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re: Teen supplements & creatine use
Posted on 5/21/26 at 9:38 pm to lowhound
Posted on 5/21/26 at 9:38 pm to lowhound
quote:This is crazy. There is a lot of research coming out showing the benefits of creatine supplementation all the way down to infants.
He's asking if he can take some creatine gummies. I think he's still too young
My 7 yr old is taking 1.5g a day and I do it strictly for brain health and preservation more than anything else
Posted on 5/21/26 at 9:57 pm to lsu777
Can you elaborate on the studies you’ve found regarding this and what type of dosage? I’ve been trying to research but not finding much when it comes to preteen adolescents. Extremely interested in the brain health portion but also for athletic benefits. This would be for a 12yo it it matters.
Posted on 5/21/26 at 11:07 pm to RedBeardBaw
Creatine is absolutely safe. If you don't believe it spend an hour on google and YouTube.
My tips- I am a HS S&C coach, have a degree, etc. Its my life to build kids.
My oldest son is 12 has been doing types of lifting and work since he was real little. All 3 of my kids are athletes. They play sports, lift, (my 9yo daughter even competes in kids strongman comps and BJJ).
Tips that may help- I meal prep almost everything in advance for me and the kids. They will eat way more quality food if they can pull stuff out and immediately eat it when hungry vs waiting or needing takeout. Buy them all the whole milk they will drink.
I love Animal Pak Multivitamin. I started buying the powdered form years ago. I mix one ish serving in the am and the kids take "shots" of it.
My son is super lean but tall, we've really struggled to get mass on him. We finally found a mass gainer shake he loves Mutant Mass. He drinks a double scoop with a shake full of whole milk every night. Has put on 10lbs in about 4 months doing this.
Creatine is great. Go with whatever your kids like- powder, flavor, whatever.
I don't encourage or let my Freshman and younger athletes take pre-workout. Obviously can't control their lives, but I can at school. The older kids I just try the best I can to educate them on caffeine, etc. And what they're doing to their system if they go overboard at a young age.
My tips- I am a HS S&C coach, have a degree, etc. Its my life to build kids.
My oldest son is 12 has been doing types of lifting and work since he was real little. All 3 of my kids are athletes. They play sports, lift, (my 9yo daughter even competes in kids strongman comps and BJJ).
Tips that may help- I meal prep almost everything in advance for me and the kids. They will eat way more quality food if they can pull stuff out and immediately eat it when hungry vs waiting or needing takeout. Buy them all the whole milk they will drink.
I love Animal Pak Multivitamin. I started buying the powdered form years ago. I mix one ish serving in the am and the kids take "shots" of it.
My son is super lean but tall, we've really struggled to get mass on him. We finally found a mass gainer shake he loves Mutant Mass. He drinks a double scoop with a shake full of whole milk every night. Has put on 10lbs in about 4 months doing this.
Creatine is great. Go with whatever your kids like- powder, flavor, whatever.
I don't encourage or let my Freshman and younger athletes take pre-workout. Obviously can't control their lives, but I can at school. The older kids I just try the best I can to educate them on caffeine, etc. And what they're doing to their system if they go overboard at a young age.
This post was edited on 5/21/26 at 11:08 pm
Posted on 5/21/26 at 11:18 pm to RedBeardBaw
All I'm going to say is that unless a kid has some underlying health issue, there's really no reason to be concerned about giving them creatine.
As everyone noted, it's the most researched supplement ever and they are still learning about positive benefits of taking higher doses.
While 5g will be enough performance wise, the higher dose benefits for bone and brain health are being noted. While more studies are needed, creatine supplementation is showing signs of improving cardiovascular health, too. It's also being studied for slowing the progression of Parkinson's.
All that to say, give those kids some creatine. And encourage your parents to take it, too.
As everyone noted, it's the most researched supplement ever and they are still learning about positive benefits of taking higher doses.
While 5g will be enough performance wise, the higher dose benefits for bone and brain health are being noted. While more studies are needed, creatine supplementation is showing signs of improving cardiovascular health, too. It's also being studied for slowing the progression of Parkinson's.
All that to say, give those kids some creatine. And encourage your parents to take it, too.
Posted on 5/22/26 at 7:34 am to lsu777
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so actually the younger you are the more you get from creatine from a brain development standpoint. older adults (60+) and younger pre-teen and teenagers benefit the most as their brains are developing or losing capacity(older adults)
from a performance benefit, there is not real age limit but 14 is about perfect time to take advantage of the ability to regenerate atp.
Where are you getting this information? I'm not trying to be a smartass, but I'd like to read up on it more to better understand it.
Posted on 5/23/26 at 4:54 pm to lowhound
Skip the gummies. Just get creatine powder.
Electrolytes are only needed when you are sweating a ton and you are having to drink sever liters of water to stay hydrated.
