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Posted on 8/23/23 at 7:48 am to
Posted by LSUJuice
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Posted on 8/23/23 at 7:48 am to
Well...
After some research, they need to be 80-85 degrees and humid for 2 weeks. Not too difficult this time of year. Despite Mrs. Juice's eye rolls, I put them in a box in the corner of our shower that's up against the SW corner of our house that's always a couple degrees warmer than the rest of the house. Added a bowl of water in there to keep them humid. First time doing this, so we'll see how it goes
This post was edited on 8/23/23 at 8:02 am
Posted by PillageUrVillage
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Posted on 8/23/23 at 8:56 am to
Gotta do what ya gotta do.
Posted by ChenierauTigre
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Posted on 8/23/23 at 10:15 am to
IF, and that's a big if, mine produce anything, I am going to put them in my greenhouse with a damp towel over them and hope that works. But first the temps need to come down or they will cook in there. I have never grown sweet potatoes, and I am trying it in a giant pot. We'll see.
Posted by AlxTgr
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Posted on 8/23/23 at 10:33 am to
I just started some pepper seeds(5 varieties-I think) from a variety pack in those little seed starter pots one can find at Walmart. I don't really have any expectations for this year-it's more of a practice thing since I am a newb at almost all that is gardening. I am a believer in learning by doing
Posted by gumbo2176
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Posted on 8/23/23 at 2:34 pm to
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I just started some pepper seeds(5 varieties-I think) from a variety pack in those little seed starter pots



Not sure where you are, but with fall coming up in a couple months, those pepper plants won't like weather if it gets cold where you are located.

All my pepper plants do very well during the heat of summer so I get them in the ground no later than April.
Posted by bluemoons
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Posted on 8/23/23 at 3:16 pm to
Man it has been hell getting motivated to do anything for the fall with this heat. The idea that bow season starts in 5 weeks is completely foreign to me.

I've still got my peppers going from spring but haven't planted anything for the fall. I'm going to focus on building my permanent garden and filling it to get ready for spring.

Unrelated to vegetables, this heat has been complete hell on some of my landscape plants. I've lost 4 radicans gardenias over the last couple of weeks. I don't plan to replace them until it cools off a bit. Can't wait for some better weather.
Posted by AlxTgr
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Posted on 8/23/23 at 3:30 pm to
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Not sure where you are, but with fall coming up in a couple months, those pepper plants won't like weather if it gets cold where you are located.

Yeah, like I said, this is mostly practice.

quote:

All my pepper plants do very well during the heat of summer so I get them in the ground no later than April.


I still have both jalapeno and bells making from my spring plantings, but those were store bought. I really haven't done anything from seed before, and I bought these too late for spring. I also bought a paste tomato variety pack that I will plant for next year. Hoping I learn from this to do better next spring.
Posted by gumbo2176
Member since May 2018
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Posted on 8/23/23 at 4:25 pm to
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Hoping I learn from this to do better next spring.



This is what I get in the ground from starter pots in the early spring, and by early spring I mean by mid-March after any threat of freezing weather is gone. I'm in N.O. by the way.

Tomatoes
Bell and several different hot peppers
Eggplant, both Ichiban and the regular purple variety

These are the seeds I sow directly in the ground at that time.

Cucumbers
Pole and bush beans
Soy Beans used for Edamame
Zucchini and Yellow Squash
Kale
Swiss Chard


And around mid to late April, I get in the okra seeds.

I've got five rows 50 ft. long and 2 trellises, both 6 ft. tall by about 20 ft. long and one raised bed 4 x 12 x 1 ft. deep.
Posted by ChenierauTigre
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Posted on 8/23/23 at 6:05 pm to
When I moved to NW Florida from Louisiana (where you could plant a turd in the ground and it would sprout a plant), I had to learn how to grow stuff by experimentation. Here, if they say plant it in full sun, you will fry it. So partial sun is where it needs to go. Even okra gets angry in full sun.

Same with the climate. Planting spinach or lettuce in February means it will bolt quickly and you'll get nothing. Last year I planted spinach in late December, and grew the best spinach I have ever grown.
Posted by PillageUrVillage
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Posted on 8/23/23 at 7:27 pm to
quote:

I had to learn how to grow stuff by experimentation.


Been growing a garden for at least 15 years and I’m still experimenting.
Posted by LSUJuice
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Posted on 8/23/23 at 8:46 pm to
Why don't you grow your kale and chard over winter? That would give you more space for all that other stuff in March.
Posted by gumbo2176
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Posted on 8/23/23 at 9:39 pm to
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Why don't you grow your kale and chard over winter? That would give you more space for all that other stuff in March.




I do grow it from fall through winter and into early spring but prefer fresh plants for the warmer weather.

I've got the room.
Posted by LSUJuice
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Posted on 8/24/23 at 2:03 am to
Gotcha. Do you notice a difference in flavor between the cool season greens vs warm? I always assumed the warmer the weather, the more bitter the taste.
Posted by gumbo2176
Member since May 2018
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Posted on 8/24/23 at 7:23 am to
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Do you notice a difference in flavor between the cool season greens vs warm? I always assumed the warmer the weather, the more bitter the taste.



Not so much with Swiss Chard, but a bit with Kale and definitely with things like collard greens that really mellow out in flavor once a cold snap hits.

I grow collards in my fall/winter garden and they get better once the temperatures get to the 40's or under at night.
Posted by Capt ST
Hotel California
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 8/26/23 at 1:01 pm to
Just picked a bucket of purple hills. Sweet Jesus it’s warm out there
Posted by PillageUrVillage
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Posted on 8/26/23 at 1:40 pm to
Looking like we’ll get a tiny bit of relief next week. More than just lower temps, I desperately need rain!
Posted by ChenierauTigre
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Posted on 8/26/23 at 7:13 pm to
Well, I am feeling like a jerk today. I sentenced some swiss chard plants to certain death because they need to go into the garden. I put a patio umbrella over them and tried to block most of the sun with cardboard. But I still feel sorry for them.
Posted by PillageUrVillage
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Posted on 8/29/23 at 7:17 am to
With the overcast and cooler weather yesterday, my pumpkins look like they have sprung back to life. I've been irrigating the crap out of them over the past few weeks. But the excessive heat just hasn't been allowing them to thrive and they haven't been putting out near as many flowers. Hopefully that turns around with the cooler weather.

Looks like this coming weekend will have chances of rain for me. I think I'm going to get some cabbage seeds in the ground. I'm going to need to start looking for carrot seeds as well.

Once again, hot and dry weather decimated my strawberries. I'll have to talk to my local garden center and see when they'll start taking orders for bare root plants. I've almost always been able to keep them things alive throughout the summer. But these past 2 years it seems like there was nothing I could do to keep them alive.
Posted by ChenierauTigre
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Posted on 8/29/23 at 6:32 pm to
Dang. I have 6 strawberry plants in pots to give away and nobody wants them.
Posted by Perse
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Posted on 8/30/23 at 3:23 pm to
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Dang. I have 6 strawberry plants in pots to give away and nobody wants them.



Have you tried setting them out on the curb or end of the driveway with a FREE sign?



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