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Sleep supplements and routines

Posted on 7/8/24 at 9:36 am
Posted by Ignignokt
Member since Dec 2005
3459 posts
Posted on 7/8/24 at 9:36 am
Anyone have trouble going to sleep and have had success with either supplements or something else?

My issue is that my mind is going 100mph and it takes me a good while to get to sleep. I'm usually in bed at a decent time, don't really drink and try to limit screen time before then. I've tried the following combos about an hour before going to bed, but it's not entirely effective. I am also a light sleeper.

Melatonin - I think I have a tolerance to this now.
Magnesium
Ashwagandha
L-theanine

I've also tried Delta-9 CBD and it seems to help somewhat, but those are expensive.

Any guidance would be appreciated.
Posted by bamaguy17
Member since Jul 2022
1208 posts
Posted on 7/8/24 at 9:42 am to
Reading an actual book has seemed to help me this past month. When everyone goes to bed, I read about 30 mins and then go to bed. I fall asleep pretty quickly. I also prep everything for the next day, just so I'm not tempted to stress about something.
Posted by GeorgeTheGreek
Sparta, Greece
Member since Mar 2008
67851 posts
Posted on 7/8/24 at 9:54 am to
How much sun are you getting during the day? Particularly in the morning and how active are you?
Posted by Ignignokt
Member since Dec 2005
3459 posts
Posted on 7/8/24 at 10:00 am to
I am pretty active. Work out around 3-4 times a week which includes getting outside for a walk or run.
Posted by Britlab
Nashville
Member since Jan 2014
348 posts
Posted on 7/8/24 at 10:02 am to
Magnesium has helped me.
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
59752 posts
Posted on 7/8/24 at 10:07 am to
Magnesium
GABA
Glycine
Posted by Homey the Clown
Member since Feb 2009
5924 posts
Posted on 7/8/24 at 10:08 am to
Trazodone FTW baby!
Posted by h0bnail
Member since Sep 2009
7585 posts
Posted on 7/8/24 at 10:41 am to
quote:

Trazodone


Works well for me too and no noticeable side effects.
Posted by BawtHouse
Member since Dec 2021
416 posts
Posted on 7/8/24 at 10:54 am to
Sleep supplements should be viewed as one tool in a wider arsenal. Good sleep hygiene should be the larger overarching focus and goal. Remove sources of stimuli from your bedroom. No tv for example. Do not get in bed until you are ready to go to sleep. Do not play on your phone once in bed. Once in bed, go to sleep. Leave phone charging outside your reach and put in sleep mode. Focused breathing and slowly counting backward from 100 helps get to sleep once in bed(if you get to 10 start over at 100).

Plan to use more energy so your brain sends stronger signals that the body needs rest. Exercise. Cut back on carbs late in the day and stop eating 2-3 hours before sleep time.

Getting in bed later is ok if you get to sleep faster. The idea is to condition your body to go to sleep(and enter REM) much faster once in bed.

Research sleep hygiene and best practices for more info. Track everything you do throughout the day and challenge yourself to adjust or remove things that are hurting your ability to sleep. Adding a supplement should be the very last thing you do after behavioral modification. Frequently a supplement is not needed once good sleep hygiene is achieved.
Posted by pwejr88
Red Stick
Member since Apr 2007
37043 posts
Posted on 7/8/24 at 11:49 am to
Heard a sleep doctor talk one time about a new prescription with a 90+% success rate.




Laughter.
He said winding down in the evening watch, read, or do something that creates laughter. The effects are way beyond a pill.
This post was edited on 7/8/24 at 11:50 am
Posted by Rendlo
Member since Jun 2024
593 posts
Posted on 7/8/24 at 3:45 pm to
Magnesium and L Theanine are the only two things that I know work for me. That and not eating 2 hours or less before I go to sleep.
Posted by ronricks
Member since Mar 2021
9689 posts
Posted on 7/8/24 at 5:56 pm to
I didn’t get squat off l theanine even at 600mg

I’m still using ZMA supplement + 70mg melatonin. Works like a charm.
Posted by TDFreak
Coast to Coast - L.A. to Chicago
Member since Dec 2009
8135 posts
Posted on 10/1/24 at 5:30 am to
quote:

Heard a sleep doctor talk one time about a new prescription with a 90+% success rate.
quote:

He said winding down in the evening watch, read, or do something that creates laughter. The effects are way beyond a pill.
You know, say I’m way off base, but it used to be that a lot of people would watch The Tonight Show or Letterman right before shutting off the lights.It would come on right after the nightly news in the 10 o’clock hour. Lots of laughs.
Posted by pwejr88
Red Stick
Member since Apr 2007
37043 posts
Posted on 10/1/24 at 6:15 am to
Very good point. Even with movies made today… we’ve gotten away from laughter and I think we underestimate its power.
Posted by txpurpleandgold
Member since Nov 2005
1056 posts
Posted on 10/1/24 at 9:21 am to
What dosage?
Posted by DarthRebel
Tier Five is Alive
Member since Feb 2013
23137 posts
Posted on 10/1/24 at 10:36 am to
quote:

70mg melatonin


Does it even come that strong?
Posted by tke_swamprat
Houma, LA
Member since Aug 2004
10512 posts
Posted on 10/1/24 at 11:57 am to
Magnesium and 2oz of bourbon.

Delta 8/9 make me have cotton mouth so bad! Much rather just hit a vape if I want to get high.
Posted by Homey the Clown
Member since Feb 2009
5924 posts
Posted on 10/1/24 at 12:35 pm to
I am prescribed 50mg, but most of the time I just take a half.
Posted by txpurpleandgold
Member since Nov 2005
1056 posts
Posted on 10/1/24 at 12:58 pm to
Thanks. Like an hour before bed?
Posted by litenin
Houston
Member since Mar 2016
2523 posts
Posted on 10/1/24 at 1:23 pm to
Usually Magnesium a few hours before bed. Melatonin right before bed once or twice per week.

I like to watch light comedies right before bed when possible. Psych, Derry Girls, Schitt’s Creek, etc.
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