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re: 2023 Fall Garden Thread

Posted on 7/30/23 at 5:36 am to
Posted by Capt ST
Hotel California
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Posted on 7/30/23 at 5:36 am to
Friend of mine here in BR grows the Cucuzzi. They get huge, cut 1 in half and made 2 meals out of it.
Posted by bamarep
Member since Nov 2013
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Posted on 7/30/23 at 8:37 am to
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Idk how they will produce this fall but stuck these in dirt a couple of weeks ago and kept damp. They're growing.




You can also stick them in a 20oz drink bottle with water in it and they'll root out pretty quickly.
Posted by bovine1
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Posted on 7/30/23 at 8:52 am to
It's still to early to plant here but getting close. I'm planting collards, kale, sugar snaps, parsley, mustard, turnips, chard, and endive.
Posted by Fishwater
Carcosa
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Posted on 7/30/23 at 9:15 am to
Going to try pumpkins, Brussels sprout, and carrots in Coastal Alabama. Will report updates.

What is the best variety of pumpkin to grow for Baldwin County, Alabama? Planting today or this week upon recommendations.
This post was edited on 7/30/23 at 10:52 am
Posted by PillageUrVillage
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Posted on 7/31/23 at 11:51 am to
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What is the best variety of pumpkin to grow for Baldwin County, Alabama?


What growing zone is that, and what kind of pumpkins do you want to grow (cooking or carving)? I’d imagine just about any pumpkin will grow well In Alabama.
This post was edited on 7/31/23 at 11:54 am
Posted by Fishwater
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Posted on 7/31/23 at 6:41 pm to
Zone 8b / 9a. Right on the line.

Carving / decorative pumpkins.
Posted by Loup
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Posted on 8/1/23 at 6:37 am to
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Friend of mine here in BR grows the Cucuzzi. They get huge, cut 1 in half and made 2 meals out of it.



I'm pretty excited about them. They've been in the ground 2 or 3 weeks and the plants are already huge. How does your friend cook them? I have some snake beans which are an Indian edible gourd and they were pretty good sauteed.
Posted by PillageUrVillage
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Posted on 8/1/23 at 6:49 am to
I’m in 9a also. I only have experience growing Connecticut Field (last year) and they did very well. This year I’m growing Sugar Pie, Captain Jack, and Gold Medal. The Sugar Pie’s are kicking arse. I have about 7 pumpkins growing already.

The larger sizes don’t yield near as many and take much longer to produce. I’d try to find an early variety at this point. I wanted to plant Early Giant, but I couldn’t find any seeds in stock. I still can’t. But in your growing zone you shouldn’t have a problem growing pretty much any type as long as you can keep the pests at bay. If it weren’t for squash bugs and vine borers, squash/pumpkins would be one of the easiest things to grow.
Posted by skidry
Member since Jul 2009
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Posted on 8/1/23 at 10:52 am to
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have about 7 pumpkins growing already.

When did you plant?
Posted by tigerfoot
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Posted on 8/1/23 at 10:52 am to
Im going to try carrots, beets, mustard and collards, maybe some leaf lettuce.
Posted by PillageUrVillage
Mordor
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Posted on 8/1/23 at 11:04 am to
Late June sometime. I tried to start a little early this year mainly for the large pumpkins because I barely made it in time for Halloween last year.
Posted by Devious
Elitist
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 8/1/23 at 11:08 am to
Will be pulling all the stakes up from spring, busting up the ground, tilling, and getting my soil sample to send to LSU soon.

Not much going on for the fall...okra already producing, and I'll add broccoli, carrots, lettuce, cabbage, and maybe English peas.
Posted by TDTOM
Member since Jan 2021
14580 posts
Posted on 8/1/23 at 12:16 pm to
When should one plant for tomatoes, cucumbers and squash?
Posted by gumbo2176
Member since May 2018
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Posted on 8/1/23 at 12:25 pm to
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Im going to try carrots, beets, mustard and collards, maybe some leaf lettuce.



Have you ever grown beets before? If not, you will get the seed packet with gnarly looking seeds in it and you plant them. They are actually little clusters of seeds and when the seedlings break ground they will do so in small clusters.

They can be separated and spaced accordingly after they get a few inches tall.

Lettuce seeds are so damn tiny that you will wind up planting them way too close in the row. The good thing is, lettuce plants do survive quite well when transplanted to proper spacing. Again, let them get to 3-4 inches tall and go to work.

Get a small trowel and dig down next to the plants to loosen them for transplanting----never just pull them out the ground. Just be sure to keep the transplants well watered until they recover.
Posted by gumbo2176
Member since May 2018
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Posted on 8/1/23 at 1:00 pm to
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When should one plant for tomatoes, cucumbers and squash?



Early spring---as early as possible decided by the last frost date. My cucumbers and tomatoes were done by mid June.

In the fall, it depends on what growing zone you're in. Cucumbers and squash can be direct sown in the ground for the best results is my experience. Get those in the ground now and keep them watered, but it's still a crap shoot with the heat. Here in N.O. it stays hot until October.

Tomatoes can be started in starter pots and transplanted when about 6 inches tall, but if you're in S.E. La. it's too damn hot to put new transplants in the garden right now. I'd wait until mid September at the earliest to transplant. Start them now but keep them out the direct sun and keep them well watered.

Tomatoes don't do well when it gets cold and one or two long nights of frost will usually knock the plant down enough to kill it. Then you make fried green tomatoes and salsa verde with the unripe tomatoes.

There's a lot of varieties of squash for the fall/winter garden and I'd go with those for better success.
Posted by TDTOM
Member since Jan 2021
14580 posts
Posted on 8/1/23 at 1:13 pm to
I am in Lafayette. I don't grow anything from seeds. I just buy the little potted plant and throw it in the ground.
Posted by gumbo2176
Member since May 2018
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Posted on 8/1/23 at 1:39 pm to
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I just buy the little potted plant and throw it in the ground.



I only do that for certain things when buying a pack of seeds is not very practical. Things like tomatoes, bell and hot peppers, cauliflower, cabbage, broccoli I tend to buy in 4 or 6 packs already started.

Most everything else I buy in seed and direct sow in the ground. Cucumbers go on a 20 ft. long trellis as do pole beans. Beets, lettuce, kale, Swiss Chard, spinach, etc. are also directly sown.
Posted by PillageUrVillage
Mordor
Member since Mar 2011
14792 posts
Posted on 8/1/23 at 8:45 pm to
Got a new addition for the garden. Been wanting one of these.


Pumpkins are making progress.


Normally I’d have more to say, but I had a rough day and have been drinking.
Posted by TeddyPadillac
Member since Dec 2010
25628 posts
Posted on 8/2/23 at 7:55 am to
are you guys planting stuff this week in SLA?
It seems way too hot and try to put anything in the ground right now, unless you're going to water it 3-4 times a day.
Posted by PillageUrVillage
Mordor
Member since Mar 2011
14792 posts
Posted on 8/2/23 at 9:16 am to
Not right now. Usually around mid-August I'd be starting broccoli, cauliflower, and cabbage seeds. I think I'm going to wait until September to start the cabbage. Not growing the other 2. Mid-September is when I usually start carrots. But nothing right now. Just trying to keep the pumpkins going.

I'm about to rip the watermelon out. Waiting on about a half dozen to get ripe. I've been pruning off the smaller ones. I think we have had about enough watermelon for the summer.

ETA: You could start cucumbers and fall tomatoes right now if you'd like. You'd probably want to try to get fall tomatoes in the ground before the end of the month.
This post was edited on 8/2/23 at 9:24 am
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