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Pain management doctors are absolutely useless

Posted on 9/11/26 at 6:36 pm
Posted by JasonDBlaha
Woodlands, Texas
Member since Apr 2023
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Posted on 9/11/26 at 6:36 pm
I’ve been dealing with a disc protrusion in the lower back for several months now and I’ve gone to three different orthopedic surgeons. I consistently told all of them that the pain absolutely sucks and is taking a huge toll on my quality of life. Everything has gone down; my mental health, my mobility, my sanity, etc. Yet they didn’t even seem sympathetic to that in the slightest.

As soon as I admitted to them that I wasn’t feeling any neurological symptoms like numbness, tingling, or foot drop, they all immediately dismissed me and sent me to a pain management physician. It’s like they don’t even really give a shite about how much pain you’re feeling and only if you’re feeling a specific subset of worst-case scenario symptoms that they’ll offer surgery.

The PM&H doctor gave me a spinal epidural and it did absolutely frick all to alleviate the pain. She said let’s do another one in several months and I was like nope. And she was unwilling to give any other medications besides strong NSAIDs. Absolutely no opioid prescriptions despite the fact that I’m clearly a chronic case.

Anyone dealt with this?
This post was edited on 9/11/26 at 6:46 pm
Posted by TheOcean
#honeyfriedchicken
Member since Aug 2004
46899 posts
Posted on 9/11/26 at 6:46 pm to
Tried weed?
Posted by JasonDBlaha
Woodlands, Texas
Member since Apr 2023
5376 posts
Posted on 9/11/26 at 6:53 pm to
Didn’t help and gave me terrible panic attacks
Posted by PrezCock
Florida
Member since Sep 2019
958 posts
Posted on 9/11/26 at 7:21 pm to
If you are still in Woodlands, try these places...

Finish First Injury Prevention Specialist
Regen Electro

To be honest I know nothing of these places, but they use the same technology that I use. And the tech I use would help a ton. If you are in Tampa, I would gladly treat you.

Now this is important, ask for Neufit treatment. It is a form of Direct Current Electrical Stimulation. It's a game changer, especially for your symptoms.

I hope this helps.
Posted by TheOcean
#honeyfriedchicken
Member since Aug 2004
46899 posts
Posted on 9/11/26 at 7:27 pm to
Why not just bullshite and say you're feeling numbness, etc? Sounds like you need surgery
Posted by JasonDBlaha
Woodlands, Texas
Member since Apr 2023
5376 posts
Posted on 9/11/26 at 7:28 pm to
So just bullshite and lie to the surgeon? I don’t know about that
Posted by JasonDBlaha
Woodlands, Texas
Member since Apr 2023
5376 posts
Posted on 9/11/26 at 7:33 pm to
I’m in the Woodlands area but thanks for listing those sources

Alternative medicine definitely has its place when allopathic medicine has failed

This post was edited on 9/11/26 at 7:34 pm
Posted by LemmyLives
Texas
Member since Mar 2019
17871 posts
Posted on 9/12/26 at 8:03 am to
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Absolutely no opioid prescriptions despite the fact that I’m clearly a chronic case

Why are you going straight to opioids like a degenerate? You likely should have gotten the cues at the pain management clinic that everyone is old and broken down, and there are multiple layers of processes trying to deter opioid seekers.

What about trying gabapentin, nortriptyline, or something similar? What about PT or a chiropractor? You can also try a non orthopedic surgeon, such as:
quote:

With a particular interest in treating musculoskeletal pain, joint pain, and obesity, Dr. Baptiste also treats adult patients for issues such as back pain, numbness in extremities, spasticity, and weight management.
(not in the Whitelands.)
Posted by The Torch
DFW The Dub
Member since Aug 2014
30953 posts
Posted on 9/12/26 at 8:12 am to
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unwilling to give any other medications besides strong NSAIDs.


Since the opioid epidemic Dr’s are scared shitless to give out the good pain killers.

It sucks for the people who actually need them.
Posted by JasonDBlaha
Woodlands, Texas
Member since Apr 2023
5376 posts
Posted on 9/12/26 at 10:16 am to
I’ve done PT and chiropractors. Neither did anything for me.

Why are you calling me a degenerate for advocating for responsible opioid use? You’ve clearly never dealt with chronic pain on a daily basis.
Posted by LemmyLives
Texas
Member since Mar 2019
17871 posts
Posted on 9/12/26 at 12:51 pm to
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You’ve clearly never dealt with chronic pain on a daily basis.

LOL. Why do you think I know what the inside of a pain management clinic looks like, and how hard they screen their clientele? Just buy them off the street or go to a nerve/spinal expert like I suggested (orthos are not nerve experts.)
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A broken heart is often harder to heal than a broken leg. Now researchers say that a broken heart can contribute to lasting chronic pain.

