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Bathroom Remodel - Pocket Door

Posted on 2/21/23 at 5:49 pm
Posted by MLSter
Member since Feb 2013
3969 posts
Posted on 2/21/23 at 5:49 pm
Thinking of adding a pocket door in a bathroom remodel I’m doing.

Demoing and existing non load bearing wall with door. Going back with pocket door.
I understand electrical will have to move.

Any comments or experience with installing new pocket door?
Is there a brand that’s better than others? Methods better than others?

I have limited experience with pocket doors, like the concept but very rarely have I seen it function properly. Typically unimpressed with the hardware. However, only places I’ve seen them are older houses. Is there better/new hardware?

Posted by LSUtigerME
Walker, LA
Member since Oct 2012
3796 posts
Posted on 2/21/23 at 6:08 pm to
Don’t do it.

Do everything you can to avoid it.

ETA: Johnson hardware I recall being okay. If the wall is the wet wall or you can frame it with 2x6s, they can be a lot better.
This post was edited on 2/21/23 at 6:10 pm
Posted by Sir Saint
1 post
Member since Jun 2010
5323 posts
Posted on 2/21/23 at 6:47 pm to
Every comment I’ve ever seen on this board re: pocket doors has ranged from mild annoyance to total piss off.

As an occasional user of pocket doors at hotels, friends house, etc. - I hate them.
Posted by armsdealer
Member since Feb 2016
11507 posts
Posted on 2/21/23 at 7:11 pm to
We have a pocket door between our laundry room and kitchen and I personally like it. I wouldn't put one in just to put one in but it saves so much space in that area. It operates fine but was probably put in during the 70's. We use it mostly to dampen the noise and heat from the dryer and I think that was the design purpose. It seals all the way to the ground, it doesn't have the typical gap interior doors have at the bottom for air flow.
Posted by calcotron
Member since Nov 2007
8271 posts
Posted on 2/21/23 at 7:29 pm to
I grew up with one on our bathroom, it was fine. In the houses I've owned, I can think of at least 10 cases, 4 in my current house, where the doors are in the damn way and a pocket door makes more sense. Not doing it unless I'm already redoing an entire room though.
Posted by Spankum
Miss-sippi
Member since Jan 2007
56036 posts
Posted on 2/21/23 at 8:05 pm to
quote:

only places I’ve seen them are older houses.


There’s a damn good reason for that…..
This post was edited on 2/22/23 at 9:43 pm
Posted by Puffoluffagus
Savannah, GA
Member since Feb 2009
6098 posts
Posted on 2/21/23 at 8:17 pm to
Love/hate relationship with pocket doors.

Great that they save space and functional..eventually they all seem to become unlevel..so either they want stay completely open or completely closed...and to relevel you need to take some of the trim moulding off and if you have intricate trim well then I'll just live with it being unlevel I guess.
Posted by GooseCreekMafia
Member since Jun 2017
657 posts
Posted on 2/21/23 at 8:38 pm to
I put 2 in our new build. One between laundry room and master bath and then one in 1/2 bath. Both work great and were easy to install the doors. I did all interior doors. I actually wish I had 4 more in other spots.
Posted by LSUtigerME
Walker, LA
Member since Oct 2012
3796 posts
Posted on 2/21/23 at 8:53 pm to
I have 5 in my house. 3 for closets, 2 for bathrooms. One of them was on the plans, the framer omitted it, I had him add it back. It NEVER gets used. Wish I would have just rolled without it.

Do not recommend.

They don’t seal well at all. They are terrible for noise isolation (since this is for a bathroom). They are not “easy” to operate and do not lock all that well. They are noisy compared to a regular door. The area where they retract into the wall becomes useless on both sides. No electrical, no plumbing, no studs, no cabinets. Even hanging a picture can be troublesome and you have to be careful. The wall is noticeably flimsy by comparison. This is why I mentioned if it’s on a wet wall where a 2x6 framing is required, you can utilize the extra space for studs and really stiffen the wall and make it useful.

At the framing stage, installation is not too bad. Trimming them out sucks.

If they ever fail, you’re ripping into trim at a minimum, the wall otherwise.

