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re: 2023 Lawn Thread - Helpful Tips, Q&A, general discussion
Posted on 5/20/23 at 7:55 am to StraightCashHomey21
Posted on 5/20/23 at 7:55 am to StraightCashHomey21
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Anyone here ever dethach their centipede lawn ?
Don't do it to centipede. You'll suffer severe depression if you do.
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Posted on 5/20/23 at 8:27 pm to Bayou
I'm going to overseed and I am wondering if Scotts or Pennington centipede seed at the big box stores is worth the purchase. If not where would I look for centipede seed in BR or the Hammond/Covington area.... TIA 
Posted on 5/22/23 at 8:56 am to Notro
What is this type of weed and what product do I use to get rid of it? This is burmuda in dfw.
Also, my neighbors weeds are creeping under the fence. What are these and will the same product used on the above weeds take care of them?
Also, my neighbors weeds are creeping under the fence. What are these and will the same product used on the above weeds take care of them?
This post was edited on 5/22/23 at 8:57 am
Posted on 5/22/23 at 3:32 pm to Lazy But Talented
Nutsedge in the first couple. Sedgehammer, certainty or image would take care.
Second one looks like some variety of broadleafs but the pic is a lottle fuzzy for me. Celsius or msm.
Personally, if I don't have a ton of weeds and I'm spot spraying, I'll just mix a gallon or so of sedgehammer along with celsius and surfactant and just hit them all. Usually takes care if 99% of most weeds.
Eta:
I will say though that give how sedges spread, it's sometimes better to do a broadcast spray. So if you find that you have a lot of sedges in one area you might be better off do a broadcast spray of sedgehammer alone and then spot spraying everything else with celsius. You can do a broadcast spray of celsius with sedgehammer as well, but you're more apt to get some yellowing.
Second one looks like some variety of broadleafs but the pic is a lottle fuzzy for me. Celsius or msm.
Personally, if I don't have a ton of weeds and I'm spot spraying, I'll just mix a gallon or so of sedgehammer along with celsius and surfactant and just hit them all. Usually takes care if 99% of most weeds.
Eta:
I will say though that give how sedges spread, it's sometimes better to do a broadcast spray. So if you find that you have a lot of sedges in one area you might be better off do a broadcast spray of sedgehammer alone and then spot spraying everything else with celsius. You can do a broadcast spray of celsius with sedgehammer as well, but you're more apt to get some yellowing.
This post was edited on 5/22/23 at 3:35 pm
Posted on 5/22/23 at 3:35 pm to Lazy But Talented
That is nutsedge in your pictures. Sedgehammer will take care of those. Bottom picture looks to be dog fennel, spurge, and sow thistle mostly. Sedgehammer won't touch them. MSM with surfactant for those.
Posted on 5/23/23 at 10:29 am to ronk
Thanks Puffoluffagus & ronk
Are these the correct products to get? Or do y'all recommend just going to SiteOne and asking for help?
This Celsius product says it attacks broadleaf and sedges? Would this be an option to hit all of the weeds I posted?
Are these the correct products to get? Or do y'all recommend just going to SiteOne and asking for help?
This Celsius product says it attacks broadleaf and sedges? Would this be an option to hit all of the weeds I posted?
This post was edited on 5/23/23 at 10:38 am
Posted on 5/23/23 at 11:18 am to Lazy But Talented
You really need sedgehammer plus either msm or celsius.
Celsius has some better control of certain weeds like Virginia buttonweed and doveweed. It has some effect on grassy weeds but not much on sedges. It is more expensive than msm but on a per application basis is actually pretty cheap a bottle will last you a few years. Celsius is also supposed to be less damage in high hear, but I've never had any particular issues with msm either. I tend to spray in late evening after the temps drop for the day.
Other things to consider for msm make sure you read the label and mix correctly, it's a very small amount that you mix in. Very easy to overdo it.
Also, if you don't want to spend the money on a whole bottle of herbicides you can buy individual packet mixes of sedgehammer as well as celsius now. Sedgehammer plus comes with a surfactant in it.
Eta: I get my stuff online from domyown.
