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re: 2023 Fall Garden Thread

Posted on 8/2/23 at 10:31 am to
Posted by AlxTgr
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Posted on 8/2/23 at 10:31 am to
Just got a paste tomato and pepper variety pack off etsy. Never done a lot with seeds before other than romas.
Posted by TeddyPadillac
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 8/2/23 at 11:22 am to
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ETA: You could start cucumbers and fall tomatoes right now if you'd like. You'd probably want to try to get fall tomatoes in the ground before the end of the month.




that's what i'm talking about. seems like it would be rough for them with this heat and lack of rain though.
I"m not doing my carrots/potatoes/broccoli/brussel sprouts/lettuce until much later.
Posted by ApisMellifera
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Posted on 8/2/23 at 9:49 pm to
What’s the best way to get rid of weeds before fall planting? Both of my beds have been taken over and I need to clear them asap then amend my soil.
Posted by PillageUrVillage
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Posted on 8/3/23 at 8:04 am to
Glyphosate
Posted by ApisMellifera
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Posted on 8/3/23 at 8:18 am to
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Glyphosate


I'm trying to avoid that. Was debating solarization but I've never tried it before.
Posted by TeddyPadillac
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Posted on 8/3/23 at 8:59 am to
what kind of weeds?
Posted by PillageUrVillage
Mordor
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Posted on 8/3/23 at 9:06 am to
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I'm trying to avoid that


I completely understand that. I try to avoid using chemicals as much as possible. You did say ASAP. Short of hand picking all the weeds, glyphosate is your best bet to get rid of them quickly. Sure, overuse could degrade the soil over time. But for the most part it binds to the soil quickly and is broken down by microorganisms to quickly become inert. It is one of the recommended weed control methods by LSU AgCenter.

Soil solarization takes 4 to 6 weeks.

There is an alternative. It's basically salt, vinegar, and dish soap. You could try that if you'd like.

Vegetable Garden Weed Management with Ron Strahan
This post was edited on 8/3/23 at 9:15 am
Posted by Loup
Ferriday
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Posted on 8/3/23 at 9:28 am to
I have some lil watermelons!

Posted by ApisMellifera
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Posted on 8/3/23 at 11:22 am to
quote:

what kind of weeds?


Everything

quote:

You did say ASAP.


Yeah you got me there lol.

I guess I meant more of I need to start ASAP. I know the full solarization process takes a while but I'm wondering if I can do a shortened method to kill the active weeds now and then hopefully by the time I start to plant for fall, the cooler conditions limit my new weeds popping up until I can do a full solarization next year.

I try to limit my glyphosate use because of my bee hives unless absolutely necessary (which does occasionally happen).
Posted by TeddyPadillac
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Posted on 8/4/23 at 2:38 pm to
so i cut some pieces off of my tomato plants and stuck them in a cup of water in the window. roots came out a lot faster than expected. only took about 5 days.

I was going to just plant them upright in the ground now, which would seem like the common sense thing to do, but someone told me you are supposed to cut off the top and only leave it about 6" long from the roots, with no shoots coming out of those 6" and then plant it horizontally in the ground. That just seems silly to me.
Anyone else heard of this?
Posted by gumbo2176
Member since May 2018
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Posted on 8/4/23 at 4:13 pm to
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It seems way too hot and try to put anything in the ground right now,



I agree. I just came back inside from doing something I hardly ever have to do, and that was to water my okra plants. They are very drought and heat tolerant, but with no rain for a couple weeks now in the N.O. area, they were starting to show wear and tear.

So I dropped the hose between the rows and let the water flow to saturate the ground and give them some relief.