Proper fueling before, during, and after workouts isn't just about performance but aids in recovery.
Electrolytes are only needed when you are sweating a ton and you are having to drink sever liters of water to stay hydrated.
Proper fueling before, during, and after workouts isn't just about performance but aids in recovery.
Posted on 5/25/26 at 7:58 am to lowhound
My 8 and 11 year old boys take it daily. Both wrestle and play football.
Posted on 5/26/26 at 7:43 am to lowhound
going to give a run down on all of this quickly, sorry for late response, i dont get on here really outside of working hours
performance & cognitive in relation to sport
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Elite Youth Soccer Study: A study published in the Journal of the International Society of Sports Nutrition by Yáñez-Silva et al. (2017) tracked elite youth soccer players taking a low dose over a short period. It demonstrated substantial increases in maximal muscle power output.
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Adolescent Basketball Players: A randomized, open-label trial by Vargas-Molina et al. (2022) observed young basketball players during an 8-week strength and conditioning program. The creatine group showed significantly improved vertical jump tests and scoring efficiency over the control group with zero negative side effects.
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Technical & Cognitive Skills in Basketball: A 2025 trial looking at acute creatine loading in adolescent basketball players found that it significantly improved sports-specific technical skills (like dribbling and passing accuracy) and reduced internal fatigue under complex, dual-task conditions.
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Swimmers and Rugby Players: Multiple smaller randomized controlled trials (RCTs) involving youth swimmers and rugby players have documented a 5% to 15% improvement in short-burst sprint times, repeated-sprint power, and anaerobic exercise capacity
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The 13-Study Systematic Review: A comprehensive review highlighted by Nationwide Children's Hospital analyzed 13 distinct publications tracking 268 adolescent subjects (mostly soccer players and swimmers). The analysis found that concerns regarding acute adverse effects in healthy youth have largely been eliminated.
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The Renal and Hepatic Safety Review (2026): A systematic review published in Cureus examined randomized trials and long-term cohort studies tracking adolescents taking 2g to 10g daily for up to 32 weeks. The data showed no clinically meaningful adverse changes in serum creatinine, kidney filtration rates (eGFR), liver enzymes, or blood pressure.
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Physiological Markers: Two key clinical evaluations led by Deminice et al. investigated blood oxidative stress markers and metabolic adjustments in young athletes, concluding the supplement does not trigger systemic cellular stress
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Posted on 5/26/26 at 8:18 am to lsu777
Decent summary of a lot of the studies, not all but a lot
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here are some articles that go over the studies on brain health and creatine. Up front, the amount of research on this is very limited and you will need to draw your own conclusions. I will say for teens, if they eat a lbs or more of red meat a day and sleep 8+ hours, prolly not going to benefit as much but i would rather have too much than too little considering all the benefits and no real negative side effects other than making your wallet lighter. in terms of dosing, I found a couple studies a while back that looked at higher dosing effects on the brain and crossing the brain barrier. I didn't see it just now in my quick research, ill see if i can maybe find it later
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I only listed studies, not articles, you can google the articles. just ask AI to give you links to all information about creatine and teens etc
and as always, if you dont feel comfortable giving your kid creatine dont. Now dont be like Tim Brando and say they shouldnt because you are an old frick who refuses to learn anything new, but if you dont want to, dont.
but in short....there is zero reason other than money, that a healthy teen participating in sports shouldnt be taking 5g a day minimum.
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Traumatic Brain Injury (TBI): An open-label RCT tracking 39 children and adolescents (ages 1 to 18) with traumatic brain injuries gave participants 0.4 g/kg/day of creatine for 6 months. Published data in PMC showed it significantly reduced post-traumatic amnesia, headache duration, dizziness, and fatigue while improving overall cognitive recovery.
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Studies by Banerjee et al. observed kids with Duchenne Muscular Dystrophy. Taking 5g daily over 8 weeks safely increased their intramuscular phosphocreatine-to-phosphate ratio, helping to support cellular energy in wasting muscles.
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Sleep Deprivation Mitigation: According to clinical findings on PMC, when young people are subjected to 36 hours of total sleep deprivation, executive brain function severely drops. Giving participants creatine beforehand successfully buffered the brain's frontal cortex, allowing them to maintain accurate decision-making and spatial awareness.
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Sleep Deprivation Mitigation: According to clinical findings on PMC, when young people are subjected to 36 hours of total sleep deprivation, executive brain function severely drops. Giving participants creatine beforehand successfully buffered the brain's frontal cortex, allowing them to maintain accurate decision-making and spatial awareness.