My site one is too far away to be worthwhile to drive in and peruse.
Celsius has some better control of certain weeds like Virginia buttonweed and doveweed. It has some effect on grassy weeds but not much on sedges. It is more expensive than msm but on a per application basis is actually pretty cheap a bottle will last you a few years. Celsius is also supposed to be less damage in high hear, but I've never had any particular issues with msm either. I tend to spray in late evening after the temps drop for the day.
Other things to consider for msm make sure you read the label and mix correctly, it's a very small amount that you mix in. Very easy to overdo it.
Also, if you don't want to spend the money on a whole bottle of herbicides you can buy individual packet mixes of sedgehammer as well as celsius now. Sedgehammer plus comes with a surfactant in it.
Eta: I get my stuff online from domyown.
My site one is too far away to be worthwhile to drive in and peruse.
This post was edited on 5/23/23 at 11:26 am
Posted on 5/23/23 at 12:13 pm to Puffoluffagus
Thanks. Just watched a few videos.
I just ordered a packet of the sledgehammer + and a gallon pump sprayer.
Figuring out the MSM and surfactant for the broadleaf. Doesn’t look like MSM is offered in small packets
ETA: also it’s about time for another round of fertilizer. Do I need to eliminate the weeds first? How do I space out the timing between applying post emergents and fert? Does it matter?
I just ordered a packet of the sledgehammer + and a gallon pump sprayer.
Figuring out the MSM and surfactant for the broadleaf. Doesn’t look like MSM is offered in small packets
ETA: also it’s about time for another round of fertilizer. Do I need to eliminate the weeds first? How do I space out the timing between applying post emergents and fert? Does it matter?
This post was edited on 5/23/23 at 12:42 pm
Posted on 5/23/23 at 4:21 pm to Lazy But Talented
I spray for weeds when there's weeds and fertilizer when it time to fertilizer. No need to space.
Only thought is that you want to spray and let it dry. Whereas with fertilizing you want to apply and water it in. So just space appropriately based on that.
Only thought is that you want to spray and let it dry. Whereas with fertilizing you want to apply and water it in. So just space appropriately based on that.
Posted on 5/26/23 at 9:05 am to Puffoluffagus
Helpful tip - read the label 
I just purchased a new bottle of generic sedgehammer. I got out my mini-scale and measured up the correct weight (0.9g) of these tiny granules, added it to a gallon of water and a little surfactant. Sprayed an area with heavy infestation and patiently waited. My wife kept asking when it will start to work and I told her it takes a while to work. Then after 10 days, shite still green as can be. I started thinking I bought some chinese junk. Never again! I told myself.
I decided to give it one more try before going out and buying the name brand sedgehammer. Well, the seal had not been broken on the bottle. I mistakenly mixed up some MSM turf (they look alike) instead of sedgehammer. I'm an idiot. Got a good laugh at myself on that one.
I just purchased a new bottle of generic sedgehammer. I got out my mini-scale and measured up the correct weight (0.9g) of these tiny granules, added it to a gallon of water and a little surfactant. Sprayed an area with heavy infestation and patiently waited. My wife kept asking when it will start to work and I told her it takes a while to work. Then after 10 days, shite still green as can be. I started thinking I bought some chinese junk. Never again! I told myself.
I decided to give it one more try before going out and buying the name brand sedgehammer. Well, the seal had not been broken on the bottle. I mistakenly mixed up some MSM turf (they look alike) instead of sedgehammer. I'm an idiot. Got a good laugh at myself on that one.
Posted on 6/1/23 at 11:31 am to Lazy But Talented
I've seen people mention MSM Turf a few times. It doesn't say to use it on centipede, but I thought I saw people here say to. Should I or should I not use MSM Turf on my centipede?
Thanks to those of you contributing to this board and these threads. Much appreciated that y'all take the time to answer questions for people like me
Thanks to those of you contributing to this board and these threads. Much appreciated that y'all take the time to answer questions for people like me
Posted on 6/2/23 at 3:20 pm to lsugrad35
You can us MSM on centipede. It is MSMA you can't use.
Posted on 6/3/23 at 7:13 pm to ronk
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You can us MSM on centipede.
