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re: 2023 Fall Garden Thread

Posted on 8/14/23 at 8:33 am to
Posted by PillageUrVillage
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Posted on 8/14/23 at 8:33 am to
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How many are you getting per vine?


I have no idea. They were just kinda running wild.

I wasn't culling any at first. But the last couple of weeks I was because I was ready to finish harvesting the bigger melons and pull them up. I couldn't tell you if it made a difference in the size.

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I'm optimistic about my squash. I planted Acorn Squash in the spring and none of the fruit ever set. They all got fuzzy and fell off. I sprayed copper fungicide on my current squash, hopefully it works


Pumpkins are doing the same for me. Last year when I had that problem I did a lot of reading and youtube watching to see if that was normal. The explanation that made the most sense to me was how one person described it. Basically squash makes a lot of "practice" fruit before you finally get a good one. When the plant is able to sustain fruit development, and all the conditions are right, you'll start getting viable female flowers.

I think the extreme heat is definitely delaying things here for me. Squash can handle high temps, but it has its limits.
Posted by CarRamrod
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Posted on 8/17/23 at 1:06 pm to
Hey so i planted watermelon's months ago and no flowers ever set fruit.. patch got all over grown with weeds and watermelons and when i went ot pull everything out i found 2 small melon. Seems really late to me. But on to my question. How can i get more pollinators to my patch and garden? this past spring i had sunflowers and zinnias planted but i never saw any bugs except for those leaf footed bugs.
Posted by PillageUrVillage
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Posted on 8/18/23 at 6:21 am to
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when i went ot pull everything out i found 2 small melon. Seems really late to me.


They have plenty of time to develop. Let em ride.

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But on to my question. How can i get more pollinators to my patch and garden? this past spring i had sunflowers and zinnias planted but i never saw any bugs except for those leaf footed bugs.


That’s been a huge focus of mine from the start. Going as far as putting a beehive directly on my property. I don’t know if there’s anything you can do to give instant results. But I’ve found that over time I’ve seen an increase in native pollinators just by having a water source close by, planting for year round flowering, and avoiding synthetic insecticides whenever possible.
Posted by Loup
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Posted on 8/18/23 at 8:52 am to
I seeded about 50 big jim peppers and put them on the dehydrator this morning. I did a trial run with 2 or 3 and the powder tastes great. Was running out of things to do with them.
Posted by PillageUrVillage
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Posted on 8/18/23 at 9:11 am to
That reminds me, I still have a gallon of cayenne peppers in the freezer. I need to make another batch of hot sauce. I have a new food processor coming in this weekend and that would be perfect for it's trial run.

Man, this darn heat wave needs to break. I'd like to start some cabbage seeds soon. I'm gonna wait until we at least start getting some rain again. This summer is ridiculous.
Posted by Loup
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Posted on 8/18/23 at 9:31 am to
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That reminds me, I still have a gallon of cayenne peppers in the freezer. I need to make another batch of hot sauce. I have a new food processor coming in this weekend and that would be perfect for it's trial run


Which one did you go with?
Posted by CarRamrod
Spurbury, VT
Member since Dec 2006
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Posted on 8/18/23 at 9:32 am to
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just by having a water source close by
is a pool good enough? yea if i lived on more land id love to do a beehive but right now my wife would kill me if i did that.
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planting for year round flowering
give me some examples... i have space and empty pots all over i can plant in.
Posted by Loup
Ferriday
Member since Apr 2019
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Posted on 8/18/23 at 10:30 am to
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give me some examples


Black and blue salvia. It comes back from rhizomes every year. There aren't many pests that eat the leaves. There's hummingbirds and bees all over mine.

Coneleaf cutflower. Blooms in the fall. Kind of takes over, though.

Zinnias are cheap and easy to grow. They'll reseed themselves but it's also easy to save the seeds.

Cockscomb

Bee balm

Pineapple sage

I have all of these in my back yard and they're pretty easy to deal with.
Posted by PillageUrVillage
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Posted on 8/18/23 at 10:59 am to
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salvia.


I have some white salvia and the bees are all over them. I also try to keep zinnias, lantana, and verbena growing. Most of the flowering plants come from my vegetable garden.

That's a good list, Loup. I'll add camelias to it. They bloom over the winter months and the bumblebees love them.