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Acute High-Dose Restoration: A recent 2024 trial published in Nature demonstrated that a single high dose of creatine could temporarily reverse the cognitive processing speed deterioration and mental fatigue caused by acute oxygen or sleep deficits
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here are some articles that go over the studies on brain health and creatine. Up front, the amount of research on this is very limited and you will need to draw your own conclusions. I will say for teens, if they eat a lbs or more of red meat a day and sleep 8+ hours, prolly not going to benefit as much but i would rather have too much than too little considering all the benefits and no real negative side effects other than making your wallet lighter. in terms of dosing, I found a couple studies a while back that looked at higher dosing effects on the brain and crossing the brain barrier. I didn't see it just now in my quick research, ill see if i can maybe find it later
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Creatine Supplementation: More Is Likely Better for Brain Bioenergetics, Health and Function
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Overall, there has been a paradigm research shift from CrM for skeletal muscle benefits to its potential to improve brain bioenergetics, health and function. Although there is evidence that brain creatine levels are responsive to exogenous supplementation, emerging evidence demonstrates that higher and/or longer dosing strategies may be required. However, the optimal protocol is unknown. Higher doses of CrM have provided some benefits in older adults with AD, young adults undergoing sleep deprivation, in children and adolescents experiencing TBI, and in those experiencing depression.
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I only listed studies, not articles, you can google the articles. just ask AI to give you links to all information about creatine and teens etc
and as always, if you dont feel comfortable giving your kid creatine dont. Now dont be like Tim Brando and say they shouldnt because you are an old frick who refuses to learn anything new, but if you dont want to, dont.
but in short....there is zero reason other than money, that a healthy teen participating in sports shouldnt be taking 5g a day minimum.
This post was edited on 5/26/26 at 12:30 pm
Posted on 5/26/26 at 11:00 am to lsu777
Thank you. That's the kind of thing I'm looking for, better information than some random guy posting on YouTube.
Posted on 5/26/26 at 12:37 pm to lowhound
you are welcome
for future reference the easiest way for most that are not use to search for studies to find them is
ask ai
please give me summaries and links to studies on the effects of ______ on teens in terms of _____ and ______. please summarize any health concerns or any particular items we should be watching in terms of side effects
so you could ask...
please give me summaries and links to studies on the effect creatine has on teen boys in terms of performance, muscle growth and cognitive effects. Please give me a summary of any concerns and a summary of any side effects I should be watching for. After you have reviewed all of the available literature, can you please give me a recommendation if you feel I should give it to my 16 year old athlete who is currently 5'10 205 lbs.
and it will give you all the info. i prefer grok or claude then chatgpt or gemini.
another good resource is examine.com
but in general to summarize creatine.... it is the most studied supplement in history and we are still finding benefits of taking it everyday.
its safety profile is unmatched and despite 30 years of research, unfortunately myths like it causes dehydration, it can cause kidney issues etc still persist. Also its not something you really feel working other than the first time usually, it just kind of works in the background building muscle and replenishing ATP. so you will have guys on X say i noticed nothing and most of those guys are juiced to the gills or peptided out so kind of hard to notice
for future reference the easiest way for most that are not use to search for studies to find them is
ask ai
please give me summaries and links to studies on the effects of ______ on teens in terms of _____ and ______. please summarize any health concerns or any particular items we should be watching in terms of side effects
so you could ask...
please give me summaries and links to studies on the effect creatine has on teen boys in terms of performance, muscle growth and cognitive effects. Please give me a summary of any concerns and a summary of any side effects I should be watching for. After you have reviewed all of the available literature, can you please give me a recommendation if you feel I should give it to my 16 year old athlete who is currently 5'10 205 lbs.
and it will give you all the info. i prefer grok or claude then chatgpt or gemini.
another good resource is examine.com
but in general to summarize creatine.... it is the most studied supplement in history and we are still finding benefits of taking it everyday.
its safety profile is unmatched and despite 30 years of research, unfortunately myths like it causes dehydration, it can cause kidney issues etc still persist. Also its not something you really feel working other than the first time usually, it just kind of works in the background building muscle and replenishing ATP. so you will have guys on X say i noticed nothing and most of those guys are juiced to the gills or peptided out so kind of hard to notice
Posted on 5/26/26 at 1:12 pm to lowhound
Creatine is safe even at his age. Skip the gummies. Go with creatine monohydrate capsules and make sure he take an appropriate dose.
He wont pack on muscles just because of it, but it does have a multitude of benefits.
He wont pack on muscles just because of it, but it does have a multitude of benefits.
This post was edited on 5/26/26 at 1:14 pm
Posted on 5/26/26 at 2:37 pm to caro81
Nothing of value to add to the "creatine is safe, effective, and desirous" as those are my beliefs.
But my 18-year-old just got diagnosed with testicular cancer (and had to have one removed), and the amount of people (including my wife) telling me that it might be due to him being on creatine from a young age is about to drive me up the wall.
