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re: Anyone Regret Replacing an Asphalt Roof with Metal?
Posted on 5/17/23 at 11:32 am to TigerGman
Posted on 5/17/23 at 11:32 am to TigerGman
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They look like shite.

I'm a GC but the main thing we do is roofing. A standing seam metal roof is badass. I love they way they look too, you just have to pick the right color. Having no screws helps improve the look. Haven't had a single person outright buy a standing seam roof though, they are pricey. You almost need to have a metal roof already and insurance pay for that then just pay for an upgrade from a screw down. A standing seam if installed properly will never leak and you don't have any maintenance like you do with a screw down.
Posted on 5/17/23 at 12:45 pm to iwyLSUiwy
quote:My buddy in roofing says asphalt shingles have gotten so pricey that standing seam metal roofs don't seem that much more expensive now.
Haven't had a single person outright buy a standing seam roof though, they are pricey.
Posted on 5/17/23 at 1:26 pm to WB Davis
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My buddy in roofing says asphalt shingles have gotten so pricey that standing seam metal roofs don't seem that much more expensive now.
For reference, using Xactimate for pricing (which is what almost all insurance companies use), I just checked and removing and replacing a standing seam roof right now is right at 1k per square, or $10 a square foot.
And architectural shingle, remove and replace is right at $300 per square. Screw down metal is about $650 per square.
That is North Louisiana pricing. The prices vary for different locations but insurance typically pays less here than most other areas. Good for the homeowner I guess, bad for the contractor. Dallas is probably close to double if I had to guess.
If we were doing a cash job, and there are so many different variables (one story or two, how steep the roof, what trim needs to be done, etc.), the price could be done cheaper. But insurance pays more of a fair price than a cash job. There's not a ton of profit in a cash job.
Not sure how much standing seam your buddy does, but he might be mistaken on prices. I have a 90k roll forming machine where we roll out our own panels on site, which is the best way for us and the homeowner to save on price, and it's still not even close to the same price as asphalt shingles.
Posted on 5/17/23 at 3:04 pm to WB Davis
The colors fade overtime and look like crap. If you go metal just get plain silver galvalume as the color.
Posted on 5/17/23 at 6:14 pm to WB Davis
Seems like they lose bright color quicker than shingle and not sure I know a metal roof company that has as good a warranty and is a publicly traded company behind it like OC or GAF orc others.
Posted on 5/17/23 at 7:08 pm to La Squared
Everyone down our street who had metal roof had it torn off during Ida. I can’t see aesthetics of metal roofing with brick. Yuck.
Posted on 5/17/23 at 10:23 pm to eatpie
Just did one of ours. About 20-25 years old, best guess. Weren’t in terrible shape but needed to be done sooner rather than later
Not a big ordeal to do, roof does get slippery though.
Not a big ordeal to do, roof does get slippery though.
Posted on 5/18/23 at 9:41 am to WB Davis
I replaced my roof 3 years ago.
Roof is 80 squares (1.5 story with dormers with a 2-car garage and workroom next to it. The home is half the square footage of the darn roof!)
A 30-year architectural shingle asphalt roof was $30K
Standing seam metal, slate, and metal shingles were about 3x the cost. There are other options- stone coated shingles, and a number of other brands/styles (including a wavy metal that looks a lot like the clay shingle style of roof famous around LSU’s campus), but they are supposed to be up there in price along with those.
I really liked the metal shingles above. I had a sample of them and everything. I was close to ready to pull the trigger, the sheer cost just didn’t do it for me. Even if they last 100 years, the total cost of ownership is about the same as 3 asphalt roofs, which are 30-year rated (and my last one was right around 30 years old when it was replaced).
And then I saw damage after Hurricane Laura where very well-made and high-end homes had roofs and decking pulled off and were bare to the frame in several cases. While that’s a near-generational windstorm, I sort of just decided that nature was horrifying. If it would have increased home value, I may have considered it, but I just could not see someone adding $60K in value in the home they were buying from the roof.
Roof is 80 squares (1.5 story with dormers with a 2-car garage and workroom next to it. The home is half the square footage of the darn roof!)
A 30-year architectural shingle asphalt roof was $30K
Standing seam metal, slate, and metal shingles were about 3x the cost. There are other options- stone coated shingles, and a number of other brands/styles (including a wavy metal that looks a lot like the clay shingle style of roof famous around LSU’s campus), but they are supposed to be up there in price along with those.
I really liked the metal shingles above. I had a sample of them and everything. I was close to ready to pull the trigger, the sheer cost just didn’t do it for me. Even if they last 100 years, the total cost of ownership is about the same as 3 asphalt roofs, which are 30-year rated (and my last one was right around 30 years old when it was replaced).
And then I saw damage after Hurricane Laura where very well-made and high-end homes had roofs and decking pulled off and were bare to the frame in several cases. While that’s a near-generational windstorm, I sort of just decided that nature was horrifying. If it would have increased home value, I may have considered it, but I just could not see someone adding $60K in value in the home they were buying from the roof.
