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re: 2023 Lawn Thread - Helpful Tips, Q&A, general discussion

Posted on 5/4/23 at 2:06 pm to
Posted by tide06
Member since Oct 2011
16621 posts
Posted on 5/4/23 at 2:06 pm to
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So overwatering isnt the solution huh with most of the dead spots or patchiness?

I had removed our bricks that were down as a patio and threw down some grass seed. its taken off likely 80% but still not 100%. Looking for more thickness etc.

Just coming here for some insight if possible



Again, ronk is much better at this than I am.

My understanding is that watering can be the cause of the fungal issues and you need to be watering in the morning 2-3x/week for a total of 1-1.5" of total water per week, but it isn't the solution by itself depending on what you are dealing with.

From my research from the TX A&M and UF websites, once the take all rot is in the soil, its there forever. All you can do is make it so the conditions aren't right for it to show itself or spread.

Peat moss can help "cure" it by making the soil pH inhospitable to it when spread to .5" or so depth, but opinions vary as some people think it creates a spongy "thatch" layer in the soil that impacts growth later on.

If you wanted to split the difference from the experts you could probably go equal parts peat/topsoil/sand and spread to .5" and just make sure you aren't overwatering or watering too late.

From what I've read a lot of what people are dealing right now though is due to grass that greened too early, got hit with a hard freeze and when it died off it kind of looks like rot or fungus.

Reality is that if you hit it with fungicide (preventative or as a treatment), rake up the dead thatch, practice proper watering habits and add a quality top dressing you've helped the grass whether it was frost or fungus damage.
This post was edited on 5/4/23 at 10:42 pm
Posted by Puffoluffagus
Savannah, GA
Member since Feb 2009
6320 posts
Posted on 5/5/23 at 7:33 pm to
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- I’ve been bagging clippings my last two or three mows to prevent spread of weeds. Should I continue until kyllinga is under control?


Personally, I only bag on the first scalp of the year and then just mulch the clippings the rest of the year and just spot spray as needed. I don't worry too much about spreading, as once my grass thickens up it tends to choke out majority of weeds anyway.

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- It it okay to fertilize this weekend despite the Sulfentrazone spots struggling?


Yellowing is common. I guess it depends on your grass type. If you have bermuda I wouldn't hestitate at all to fertilize. Just keep up with the watering requirements though since your grass is already a little stressed.
Posted by Athletix
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Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 5/8/23 at 2:13 pm to
Looking for some answers.

I want to seed Bermuda around my pool area. Keep it cut real low to achieve the carpet affect. All the youtubers recommend Princess 77/Arden 15, but they are all out of stock and now being produced anymore. What seed would y’all go down with- south Louisiana?
Posted by Loup
Ferriday
Member since Apr 2019
14180 posts
Posted on 5/9/23 at 7:53 am to
Does anybody here have Celebration Bermuda? My backyard gets about 8 hours of sun per day. The dogs have decimated st aug and centipede. Even though I aerate yearly it gets compacted pretty quick. Was thinking of getting a pallet or two.
Posted by jpainter6174
Boss city
Member since Feb 2014
5885 posts
Posted on 5/9/23 at 2:53 pm to


Any idea what is causing these brown spots? I thought it was just from the winter and racked as much of the dead grass out as I could.

Treatment?
Posted by gatorsimz
cafe risque
Member since Feb 2009
8176 posts
Posted on 5/9/23 at 9:21 pm to
I put down St Augustine last year in the backyard. I previously had just field grass/weeds everywhere so I was a complete lawn care noob. This First year was a struggle, as I made several mistakes that caused me to over stress the lawn. Granted I didn’t do any research going into it. However, I found a good resource on YouTube (how to with Doc) that helped me turn it around.

Some things I’ve learned that had helped:

-I used Propiconazole 14.3 to defeat brown patch.
-I put down Anderson’s Humichar (bio char and humic acid) every 1-2 months. It’s definitely softened my clay soil and kept my lawn green through winter.
-I spray the lawn with liquid kelp mixture every few months


This post was edited on 5/9/23 at 9:23 pm
Posted by tide06
Member since Oct 2011
16621 posts
Posted on 5/9/23 at 10:59 pm to
quote:

Any idea what is causing these brown spots? I thought it was just from the winter and racked as much of the dead grass out as I could.

Treatment?