Natives are always a great choice. You might consider something like swamp sunflowers which bloom late summer and into the fall. Swamp milkweed is also a good choice. Butterfly weed, oakleaf hydrangea, American beautyberry should all do well in south LA climate.
Posted by PillageUrVillage
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Member since Mar 2011
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Posted on 8/18/23 at 11:06 am to
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Which one did you go with?


Well, yesterday I was set on getting the Cuisinart 14 cup model. I was also considering the Ninja BN601. But I thought I'd have more versatility with the Cuisinart even though the Ninja had some features that I preferred. I also didn't like that the feed chute was so small on that Ninja model.

Before I pulled the trigger I just did a little more looking around and then I came across the Ninja NF701. Which is more like the Cuisinart. Had all of the features I was looking for and none of the downsides of the smaller model. So I pulled the trigger on that one. The fact that it was about $50 cheaper helped sway me a little.

I hope it works out well.
This post was edited on 8/18/23 at 11:10 am
Posted by Loup
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Member since Apr 2019
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Posted on 8/18/23 at 11:22 am to
Curious to see how it works as well. I'm still using a blender and a mini Cuisinart so I need to upgrade next year.
Posted by CarRamrod
Spurbury, VT
Member since Dec 2006
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Posted on 8/18/23 at 11:47 am to
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That's a good list, Loup. I'll add camellias to it.
I have my grandfathers gavel from when he was president of the Camellia Society.
This post was edited on 8/18/23 at 11:48 am
Posted by PillageUrVillage
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Posted on 8/18/23 at 8:51 pm to
The sugar pie pumpkins are coming along nicely. Here’s some pics from this afternoon.





I think my XL pumpkins are on the verge of giving me something. They’re putting out lots of female flowers and hopefully I’ll see a viable one soon. I am currently having an aphid problem, though. Im gonna have to get on top of that. At least the vine borers seem to be in check.

Speaking of, here’s a look inside my trap. Haven’t checked it in a while and was quite surprised!
Posted by Loup
Ferriday
Member since Apr 2019
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Posted on 8/18/23 at 10:02 pm to
Howd you make the trap? I saw my first vine borer today on my desi squash.


The pumpkins look awesome! I should have planted some, my wife spends $50 on them every year for thr front porch. It could actually be cost effective.
Posted by PillageUrVillage
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Posted on 8/19/23 at 7:20 am to
It’s one like this. Hollandsgiants link

I bought mine on Amazon. I can’t find it there anymore. Mine is all green which is supposedly to help prevent accidental bee trapping. Never had a bee in mine. I’ve been buying extra lures from the website above.

ETA: The trap only attracts and kills the male moths, though. It’s mostly just an indicator that they are active in the garden. But hey, fewer males to mate with the females can’t be a bad thing. At least that’s my thinking.
This post was edited on 8/19/23 at 7:35 am
Posted by Longer Tail Tiger
Member since Dec 2019
185 posts
Posted on 8/19/23 at 9:31 am to
Those are very beautiful Sugar Pie pumpkins, especially taking into account the extremely hot, dry, difficult growing conditions during which those pumpkins were grown.
Posted by LSUJuice
Back in Houston
Member since Apr 2004
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Posted on 8/21/23 at 6:24 am to
Okra is really coming along nicely.




Butternut squash is ok. Really had trouble getting it going in this heat. This is the only viable fruit so far. Honestly I'm surprised there's even this one.



And starting to dig up some nice sweet potatoes too! Got about a dozen so far. Need to just mow the greens so it'll be easier to find the rest.

Posted by Loup
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Member since Apr 2019
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Posted on 8/21/23 at 10:06 am to
I'm starting to what I'm guessing are small vine borers on some of the leaves of my squash. They're eating through the stalk and the leaf droops. I cut it off and discard. I have a few Desi squashes growing. Looks like some of the scallops might set but too early to tell.
Posted by PillageUrVillage
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Posted on 8/22/23 at 6:28 am to
Your okra plants look really healthy and those are some beautiful sweet potatoes!

Looking at the forecast for my area, we may have some relief in sight! Lower temps (still hot, though) and some rain in the forecast next week!

If we can start getting some regular rain I’ll be trying to maybe get some cabbage started.
Posted by ChenierauTigre
Dreamland
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 8/22/23 at 9:14 am to
What method do you use for curing the sweet potatoes, Juice?
Beautiful okra!
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