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I'm filling in holes with topsoil

Posted on 4/29/23 at 12:20 pm
Posted by bleedsgarnet
Virginia
Member since Apr 2014
787 posts
Posted on 4/29/23 at 12:20 pm
I get at lowes. I'm trying to plant grass. It has so much mulch in it that the grass seed won't establish.

Where can I just get real dirt? I called one place and they have sifted dirt by the truck load...
Posted by ItzMe1972
Member since Dec 2013
9800 posts
Posted on 4/29/23 at 12:39 pm to
Where are you located?
Posted by LSUtigerME
Walker, LA
Member since Oct 2012
3796 posts
Posted on 4/29/23 at 1:03 pm to
You can likely get decent soil from a local nursery.

You can get it by the yard/half yard in the bed of your truck.
Posted by weadjust
Member since Aug 2012
15098 posts
Posted on 4/29/23 at 1:08 pm to
I go to my local nursery. They will dump a whole front end loader bucket full on my trailer for $10
Posted by bleedsgarnet
Virginia
Member since Apr 2014
787 posts
Posted on 4/29/23 at 1:27 pm to
Thanks..
Posted by CrawDude
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2019
5266 posts
Posted on 4/29/23 at 2:08 pm to
Need to get Puffoluffagus to add this to the Lawn Sticked thread - that bagged “Top Soil” sold by the big Box Stores and many retail garden centers is not mineral soil (I.e., “dirt”) at all but rather nearly 100% composted organic matter (composted forest products) with a little sand added. It’s not the stuff you want to fill holes and low areas with.

If that small bag labeled “top soil” doesn’t weigh 40 to 50 lbs when you lift it, it ain’t real mineral soil/dirt but rather compost. Top soil as most of us learned it somewhere in school, college, … whereever, is mineral soil consisting of silt, clay and sand, with maybe 2 to 5% organic matter.
Posted by tigeroarz1
Winston-Salem, NC
Member since Oct 2013
3375 posts
Posted on 4/29/23 at 4:11 pm to
I bought that crap one time. They should be embarrassed to sell that product. It is literally wood product.
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
73681 posts
Posted on 4/29/23 at 5:11 pm to
Buy masonry sand instead. You don't want topsoil.
Posted by ronk
Member since Jan 2015
6197 posts
Posted on 4/29/23 at 5:43 pm to
Depends on the size of the holes. If he’s leveling then definitely Mason sand. If they are holes he needs dirt.
Posted by Daponch
Da Nortchore
Member since Mar 2013
996 posts
Posted on 4/29/23 at 5:48 pm to
Native topsoil is what you need to fill holes. Some soil suppliers sell their materials pre bagged for people that don’t have trucks or trailers.
Posted by armsdealer
Member since Feb 2016
11501 posts
Posted on 4/29/23 at 8:07 pm to
Both my grandpas used sand for leveling. My dad... he just had holes in his yard.
Posted by Bayou
CenLA
Member since Feb 2005
36811 posts
Posted on 4/29/23 at 8:18 pm to
shovel, bucket ---> go to woods
Posted by magicman534
The dirty dell
Member since May 2011
1573 posts
Posted on 4/30/23 at 8:04 am to
I used mason sand and an old push broom to level my lawn. One yard for front yard and one for back. One yard fits perfectly in the back of a 1/2 ton pickup. I paid 60$ per yard In slidell at the garden spot. The price difference between bulk and bagged is insane. Like 3x the price for bagged last time I compared garden soil.
Posted by Spankum
Miss-sippi
Member since Jan 2007
56028 posts
Posted on 4/30/23 at 10:05 am to
quote:

I bought that crap one time. They should be embarrassed to sell that product. It is literally wood product.



Yep…they call it “soil”, but it is actually the crap they clean out of wood mills, so it is primarily sand and bark that they can’t use to make paper or plywood. It is composted down, but a lot of the large chips remain.
Posted by Daponch
Da Nortchore
Member since Mar 2013
996 posts
Posted on 4/30/23 at 12:36 pm to
Just like ronk said . Native topsoil for the deeper part of the holes and then topdress with a clean sand. Mason is best
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
Aberdeen,NC
Member since Jul 2009
125410 posts
Posted on 4/30/23 at 4:31 pm to
quote:

It is literally wood product.




yea im done using it

there is a reason its like $3 a bag

sometimes it retrains water and keeps its color bc its dirt , but the second the wood chips of it dries out its fricked.

The wood chips also wash away so easy and pile up in any type of heavy storm

I have better luck using garden soil LOL
This post was edited on 4/30/23 at 10:59 pm
Posted by cgrand
HAMMOND
Member since Oct 2009
38772 posts
Posted on 5/1/23 at 7:20 am to
everyone here has it right.
use soil (any soil) to fill large holes and mason sand to level. And yes a push broom is the best way to install the sand

goes without saying here I hope but do not use river silt
Posted by concrete_tiger
Member since May 2020
5995 posts
Posted on 5/1/23 at 8:58 am to
I topdress my lawn using a mix of stuff

sand
topsoil but not the cheap stuff, get the dookie stuff
maybe some peat moss

Mix it together in a wheelbarrow and fill in holes, etc, and then I pull a drag over it if needed.

I used to get dirt from the feedlot at the farm, and it made the grass VERY happy, but it produced a shiatton of weeds, so I quit doing it. But you could do that.. find a farm, they will likely gladly give you scoops of it. When it dries out, it's often very sandy and easy to spread.
Posted by jojothetireguy
Live out in Coconut Grove
Member since Jan 2009
10484 posts
Posted on 5/1/23 at 9:13 am to
Where can i get the good top soil bagged or even bagged dirt around Prairieville, Baton Rouge area?
Posted by concrete_tiger
Member since May 2020
5995 posts
Posted on 5/1/23 at 9:40 am to
quote:

Where can i get the good top soil bagged or even bagged dirt around Prairieville, Baton Rouge area?


It can be tricky. National brands are produced regionally or even locally, so what is good in one place might suck somewhere else.

Looks like you have a ton of sod farms near you, they often sell topsoil or have a lead. You can typically buy soil by the yard from landscaping supply places that you can see with your own eyes. They'll either dump it in your truck/trailer or they might have bulk bags they can provide.

There's a sod place near me that sells bulk stuff, and I just get a scoop dumped right into the truck.

Quick search shows Woerner Turf sells bulk materials near you, but I have no clue about them.
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