was edited on 5/19/26 at 2:55 pm
Posted by cgrand
HAMMOND
Member since Oct 2009
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Posted on 5/19/26 at 4:41 pm to
this area is starting to look coonass-tropical and pretty cool I think. This is a wet bed behind my shower deck that catches the runoff. Everything in there I dug up out of a ditch.









This is shampoo ginger I’ve been trying to get this going in an other adjacent bed but it’s not been easy. Growing super slow and it gets a late start, just now sprouting. It’s supposed to be beautiful so I’m not giving up



This post was edited on 5/19/26 at 4:47 pm
Posted by Neauxla
New Orleans
Member since Feb 2008
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Posted on 5/19/26 at 4:44 pm to
Looks nice!
Posted by cgrand
HAMMOND
Member since Oct 2009
50597 posts
Posted on 5/19/26 at 6:02 pm to
thanks brah

Here’s the other wet area I’m going to go jungle with, I only cleared it out a couple weeks ago. I’m hoping that palmetto takes off



I ordered some pretty native wet spot plants from a place up in MN that I’m going to try and reverse zone (bottle gentian) and some prairie rose starts that I know will do fine there. That’s a drain swale and it stays pretty wet
Posted by Tigerlaff
FIGHTING out of the Carencro Sonic
Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 5/19/26 at 6:56 pm to
You need to plant Thai Giant colocasia in those wet areas. Bananas too and maybe some swamp hibiscus.
This post was edited on 5/19/26 at 7:04 pm
Posted by cgrand
HAMMOND
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Posted on 5/19/26 at 7:03 pm to
you think that would be a good banana spot? I didn’t think about that. The soil is black and it can hold water sometimes (just a day or usually)
Posted by Tigerlaff
FIGHTING out of the Carencro Sonic
Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 5/19/26 at 7:05 pm to
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you think that would be a good banana spot? I didn’t think about that. The soil is black and it can hold water sometimes (just a day or usually)


Absolutely. Sun and water. Just add fertilizer.
Posted by cgrand
HAMMOND
Member since Oct 2009
50597 posts
Posted on 5/19/26 at 7:08 pm to
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Thai Giant colocasia
holy shite



that one I’d have think about

I keep planting rose mallow seeds and they don’t do shite. I’ll have to try and find some starts
This post was edited on 5/19/26 at 7:12 pm
Posted by Loup
Ferriday
Member since Apr 2019
17581 posts
Posted on 5/19/26 at 7:35 pm to
Not a tropical but has anybody here had any luck transplanting and growing a cowcumber magnolia? I tried it 4 or 5 years ago and didnt have any luck getting them to live.
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