Posted on 5/18/23 at 1:23 pm to iwyLSUiwy
Good info, thanks.
My roofer buddy was saying around $800-$1000 per square for standing seam metal and $600 for good-quality asphalt.
With so much hail and wildfire risk, new construction in this neighborhood seems to be around 60% metal and 40% asphalt.
My roofer buddy was saying around $800-$1000 per square for standing seam metal and $600 for good-quality asphalt.
With so much hail and wildfire risk, new construction in this neighborhood seems to be around 60% metal and 40% asphalt.
Posted on 5/18/23 at 4:09 pm to DownshiftAndFloorIt
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If your house isn't under a tree it'll likely never need replacing.
..... what if your house is under say a 35foot cypress in the front and oak tree in the back?
Posted on 5/18/23 at 5:20 pm to WB Davis
Dont they boast a lot better R value? My understanding is that they are great for energy savings.
Posted on 5/19/23 at 10:51 am to WB Davis
I just replaced the shingles on my house and one shed plus corrugated metal on another shed. The roofer quoted almost twice as much for just the standing seam on the house than repairing all three with what was currently on there.
Posted on 8/24/23 at 3:30 pm to ISEN_AG
We were lucky to have a competent crew that replaced the asphalt roof with standing-seam metal.
They added striations - shallow, accordion-shaped bends between the seams that are hard to notice unless you look for them - to compensate for the slightly uneven wooden decking that was exposed when they removed the asphalt.
They also had to fight with one section in a complicated roof architecture that wasn't built exactly square. Making the seams line up for good aesthetics took some planning.
They added striations - shallow, accordion-shaped bends between the seams that are hard to notice unless you look for them - to compensate for the slightly uneven wooden decking that was exposed when they removed the asphalt.
They also had to fight with one section in a complicated roof architecture that wasn't built exactly square. Making the seams line up for good aesthetics took some planning.
Posted on 8/24/23 at 4:18 pm to WB Davis
What's the realistic life span on the gulf coast of a metal roof with these new insurance changes? I know of people that are having to replace "30 year" shingle roofs in 12-18 years. Do metal roof owners have a similar issue where insurance is saying to replace or lose coverage?
Posted on 8/24/23 at 4:28 pm to baldona
Paint warranties seem to be an indication of metal roof life expectancy.
The standing-seam metal roofing material manufacturer we used has a 45-year warranty on the paint coating.
The big-name manufacturer of lower-cost screw-on metal roofing material has a 30-year warranty on the paint.
ETA: there are lots of houses in my neighborhood with 1960's screw-on metal roofs that have faded paint but look 100% structurally sound.
The standing-seam metal roofing material manufacturer we used has a 45-year warranty on the paint coating.
The big-name manufacturer of lower-cost screw-on metal roofing material has a 30-year warranty on the paint.
ETA: there are lots of houses in my neighborhood with 1960's screw-on metal roofs that have faded paint but look 100% structurally sound.
This post was edited on 8/24/23 at 4:34 pm
Posted on 8/24/23 at 4:39 pm to WB Davis
Do not regret. We put the copper painted metal roof on our home. Hip roof with several valleys. It is gorgeous. People stop when they are driving by to comment on how much they love it.
Posted on 8/25/23 at 11:56 am to ChenierauTigre
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Do not regret. We put the copper painted metal roof on our home. Hip roof with several valleys. It is gorgeous. People stop when they are driving by to comment on how much they love it
Any chance you can post some pics? We were thinking of doing a copper colored metal roof on our house, which takes balls since it is a pretty bold choice.
Posted on 8/25/23 at 12:52 pm to WB Davis
if doing metal, standing seam is the only way to go. It isnt worth it IMO for the other type with the metal screws showing, You have to replace all screws and washers every 15-20 years. They will leak.
Home owners insurance goes down around 1000-1500 a year with a standing seam metal room, at least mine did. My biggest selling point is I dont have to worry about shingles during or after a storm to replace.
Home owners insurance goes down around 1000-1500 a year with a standing seam metal room, at least mine did. My biggest selling point is I dont have to worry about shingles during or after a storm to replace.
Posted on 8/25/23 at 1:08 pm to Hopeful Doc
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And then I saw damage after Hurricane Laura where very well-made and high-end homes had roofs and decking pulled off and were bare to the frame in several cases. While that’s a near-generational windstorm, I sort of just decided that nature was horrifying. If it would have increased home value, I may have considered it, but I just could not see someone adding $60K in value in the home they were buying from the roof.
If you aren’t in a wind or hail zone I would agree, but if you are there is a world of difference in how metal performs compared to shingles.
Lose a couple shingles in a high wind situation and now you are dealing with interior damage from water intrusion. Given the current insurance world and the likelihood of a high dollar storm deductible, the choice to go with metal seems like a no brainer particularly if you are building.
Reality is if the wind is strong enough to destroy a properly installed S FL hurricane code roof you are probably going to lose the entire house.
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