But my 18-year-old just got diagnosed with testicular cancer (and had to have one removed), and the amount of people (including my wife) telling me that it might be due to him being on creatine from a young age is about to drive me up the wall.
Posted on 5/26/26 at 6:23 pm to lsu777
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say i noticed nothing and most of those guys are juiced to the gills or peptided out so kind of hard to notice
Posted on 5/27/26 at 7:56 am to hogfly
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But my 18-year-old just got diagnosed with testicular cancer (and had to have one removed), and the amount of people (including my wife) telling me that it might be due to him being on creatine from a young age is about to drive me up the wall.
sorry to hear about your kid and yea that would drive me up the wall too.
god forbid you have enough and ask them to show the mechanism in which creatine can cause cell proliferation in the testes. then they are going to get mad at you.
Posted on 5/27/26 at 10:07 am to lsu777
Thanks for the sympathy. Post-op scans tomorrow to, hopefully, verify that nothing spread. Even if it did, it's highly treatable but would definitely not by the summer he was looking forward to if we're dealing with chemo/radiation, especially since he has a once-in-a-lifetime scholarship trip scheduled to go fly fishing in Honduras in July.
And yeah, the correlation does not equal causation argument just can't be emphasized enough. Yes, there is a limited study that indicates that some creatine users (who were also using a ton of other supplements besides creatine) have had higher incidents of cancer... but the study repeatedly says that there's no causal link between actual creatine use and cancer.
And yeah, the correlation does not equal causation argument just can't be emphasized enough. Yes, there is a limited study that indicates that some creatine users (who were also using a ton of other supplements besides creatine) have had higher incidents of cancer... but the study repeatedly says that there's no causal link between actual creatine use and cancer.
Posted on 5/27/26 at 12:15 pm to hogfly
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Yes, there is a limited study that indicates that some creatine users (who were also using a ton of other supplements besides creatine) have had higher incidents of cancer... but the study repeatedly says that there's no causal link between actual creatine use and cancer.
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC4575580/
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This study provides compelling evidence that both low and high doses of creatine supplementation, given either acutely or chronically, did not cause increases in the carcinogenic HCAs PhIP, 8-MeIQx, IFP and 4,8-DiMeIQx in healthy subjects. These findings challenge the long-existing notion that creatine supplementation could potentially increase the risk of cancer by stimulating the formation of these mutagens.
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This experimental condition effectively allowed us to distinguish any potential effect of creatine supplementation (low/high and acute/chronic regimens) from that of the regular diet on HCA formation. Interestingly, HCAs were detected at quantifiable levels in six participants only. Since these cases were evenly distributed among treatments (each intervention arm), we can safely conclude that supplementary creatine does not contribute to HCA synthesis in humans. These results directly contrast with the recently suggested biological plausibility for the association between creatine use and risk of testicular germ cell cancer (Li et al. 2015).
I’ve read the study you are talking about and basically they lumped creatine in with other MSB’s (Muscle Building Supplements). It was like 30 different supplements, including androstenedione. This is the type of crap that gives you google search results like this:
Most people don’t bother to read any further than that and draw conclusions from it, unfortunately.
I am sincerely hoping for the best outcome for your son. I am sorry to hear of it. He will be in my prayers.
This post was edited on 5/27/26 at 12:19 pm
Posted on 5/31/26 at 1:59 pm to PrezCock
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gummy
Saturation and uneven dosage aside, look at the ingredients in even the unsweetened gummies and ask why you would want to put unnecessary stuff in your body on a daily basis.
Posted on 5/31/26 at 2:39 pm to s0tiger
I agree. Powdered creatine is the way to go, creapure is best. Like I said in my original post. As why anyone would go the gummy route, it's on them. Perhaps they hate the grittiness of creatine monohydrate, or the acidic taste of creatine HCl and prefer the gummies. As long as your getting 5-10 grams a day, on average, the manner in which a person consumes it is their own preference.
Posted on 5/31/26 at 5:04 pm to PrezCock
My comment wasn't aimed at you, just pulled the last gummy reference I saw to add my perspective about all the unnecessary ingredients in the things we consume.
I have stenosis in my upper and lower back causing nerve pain, knee issues from two injuries and subsequent surgeries and other chronic pain that was becoming unbearable. A few months ago I cut almost all processed food and all added sugar/sweeteners out and I feel 20 years younger. I try not be the annoying evangelist, but it opened my eyes to how bad all the additives are.
I have stenosis in my upper and lower back causing nerve pain, knee issues from two injuries and subsequent surgeries and other chronic pain that was becoming unbearable. A few months ago I cut almost all processed food and all added sugar/sweeteners out and I feel 20 years younger. I try not be the annoying evangelist, but it opened my eyes to how bad all the additives are.
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