Try sticking a screw driver into it when it hasn't rained in a few days. If it doesn't easily go in you probably have compacted soil or a lot of clay.

Has the yard ever been aerated? Reason I ask is the grass is growing sideways and is thin which usually means either fungal issues or compacted soil.

Its also possible your grass woke up, got frost damage and is now trying to recover.
Posted by PillageUrVillage
Mordor
Member since Mar 2011
15323 posts
Posted on 5/10/23 at 9:34 am to
Can I get an ID on this? I thought it was St Aug but I’ve never seen it with dark red stolons like this.


ETA: This is in a dead spot where I spot sprayed some dallisgrass with roundup last fall.

Further research leads me to believe it’s carpetgrass.
This post was edited on 5/10/23 at 10:06 am
Posted by BallsEleven
Member since Mar 2019
6163 posts
Posted on 5/10/23 at 1:37 pm to
quote:

Looking for some answers.

I want to seed Bermuda around my pool area. Keep it cut real low to achieve the carpet affect. All the youtubers recommend Princess 77/Arden 15, but they are all out of stock and now being produced anymore. What seed would y’all go down with- south Louisiana?


I got my princess 77 from Hancock Seed. One of their suggestions for alternatives is Yukon Bermuda which looks like another good variety.
Posted by ronk
Member since Jan 2015
6936 posts
Posted on 5/10/23 at 6:34 pm to
That is carpetgrass. Celsius will take care of it. Mostly likely two treatments.
Posted by ronk
Member since Jan 2015
6936 posts
Posted on 5/10/23 at 6:34 pm to
That is pretty spot on.
Posted by jpainter6174
Boss city
Member since Feb 2014
5885 posts
Posted on 5/11/23 at 3:40 pm to
Ronk, any opinion on my St Augustine brown patches? Pics above...
Posted by ronk
Member since Jan 2015
6936 posts
Posted on 5/11/23 at 5:24 pm to
It could have been take all patch or winter injury. If it was take all it doesn't look active so there isn't a need to treat for it. If you are in South Louisiana the 5 day average soil temperature is 77 so you should start to see some good growth. If you look at turf grass models they are just now entering the growing season.

I'd put a thin layer of peat moss and hit it with a good 20ish% N fert if you haven't done so already.
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
Aberdeen,NC
Member since Jul 2009
126221 posts
Posted on 5/11/23 at 9:55 pm to
Anyone here ever dethach their centipede lawn ?

Most of my sod has passed it’s two year mark and I’ve definitely gave it way too much fertilizer the first year and half with weed and feeds. I had no idea at the time or new nothing really about lawn care back then.
This post was edited on 5/11/23 at 10:18 pm
Posted by jordan21210
Member since Apr 2009
13894 posts
Posted on 5/12/23 at 4:21 pm to
Quick question, hoping for a quick answer:

Safe to mix Scott’s DiseaseEX and Scott’s Ultrafeed and apply in one go or will I nuke my lawn?
Posted by Puffoluffagus
Savannah, GA
Member since Feb 2009
6320 posts
Posted on 5/12/23 at 8:59 pm to
You won't burn your yard per se. But they have different granule sizes, so mixing them you'll likely just end up with uneven dispersion of the product, particular the disease ex since the granules are so small.
Posted by ghost2most
Member since Mar 2012
7483 posts
Posted on 5/18/23 at 9:10 am to
Any recs on filling in bare spots of St. Aug? Deer picked mine apart last summer and some spots didn't come back.
Posted by Lazy But Talented
Member since Aug 2011
14871 posts
Posted on 5/18/23 at 1:39 pm to
It’s time for me to fertilize again. Burmuda grass.

There is a large patch where my dog uses the bathroom and the grass is healthy as can be and is growing much quicker than other areas of the yard. I assume due to the nitrogen.

Should I not put fertilizer in this area this time around?
This post was edited on 5/18/23 at 1:40 pm
Posted by ronk
Member since Jan 2015
6936 posts
Posted on 5/18/23 at 2:43 pm to
If it is an area they always pee in then ferting with a high nitrogen fert could potentially burn the area.
Posted by Lazy But Talented
Member since Aug 2011
14871 posts
Posted on 5/18/23 at 3:37 pm to
Ok I’ll avoid putting the fert in that area and see what happens.

I guess this is why people exclusively walk their dogs instead of letting them out back.
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