re: Official Running Log/Marathon Training Thread

Last time I met with a dietitian, she gave me a fueling plan. Of course I never read it……. I’ll dig it up and post it here.

One of the best 800s I've ever watched. Super happy for Brazier, and Lutkenhaus is unreal

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Ethan Strand makes the team in a 1500 PR

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The "hey, I've run with that kid and his father!" obligatory post

Did 6 Miles today @9:00 to round out the week.

51 miles on the week, I seriously can't believe how many miles I've clocked this summer, it's unbelievable.

As for the post about liquid IV - I do something even more extreme with LMNT, it gave me bubble gut for the first few days I was taking it every day but appears to have gone down the last day or 2 (I started taking it last Monday). LMNT has given me GI issues during runs I believe, I hope by taking it every day it will relieve it, because I need it.

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Side note, any of you guys take Liquid IV after summer runs?

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I do a mix of the following after every run:
- Nutrabio Intrablast (BCAA/EAA/Hydration)
- Nutrabio Creatine Mono
- Vital Farms Collagen
- Nutrabio Supercarb (only after long runs)

I’m probably going to drop the BCAA/EAA in favor of a plain electrolyte mix since I drink a protein shake nearly everyday and eat meat…so extra BCAA/EAA is likely not necessary.

For my heart rate people:

Last Tuesday: 3 miles. HR167. Pace 10:20. Elevation 195. Avg temp 93.

Tonight: 3 miles. HR166. Pace 8:40. Elevation 215. Avg temp 81.

This is why I don’t run by pace. HR is a more effective measure of effort IMO.

I mean, I do the same thing, but in a different way

I did 4 miles sub 7 last week and had to rest between each mile.

I did 4 miles around 7 today and was able to do them without stopping.

My pace on my long runs is around 8:10 during the cooler months and 8:45 in the hotter months.

I run by relative effort though, not necessarily HR strictly. Doing it my way I've gone from:

21:23 5k to a 19:53 5k in a year and a half
48:05 10k to a 44:10 10k in a year and a half
1:46 half to a 1:35 half in a year and a half (though I believe I could actually get this much closer to 1:30 because my leg seized up at mile 8)

HR, Relative Effort, "zone 2" training works - but that being said I would never recommend it to a beginning, I feel like "zone 2" is not a great running methodology until you've been running awhile

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Do you chalk that up to the temperature being cooler?

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100%.

My tempo pace is 160-170 HR. Ramp up to that HR and hold it. Slower up hills. Faster down hills. Takes all the guess work out of it which is why I like it.

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don't check heart rate until after a run

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Same. I’d wager all of my paces are a tiny bit on the fast side vs what they should be. I just run by feel. I typically feel best between 8:50-9:20/mile and can hold avg HR around 135-145 for those runs, even in the heat.

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B.A. and Aubie would have a stroke if they saw my training

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Nah, I do relative effort because I have terrible HR drift. My average HR on Saturday for my long run was 151, and I was in the 160s for the last 8 miles and in the 170s for like the last 2.

I think there is a time and a place for worrying about that kind of stuff, but I also think it's over-prescribed to new runners, and even to runners who are not competing at the elite level for running.

I've been averaging 50 miles a week during my last two training cycles - that puts me in the top 10 in all of my running clubs on Strava, and I'm roughly HALF the mileage of someone who REALLY benefits from a pure 80/20 model zone 2 training (in my opinion)

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Race week for me and I’m not feeling confident. Bridger Ridge Run. 20 miles 6200’ gain and 8000’ loss.

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That sounds fun and brutal all at the time time, good luck!

Haven't ran all week. Accepted a job offer as a net admin, hard start of July 3rd. Quit my job July 1st. Got a call on the 2nd that there was a delay with security clearance. Got the call this week it came in, but I'll now be working 11p-7a, which i told them up front i could not do due to having no one to watch my daughter. Old job has hired my replacement, so i am out of a job and mentally in a bad spot. Going to try to get some easy miles in today to break out of this funk.