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Breakers randomly tripping
Posted on 12/21/23 at 5:20 pm
Posted on 12/21/23 at 5:20 pm
We moved into an 8 year old house in August and last week one of our breakers that powers our kitchen/living room randomly tripped twice. It is a 15 amp arc fault breaker and the only thing it’s powering is TV/soundbar, lights for the kitchen, and a few outlets that have cell chargers plugged into them.
Today the same breaker tripped and at the same time our daughter’s bedroom tripped. It is also a 15 amp arc fault breaker and the only things it has is TV and streaming device, cell charger, printer etc.
What would cause 2 different breakers to trip randomly?
Today the same breaker tripped and at the same time our daughter’s bedroom tripped. It is also a 15 amp arc fault breaker and the only things it has is TV and streaming device, cell charger, printer etc.
What would cause 2 different breakers to trip randomly?
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Posted on 12/21/23 at 5:30 pm to cassopher
Breakers get old.
Maybe it’s that simple
Maybe it’s that simple
Posted on 12/21/23 at 6:08 pm to bbvdd
Breakers get old.
Maybe it’s that simple
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Not that old, but sure could be a bad batch.
Cheap and easy enough to find out.
Maybe it’s that simple
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Not that old, but sure could be a bad batch.
Cheap and easy enough to find out.
Posted on 12/21/23 at 6:34 pm to cassopher
I had an electrician friend tell me all new houses have to have the new arc fault breakers to pass inspection. He also said they suck and he replaces them with regular ones when they start tripping
Posted on 12/21/23 at 6:58 pm to GooseCreekMafia
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I had an electrician friend tell me all new houses have to have the new arc fault breakers to pass inspection. He also said they suck and he replaces them with regular ones when they start tripping
From what I’ve heard they are very sensitive.
This post was edited on 12/21/23 at 7:00 pm
Posted on 12/21/23 at 7:05 pm to GooseCreekMafia
I inspected houses for a few years. Take a breaker out, using the internet, check the manufacturer and the model number of the breaker. They'll have a list of a bad batch of breakers. To give you an idea .....I did a one year warranty inspection and noticed a group of numbers I had seen the night before. Square D had over 15,000 bad breakers. Funny part of it. This was a new housing development, I had copied the notification from Square D. The owner called the foreman, who had been an inspector. He came over and took a copy of what I had .....they had 4,000 of the 15,000 recalled.
Posted on 12/21/23 at 9:19 pm to cassopher
Yep probably bad breakers OP. Easy to replace. Easiest thing to do for free is swap the bad one with another one on your breaker panel, if it trips again…you know your issue.
Posted on 12/22/23 at 6:56 am to cassopher
Our house was built in 2016 and per county code we have a ton of arc fault breakers. I think we have had three or four already replaced.
If they are EATON breakers they have a red LED that flashes a code of between 1 and 6 blinks. 6 is the code for failing the internal self test, which is what all of the ones we have had replaced have done.
If they are EATON breakers they have a red LED that flashes a code of between 1 and 6 blinks. 6 is the code for failing the internal self test, which is what all of the ones we have had replaced have done.
Posted on 12/22/23 at 9:24 am to GooseCreekMafia
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I had an electrician friend tell me all new houses have to have the new arc fault breakers to pass inspection. He also said they suck and he replaces them with regular ones when they start tripping
THIS
When we had our home built a few years ago - same thing. Simple swap
Posted on 12/22/23 at 10:34 am to cassopher
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Breakers randomly tripping
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arc fault breaker
That's your problem. Those go out quicker than others. You have to replace it.
Posted on 12/22/23 at 11:12 am to cassopher
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What would cause 2 different breakers to trip randomly?
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Today the same breaker tripped and at the same time our daughter’s bedroom tripped.
Have you considered 2 doing it at the same time might not actually be random?
Posted on 12/22/23 at 6:56 pm to cassopher
Everyone wants to blame the breakers, buts it’s most likely something like shitty Chinese chargers or a frayed vacuum cord that is causing your breakers to trip correctly
Posted on 12/22/23 at 8:24 pm to bee Rye
quote:or my $7k Thermador fridge column or my $2500 Hoshizaki outdoor fridge? Thats one ones that trip in my house LOL.
Everyone wants to blame the breakers, buts it’s most likely something like shitty Chinese chargers or a frayed vacuum cord that is causing your breakers to trip correctly
Posted on 12/23/23 at 9:20 am to achenator
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or my $7k Thermador fridge column or my $2500 Hoshizaki outdoor fridge? Thats one ones that trip in my house LOL
Subtle
Posted on 12/23/23 at 10:31 am to cassopher
Lose the arc fault breakers, they are crap. That will probably solve most of your problems.
Posted on 12/23/23 at 11:07 am to bee Rye
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most likely something like shitty Chinese chargers or a frayed vacuum cord that is causing your breakers to trip correctly
I've had Siemens arc faults by choice since my remodel over a decade ago and haven't had any issues. A few years ago I did try running a powerhead to a old central vac and for whatever reason it wouldn't run on an afci breaker. I think early on the arc faults may of been not quite up to snuff but they've got them figured out not. If you're still having "nuisance trips" then you may need to look at the wiring or appliance. The afci probably isn't to blame but installing a standard breaker may "fix" the issue.
Posted on 12/23/23 at 12:23 pm to achenator
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or my $7k Thermador fridge column or my $2500 Hoshizaki outdoor fridge?
The outdoor fridge still doesn’t require an arc fault. And unless your home was built in the last 6 months or so, your indoor fridge didn’t either.
Posted on 12/23/23 at 2:58 pm to achenator
The defrost cycle can trip Arc fault and even GFCI breakers.
Shouldn't but can. You're running a heating element. There is a path to ground.
Shouldn't but can. You're running a heating element. There is a path to ground.
Posted on 12/23/23 at 3:22 pm to cassopher
FWIW....Don't know what type of breakers you have but the Eaton CH arc fault / ground fault circuit breakers have a guarantee on them. Went thru this a few months back. They self test and trip if an error is found. If they don't pass the self check, they will not reset. Contacted them and they sent 2 breakers no charge.
Posted on 12/24/23 at 3:18 am to cassopher
Arc fault breakers will trip a lot with Christmas lights.
This post was edited on 12/24/23 at 3:22 am
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