THIS
Posted on 6/6/23 at 9:31 am to Puffoluffagus
Figured I'd post here because the garden thread didn't get a response...
I have a hibiscus that I really really want to keep alive but something is going on with it. It was blooming like crazy but now one of the three main branches has died. Completely dried up and had some black coloring on the inside. It's in the ground, not potted.
No idea what killed that section. I'm debating adding some pesticide/insecticide but I don't want to do it if it doesn't need it. So frustrating because this plant has a ton of sentimental value to me.
6/5 update: Wife went to a nursery and talked to someone and they just said it was damaged. She said don't use miracle grow (I did once before I noticed one part dying) because there's too many nutrients. Also to watch the water. Not sure what that even means. Going to try back when their actual botanist is there and try another nursery. Google doesn't help. Like I say, this one has a lot of sentimental value so I'm trying.
I have a hibiscus that I really really want to keep alive but something is going on with it. It was blooming like crazy but now one of the three main branches has died. Completely dried up and had some black coloring on the inside. It's in the ground, not potted.
No idea what killed that section. I'm debating adding some pesticide/insecticide but I don't want to do it if it doesn't need it. So frustrating because this plant has a ton of sentimental value to me.
6/5 update: Wife went to a nursery and talked to someone and they just said it was damaged. She said don't use miracle grow (I did once before I noticed one part dying) because there's too many nutrients. Also to watch the water. Not sure what that even means. Going to try back when their actual botanist is there and try another nursery. Google doesn't help. Like I say, this one has a lot of sentimental value so I'm trying.
Posted on 6/7/23 at 5:04 am to iwyLSUiwy
Sounds like some type of root rot. I would suggest replacing it, but if it has sentimental value, by all means try to save it.
Make sure the soil drains well and do not overwater. More plants die of too much water than the lack of...
Garden Phos is a systematic fungicide that can help in some cases. It might be worth a shot.
Make sure the soil drains well and do not overwater. More plants die of too much water than the lack of...
Garden Phos is a systematic fungicide that can help in some cases. It might be worth a shot.
Posted on 6/7/23 at 3:57 pm to sosaysmorvant
I'm pretty sure I've over watered it. We have gotten a ton of rain up here and I've watered on non rainy days at times. I'm sure I wasn't helping. I'll read up on Garden Phos
Posted on 6/8/23 at 7:22 am to Puffoluffagus
How do I stop my St Aug from seeding? I’ve read it can mean the lawn is stressed or mowing too high.
Seed heads are mostly in the front yard which faces East and some full sun areas in the backyard. Watering 3x’s per week and mowing once a week at 4” mow height (trying to smother out Bermuda). Should I bring the mow height down to 3” for a bit?
Seed heads are mostly in the front yard which faces East and some full sun areas in the backyard. Watering 3x’s per week and mowing once a week at 4” mow height (trying to smother out Bermuda). Should I bring the mow height down to 3” for a bit?
Posted on 6/9/23 at 8:51 am to jordan21210
quote:
mowing once a week at 4” mow height (trying to smother out Bermuda). Should I bring the mow height down to 3” for a bit?
I'd keep it at 4. Better for St Aug and not as much the Bermuda.
This post was edited on 6/9/23 at 8:52 am
Posted on 6/9/23 at 9:22 am to Puffoluffagus
quote:
Other Soil amendments
Does anyone here have any experience or opinions on products like TheAndersons HumiChar or regular liquid humic acid products? Is this stuff snake oil or do they actually make a difference.
My yard is centipede sod that was laid October 2022 in new construction. Despite the hard freezes, it's finally starting to fill in the spots that got nuked by the freeze. All things considered, yard is doing very decent, just wondering what an amendment like the ones listed above would do.
Posted on 6/19/23 at 8:14 am to RaginRampage
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Does anyone here have any experience or opinions on products like TheAndersons HumiChar or regular liquid humic acid products? Is this stuff snake oil or do they actually make a difference.
I haven't seen any difference short term.
Not saying it doesn't help longer term, but I would expect it to be a multi-year process to improve soil quality rather than a quick hit visual difference.
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