In a reflections column published Dec. 21 in the Annals of Family Medicine, pain experts Mark Sullivan and Jane Ballantyne at the University of Washington School of Medicine, say emotional pain and chronic physical pain are bidirectional. Painkillers, they said, ultimately make things worse.

Their argument is based on new epidemiological and neuroscientific evidence, which suggests emotional pain activates many of the same limbic brain centers as physical pain. This is especially true, they said, for the most common chronic pain syndromes – back pain, headaches, and fibromyalgia.

Opioids may make patients feel better early on, but over the long term these drugs cause all kinds of havoc on their well-being, the researchers said.

“Their social and emotional functioning is messed up under a wet blanket of opioids,” Sullivan said.

The researchers said new evidence suggests that the body’s reward system may be more important than tissue damage in the transition from acute to chronic pain.

By reward system, they are referring, in part, to the endogenous opioid system, a complicated system connected to several areas of the brain, The system includes the natural release of endorphins from pleasurable activities.

When this reward system is damaged by manufactured opioids, it perpetuates isolation and chronic illness and is a strong risk factor for depression, they said.

“Rather than helping the pain for which the opioid was originally sought, persistent opioid use may be chasing the pain in a circular manner, diminishing natural rewards from normal sources of pleasure, and increasing social isolation,“ they wrote.

Both Sullivan and Ballantyne prescribe opioids for their patients and say they have a role in short-term use.

“Long-term opioid therapy that lasts months and perhaps years should be a rare occurrence because it does not treat chronic pain well, it impairs human social and emotional function, and can lead to opioid dependence or addiction,” they wrote.

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Posted by tiger rag 93
KCMO
Member since Oct 2007
3212 posts
Posted on 9/12/26 at 5:14 pm to
I love the patient mentality like this. See one specific physician from a specific speciality and don’t agree with what they say: write off the entire specialty

Also, I completely agree with not prescribing you narcotic pain medications for a few months of discogenic back pain.

All three of those surgeons are managing you within the standard of care for discogenic back pain without radicular symptoms or neuro deficits.
This post was edited on 9/12/26 at 5:20 pm
Posted by OysterPoBoy
City of St. George
Member since Jul 2013
45828 posts
Posted on 9/13/26 at 10:30 am to
You guys are gonna make this baw start iv’ing heroin.
Posted by mtcheral
BR
Member since Oct 2008
2136 posts
Posted on 9/13/26 at 12:15 pm to
Have you tried traction or decompression?
Posted by Monday
Prairieville
Member since Mar 2013
5290 posts
Posted on 9/14/26 at 8:24 am to
My wife just went see a person who specialized in clinical bodywork and massage therapy. May not work for you, but it was almost instant relief for her. She still has a couple more visits to go, probably, but it was almost like magic.

She had talked to the spine doctor, who's only solution was to see a neurologist and then probably surgery. I think we may have elongated that timeline by fixing some tension that was causing pain and tightness from some other injury, as well as bulging discs.
Posted by Sus-Scrofa
Member since Feb 2013
11553 posts
Posted on 9/14/26 at 10:16 am to
Humans aren’t built for chronic use of opioids for chronic pain.

It starts a cycle that the human body can’t control.

Great for acute pain, not a long term solution to chronic pain.
Posted by BeachDude022
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Member since Dec 2006
36626 posts
Posted on 9/14/26 at 10:21 am to
weird. i had an epidural for my slipped discs and it all but healed them. I was getting them every 6 months for about 2.5 years and now i have almost no pain. give it more time maybe, even tho i hate to say that, but they may kick in and help.
Posted by habz007
New Orleans
Member since Nov 2007
5054 posts
Posted on 9/14/26 at 11:24 am to
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Pain management doctors are absolutely useless


This is not true necessarily. Do I like them using my fluoroscopy tables?? no…

It can be tough to find the nerve that is causing your pain. Even if they do, it’s better a qualified neuroIR doc treat and inject it. Yet still, no telling if it will contribute to next to no effect vs few weeks help vs 6 months vs beyond or nothing
This post was edited on 9/14/26 at 11:26 am
Posted by Jesco
Houston
Member since May 2022
297 posts
Posted on 9/14/26 at 12:38 pm to
I have herniated disks,L4 through S1, one was pressing on a nerve root. Gabepetin helped a lot with the pain, and physiotherapy really actually helped decompress the nerve root, reduced the pain dramatically, and my core is now so much stronger that the problem seldom resurfaces. Plus my abs have never looked better lol. But it’s true, side benefit of strict core workouts
Posted by deltafarmer
Member since Dec 2019
993 posts
Posted on 9/14/26 at 12:49 pm to
The only pain management treatment that worked for me was getting an epidural one week, then another a week later. That helped for several years. I would find someone to do that for you, then work on strengthening your core to help support your back. True accupuncture also gave me relief for some time. Physical therapy helped because of core strengthening and the use of a Ting machine. Make surgery your very last option. I finally had to do a fusion surgery and the recovery is still ongoing 8 months later.
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