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re: Official Running Log/Marathon Training Thread

Posted on 10/14/21 at 11:10 am to
Posted by BurtReynoldsMustache
Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 10/14/21 at 11:10 am to
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10 mi at 9:52/mi pace


You cats that just come with a predetermined pace, what are you using? How do you know what paces you are supposed to run? How do you know when you are supposed to run faster when you're in good enough shape to run that specific pace? I ask because the heartbeat guys seem to have all this figured out. What are you using to determine your pace?

Secondary question. When running tempo, am I supposed to be only counting the tempo miles, or do I just say the whole run is at tempo to impress my friends?

Third question, how much faster have you all gotten when transitioning to zero drop? Is it like running way faster? Why zero drop? Super fast times?

Heart rate dudes seem to know what's up so how much faster can I go with hear rate training? I mean, I'm in like 2:2X:XX marathon shape so if I run every run slower, how do I get faster?


Just a relative newb here; running less than 4 years seriously.


Posted by Tornado Alley
Member since Mar 2012
28517 posts
Posted on 10/14/21 at 11:15 am to
I’m following the plan Walter White sent me. I was supposed to run at 9:54. Got as close as I could.

I don’t understand the rest of your post.
This post was edited on 10/14/21 at 11:16 am
Posted by hogbody
Fayetteville
Member since Oct 2008
4920 posts
Posted on 10/14/21 at 11:55 am to
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I don’t understand the rest of your post.


It’s just Burt lol
Posted by 3nOut
I don't really care, Margaret
Member since Jan 2013
32390 posts
Posted on 10/14/21 at 1:20 pm to
quote:

It’s just Burt lol




that's some drunk rage posting at 11 AM.


Posted by OysterPoBoy
City of St. George
Member since Jul 2013
44772 posts
Posted on 10/14/21 at 1:23 pm to
quote:

if I run every run slower, how do I get faster?


They say slow is smooth and smooth is fast.
Posted by hogbody
Fayetteville
Member since Oct 2008
4920 posts
Posted on 10/14/21 at 1:32 pm to
Think I’m gonna switch gears and try to run a fast half ( <1:21:00). To hell with this full stuff (I’ll still run them though)
Posted by jordan21210
Member since Apr 2009
14206 posts
Posted on 10/14/21 at 1:45 pm to
quote:

I don’t understand the rest of your post.

Think it’s just a general slamming of running gimmicks and things traditionally blamed when goal paces aren’t hit.

I sort of agree. I’m unsure the benefit of going to 0 drop or ultra minimal. I also tried heart rate training, but after a couple months realized my low heart rate pace is basically what my easy pace should have been all along. Don’t have an issue with anyone who wants to try either/or though.
Posted by BurtReynoldsMustache
Member since Sep 2010
4837 posts
Posted on 10/14/21 at 6:26 pm to
quote:

that's some drunk rage posting at 11 AM.


It's someone that's slowly realizing that people don't really want to be good, they just want to be relevant while being lousy at the sport. We talk about running fast, but rarely do anything to help with it.

So many side quests...
Posted by Aubie Spr96
lolwut?
Member since Dec 2009
44409 posts
Posted on 10/14/21 at 7:43 pm to
Posted by Aubie Spr96
lolwut?
Member since Dec 2009
44409 posts
Posted on 10/14/21 at 8:08 pm to
Took it easy on my hill run tonight after intervals last night. 5.5 miles at a 9:30 pace and average HR of 165. 600’ of climb tonight. Beers and Mexican food at the end though. Worth it.
Posted by Aubie Spr96
lolwut?
Member since Dec 2009
44409 posts
Posted on 10/14/21 at 8:22 pm to
quote:

Third question, how much faster have you all gotten when transitioning to zero drop?


I actually have gotten faster since switching. Is that bad? Should I switch back?
Posted by jimbeam
University of LSU
Member since Oct 2011
75703 posts
Posted on 10/14/21 at 9:19 pm to
5@8:30.

Pretty rough. Legs were dead
Posted by Athanatos
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2010
8190 posts
Posted on 10/15/21 at 8:15 am to
I got in 5 this morning at what my Garmin considers a nice aerobic pace.
Posted by thedentist45
Louisiana
Member since Jun 2008
568 posts
Posted on 10/15/21 at 8:50 am to
quote:

It's someone that's slowly realizing that people don't really want to be good, they just want to be relevant while being lousy at the sport


I had this exact thought about myself during a run last week. I always convince myself that I'm pushing myself hard enough. But then I finish running and I feel like I barely ran. I tell myself, "don't overdo it, you will run again tomorrow" and then I am frustrated when I run the same terrible pace.
Since that talk with myself, I have shaved over a minute and a half off of my mile pace and 3 minutes off of my two mile pace. Of course I'm tired after the run but I certainly know I was leaving WAY too much in the tank during my runs.
Posted by kballa6
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
4182 posts
Posted on 10/15/21 at 12:01 pm to
First run post marathon today. Legs felt ok, run wasn't terrible.

Original plan was to take the entire week off, but I've been beyond frustrated with work and just wanted to get out and run.
Posted by hogbody
Fayetteville
Member since Oct 2008
4920 posts
Posted on 10/15/21 at 3:51 pm to
Some inspiration from this year’s Olympic bronze medalist

Posted by jordan21210
Member since Apr 2009
14206 posts
Posted on 10/15/21 at 4:56 pm to
She’s awesome. Really solid follow on Instagram.
Posted by quail man
New York, NY
Member since May 2010
41249 posts
Posted on 10/15/21 at 6:08 pm to
She had another one yesterday about how hard it gets leading into tapering that I felt in my soul.

This week has been so tough mentally for my runs. Every one has been a challenge. I’ve really taken for granted how important it’s been for me to have my team support and not having them this week while I’m away and in my biggest mileage week has been rough. I’m nearly through it though and damn proud. Just a short little 20 miler Sunday
Posted by Aubie Spr96
lolwut?
Member since Dec 2009
44409 posts
Posted on 10/16/21 at 8:28 am to
10 miles this AM. Dusted the group this AM which is unusual for me. Start to finish never saw anyone else after about mile 3.

8:45/mile pace. Average HR 165. Only 300’ of gain today. My best 15K pace is 8:15 on a much harder course. 70 degrees when I started. 59 degrees when I ended. Wind blew hard in my face the whole way.
Posted by hogbody
Fayetteville
Member since Oct 2008
4920 posts
Posted on 10/16/21 at 9:16 am to
Getting back home finally today. Few more easy runs before getting back into workouts. Body feels recovered though pretty much
This post was edited on 10/16/21 at 9:16 am
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