I know nothing would do well if in the ground as a new plant in my back yard right now. It is well over 100 at ground level every day for hours on end. My back yard gets full sun from sunup until late in the afternoon before the shadow of my 2 story house starts creeping across the yard.
Posted by PillageUrVillage
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Posted on 8/4/23 at 7:14 pm to
I’ve been running my irrigation every 2 days. It’s been nice not to have to worry about fungal disease associated with hot and wet weather. But some rain sure would be nice!
Posted by Mr Sausage
Cat Spring, Texas
Member since Oct 2011
12803 posts
Posted on 8/4/23 at 11:45 pm to
I’m about ready to call my spring garden done. Haven’t gone to the garden in alittle under a week and the ridiculous heat, grasshoppers, and gopher has nuked the peanuts, sweet potatoes, and any beans I planted. I did cut the heads off the dried sunflowers, have some peppers, black eyed peas, and watermelons still going.
Posted by LSUJuice
Back in Houston
Member since Apr 2004
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Posted on 8/5/23 at 9:31 pm to
My spring garden is long gone, but my summer plantings are doing ok. Just put up a cattle panel so the Butternut squash can climb. The first round has poor germination, so have a few more in soil blocks. Okra on the right is looking great, hopefully will start to see flowers soon.



Sweet potatoes doing well too. Should be 2-3 weeks away from harvest. Eggplant on the other hand is struggling. Working on replacements in soil blocks for them too, but the heat is tough on them.



Fall plan is to harvest the sweets over a couple months and replace them with broccoli and cauliflower in October.

Okra gets replaced with carrots in November.

Eggplant gets replaced with spinach.

Butternut gets replaced with onions early December.

Posted by Loup
Ferriday
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Posted on 8/6/23 at 7:11 am to
Squirrels got my eggplant :(

Posted by meeple
Carcassonne
Member since May 2011
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Posted on 8/6/23 at 7:21 am to
quote:

Fall plan is to harvest the sweets over a couple months and replace them with broccoli and cauliflower in October.

Okra gets replaced with carrots in November.

Eggplant gets replaced with spinach.


Do you grow all of this from seed ?
Posted by LSUJuice
Back in Houston
Member since Apr 2004
17673 posts
Posted on 8/6/23 at 7:23 am to
My two eggplants that survived germination and transplant are still struggling. I think it's flea beetles. The replacements I seeded are just slow to get going. I thought eggplants were really good in the heat, but I guess they've just gotta be more established first. I'll have to rethink them for next year.

Meeple yes I start all from seed in soil blocks, so the dates listed above are transplant dates for when I expect to harvest their predecessor and free up garden space. (The carrots have to be direct sown.)
This post was edited on 8/6/23 at 7:27 am
Posted by PillageUrVillage
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Posted on 8/6/23 at 8:29 am to
Good morning from the garden. Still no rain, so running the irrigation again.

Foreground in this picture is the sugar pie pumpkins. They are doing very well.


Lots of bees out this morning. One big bumblebee landed on my coffee cup for a few seconds. I can just about imagine how most people would’ve reacted to that. But I wanted to pet it. The sugar pie pumpkins are getting bigger and bigger, and I think I’ve counted at least 9 this morning!



What’s left of the spring/summer garden. The purple hulls are looking almost spent. But they’re still producing. Peppers are doing just fine and I may leave them through the fall. I see no need to grow anything else in that spot. And I’m waiting for about a half dozen watermelon to finish up and then I’m pulling them. We’ve been giving a bunch away and have had just about enough of them.


I need to get in there and prune some of the older dying leaves off of the Gold Medal and Captain Jack pumpkins. Still no fruit from them yet. I looked back at my pictures from last year and I didn’t get my first Connecticut Field pumpkin started until the 2nd week of September. Hopefully I get one sooner than that with these.


It actually feels pretty good outside this morning. In the shade, at least. There’s a nice breeze blowing. The bees are still busy doing their thing. I need to open them up soon and check on them, but I also don’t want to catch heat stroke. So maybe it can wait.
Posted by ChenierauTigre
Dreamland
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 8/6/23 at 3:34 pm to
Something bored holes into four of my small cantaloupes. I am furious. I have one big one left. I wrapped it in screen and hope I can limp it along until it ripens.
Posted by gumbo2176
Member since May 2018
15158 posts
Posted on 8/7/23 at 1:49 pm to
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I wrapped it in screen and hope I can limp it along until it ripens.




Is it really worth the trouble? You can get ripe ones at the store for around $2.50 or less most of the time.
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