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Why is my HR so high on easy runs?

Posted on 5/25/21 at 7:35 am
Posted by Ingeniero
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 5/25/21 at 7:35 am
Got back into it about a month ago. My HR will creep up to around 175bpm once I get to the mile mark and will stay there for the rest of the run. Not overweight at all, pretty experienced runner back in the day but I've never done HR based training. Once I finish my run it'll drop to about 100bpm pretty quickly, then creep down to resting (55-60bpm) from there

Do I just have a naturally high heart rate while exercising? Or do I need to maintain a training program a little longer before I start judging HR?
This post was edited on 5/25/21 at 7:53 am
Posted by OysterPoBoy
City of St. George
Member since Jul 2013
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Posted on 5/25/21 at 7:43 am to
What pace are you running?
Posted by Ingeniero
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 5/25/21 at 7:51 am to
8:45-9:00 easy pace
Posted by steve123
Member since Jul 2011
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Posted on 5/25/21 at 8:17 am to
Without more info, I’m only guessing here but based on my experience it could be the following:
1) It’s getting warmer outside quickly. Heart rate will get elevated more quickly in hotter temperatures.
2) The more likely culprit, though, in my opinion, is you may not have spent a ton of time training in an aerobic zone as opposed to an anaerobic zone. I remember when I started HR monitor training, what felt like an “easy” pace was actually not slow enough. I was just so used to running at about 80% of my max HR that I didn’t realize how much I had to slow down to stay in that <70% aerobic zone. Once you start spending more time in the aerobic zone, after a few months, you will notice that it takes a lot more effort to get your heart rate elevated.

I’d try jogging slower than you are - maybe by as much as 30 seconds to a minute per mile. Spend most of your training in that zone with one interval/anaerobic run per week. See if that helps. Just my guess.
Posted by jimbeam
University of LSU
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 5/25/21 at 8:23 am to
Run slower
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
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Posted on 5/25/21 at 8:37 am to
quote:

8:45-9:00 easy pace


That's not that slow of you just started.
Posted by AyyyBaw
Member since Jan 2020
1051 posts
Posted on 5/25/21 at 8:50 am to
quote:

steve123


Agree with #2 as the most likely reason.
Posted by FlyinTiger93
Member since May 2010
3567 posts
Posted on 5/25/21 at 9:05 am to
2 months of grinding it out in zone 2. You may not want to admit it, but your body is out of shape. When I restart, I have to go so slow that I can walk faster. Suck up your pride and commit to zone 2. You will see your speed pick up in month 3.
Posted by Walter White
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Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 5/25/21 at 9:40 am to
Curious to know—for those who do/have done HR based training, what’s the difference like during the summer months compared to cooler times? Are you seeing a big difference? It always amazes me how much the heat and humidity affects my pace & endurance.
Posted by FlyinTiger93
Member since May 2010
3567 posts
Posted on 5/25/21 at 10:01 am to
Zone training was developed for just that. Keeps your heart from overworking in adverse conditions. Had a friend that was a professional triathlete that developed a heart condition from over training in summer months. Switched to heart rate training, and still competes, but at the age group level. Your heart rate increases dramatically with temperature, so you have to slow down. You're still putting in the work.

Also, switch to running a fixed number of minutes, rather than focusing on pace. Much more efficient, and you tend to focus less on having an off day.
Posted by quail man
New York, NY
Member since May 2010
40905 posts
Posted on 5/25/21 at 10:57 am to
Just to add on to what others have said, if your HR monitor is on your wrist, it's unlikely to be as accurate as a chest strap. So if you really want to do HR training, then get a chest strap.

That said, everything others said here I agree with. You are going way too fast. Even if you ran sub 7 in HS, if you are just starting after years off, you need to be running 9-10 minute miles to keep the HR sub 150. I just ran a sub-4 hour marathon in November and had to take a few months off for injury and my pace is closer to 930 to keep it sub 150 in 75+ degree temps.
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
25455 posts
Posted on 5/25/21 at 10:59 am to
quote:

Just to add on to what others have said, if your HR monitor is on your wrist, it's unlikely to be as accurate as a chest strap


Plenty of validation on wrist worn straps these days. It's not 2005
Posted by FlyinTiger93
Member since May 2010
3567 posts
Posted on 5/25/21 at 11:35 am to
My Fenix 6x Pro is pretty damn close. I tested it both ways, and did not see a larger enough difference to justify the chest strap.
Posted by BurtReynoldsMustache
Member since Sep 2010
4837 posts
Posted on 5/25/21 at 11:36 am to
quote:

Got back into it about a month ago.


How long were you off? What is getting back into it? Daily? Once a week? Twice... more?



Posted by Ingeniero
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2013
18249 posts
Posted on 5/25/21 at 11:42 am to
quote:

How long were you off?

From running, 2+ years. From what I'd consider competitive level running, 5ish years. I was doing a good bit of cycling (70ish miles per week, long ride of 30 miles) since the beginning of covid though

quote:

What is getting back into it? Daily? Once a week? Twice... more?

10-15 miles a week, longest run being ~4 miles. All easy pace.

To those asking, I've compared my 245 and my wahoo chest strap and they're pretty close.
This post was edited on 5/25/21 at 11:45 am
Posted by FlyinTiger93
Member since May 2010
3567 posts
Posted on 5/25/21 at 11:49 am to
Try heart rate training on the bike, too. You have to work a lot harder than you think to raise your heart rate.
Posted by jimbeam
University of LSU
Member since Oct 2011
75703 posts
Posted on 5/25/21 at 12:00 pm to
quote:

easy pace
Its not an “easy pace” for your cardiovascular system if your HR is basically at the very upper end of tempo zone, or even above.

It may feel easy on your legs, but oxygen flow would suggest otherwise.
Posted by Walter White
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Member since Sep 2012
3111 posts
Posted on 5/25/21 at 12:17 pm to
Are most of your runs at 150 bpm and below?
Posted by ks_nola
Philly
Member since Sep 2015
493 posts
Posted on 5/25/21 at 12:20 pm to
So many variable to this equation, and some of the information you've provide is vague and or subjective. You stated "not overweight at all", "easy pace", prior running you "considered at competitive level", and "cycling". All of these things play into your question but all vary from one person to next so it just seems like your current expectation after 2+years off is just not realistic. Unless you're in your early 20's or just a superior athlete give it 4-6 months and give us an update. you'll probably get better feedback and most likely give others something to think about that may help them at the same time.
Posted by jimbeam
University of LSU
Member since Oct 2011
75703 posts
Posted on 5/25/21 at 12:22 pm to
About 70% of my running is at 155 or less. (I’m using the MAF # + a few per his recommendations). I’m shooting to get that number to 80%. I have definitely seen my pace drop with the heat.
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