They solve a problem that’s the result of poor design. They are great for the problem they solve. Legitimately 2 or 3 of my 5 are useful. The others I wish I would have modified to use a standard door.

Like I said before, do everything you can to avoid them.
Posted by meeple
Carcassonne
Member since May 2011
9376 posts
Posted on 2/21/23 at 9:01 pm to
We opted for barn doors in a remodel where regular doors wouldn’t work (not much space). May be trendy but we went for functionality. Pocket doors would have added another 6” of wall thickness due to plumbing.
Posted by djangochained
Gardere
Member since Jul 2013
19054 posts
Posted on 2/21/23 at 9:22 pm to
We have 4 in our jack and Jill bath upstairs and never had a problem
Posted by LSUDad
Still on the move
Member since May 2004
58785 posts
Posted on 2/22/23 at 12:09 am to
My house I built in 93, I had 4 pocket doors. If it’s something that stays open 90% of the time, they are great.
If it’s something that you will be opening and closing all the time, nope, it’s a pain.
Posted by MLSter
Member since Feb 2013
3969 posts
Posted on 2/22/23 at 6:31 am to
It will be a door that’s open a majority of the time.

Right now you open door to enter bathroom.
Walk through the door into a small room with vanity/sink to left, bathroom closet to right. 4’ in front of the entrance door is another door to the shower and toilet. That is the door I will replace with the pocket door.

Should stay open 90% of the time. Only close when children or guest need to be in shower|toilet area and vanity at the same time.

Don’t want to eliminate the current door/wall and loose the ability to close off those areas.

Would prefer to make it an arched opening with a pocket door.
Posted by cgrand
HAMMOND
Member since Oct 2009
38814 posts
Posted on 2/22/23 at 7:06 am to
if you have the room you can make a double wall with a cavity for the pocket door leafs on both sides. That will give you usable wall space and still have the pocket doors

assuming a 2” cavity plus 4” wall on either side you’ll have a 10” wall. You could also use 2” studs to narrow it down further
Posted by modes
Member since May 2017
258 posts
Posted on 2/22/23 at 9:02 am to
In my experience, a solid core door performs way better than a hollow core door. The extra weight keeps it in line and a smoother slide

I used a RocketPocket frame on a recent remodel. It's a light gauge metal frame that comes in a kit. Took about an hour to install. One thing I wish I would have done was liquid nail the bottom track down instead of relying on the screws. But if you increased the thickness of the wall like cgrand recommends, that would help too.

No complaints about the frame yet.
Posted by LSUTIGERTAILG8ER
Chance of Rain....NEVER!!
Member since Nov 2007
1743 posts
Posted on 2/22/23 at 9:07 am to
would a sliding barn style door work instead?
Posted by eng08
Member since Jan 2013
5997 posts
Posted on 2/22/23 at 9:18 am to
Replaced my hollow core pocket doors with solid core ones. They work much better,

Buy a good lock for it, the crappy ones are crappy.
Posted by joeyp
destrehan,la
Member since Nov 2008
183 posts
Posted on 2/22/23 at 10:20 am to
I added 3 in my master bath/ closets and don't regret it. When walking into my bath, the double vanities are on the left and the closets are to the right and were out swing doors. My wife would always leave her side open so you'd have to close it to get to the entrance where toilet and shower are. I got tired of it so added them there. the entrance to the toilet and shower was an inswing door and would hit the toilet when fully opened. I got tired of that too and added a pocket door. Now whether they are opened or closed, there's no interference in the walkways to each area. I put one in my upstairs bathroom but only because we were able to add a closet. I didn't want those doors to tangle with each other so now they work as I wanted. I went with johnson hardware for all of mine and have been pleased. I used kwikset for all of the lock hardware and they've been working well.
Posted by LSUSLU106
Member since Mar 2015
532 posts
Posted on 2/22/23 at 10:25 am to
We have 3 inside my house. Have not had A issue with either one of them.
Posted by texn
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Member since Nov 2019
3505 posts
Posted on 2/22/23 at 3:18 pm to
quote:

Don’t do it.

Do everything you can to avoid it.


I would double down on this advice if there was any chance kids will be using the pocket doors. I lost count number of times I've had to rehang pocket doors to the kids' bathroom.
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