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re: Official Running Log/Marathon Training Thread
Posted on 3/27/21 at 8:14 pm to jkylejohnson
Posted on 3/27/21 at 8:14 pm to jkylejohnson
That’s kind of the way I feel as well. I’m also planning to use what little “work from home” time I have left. I’m thinking we will be back in the office in a couple months. I don’t mind a good hot and sunny run at lunch time.
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Posted on 3/28/21 at 6:27 pm to LSU Patrick
Pat - Are you familiar with Pete Kostelnick? I see where he ran a casual 100 mile Saturday stroll yesterday in your neck of the woods. It stood out to me that y'all live in the same town apparently.
Posted on 3/28/21 at 7:38 pm to TigeRoots
Sticky as hell out there this morning and now it feels great. Wish I had waited.
This post was edited on 3/28/21 at 8:00 pm
Posted on 3/28/21 at 7:58 pm to OysterPoBoy
I have a half marathon (along with DSJ) in two weeks. I ran 11 miles last Saturday. I have another 11 miler scheduled for this upcoming Saturday. Should I bump that to 12 miles?
Posted on 3/28/21 at 8:01 pm to Tornado Alley
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Should I bump that to 12 miles?
IMO no.
Once you can long run 11 miles, you’re ready to race 13.1. Remember that you’re going all out (pacing strategically of course) for a race. You want to taper down your miles so that you are rested enough to run your best race. Then you should be dead for a few days after the race.
Posted on 3/28/21 at 9:32 pm to Tornado Alley
I did just to kind of prove to my brain that I could so I wouldn’t be as anxious. It probably won’t make a big difference either way though.
Posted on 3/29/21 at 7:14 am to Tornado Alley
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I have a half marathon (along with DSJ) in two weeks. I ran 11 miles last Saturday. I have another 11 miler scheduled for this upcoming Saturday. Should I bump that to 12 miles?
In my opinion, it can't hurt. Will peaking at an 11-mile long run prepare you for a half? Sure. Personally, I would do at least a couple of long runs in the 13-15 mile range during my training though. The half doesn't require nearly the amount of endurance that the full does, but it is an easy thing to add to a program.
Adding a few miles to a long run has more benefit than risk. It is not likely to increase your risk of injury like an extra speed or tempo workout would, and at the minimum, it will give you a little more confidence that you can do that distance with ease. Also, a taper for a half really doesn't need to be that dramatic, especially if you weren't running 50+ miles per week during your training. You really only need about a week of taper, and it doesn't need to be more than 20-30% for someone running 30-40 miles per week. I actually think people in general taper way too much, especially for distances shorter than marathon.
I don't know what what your training has looked like to this point, but if you believe running a little longer long run will better prepare you, then I would do it. That's my two cents. I know others my have a different take.
Posted on 3/29/21 at 8:00 am to LSU Patrick
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You really only need about a week of taper, and it doesn't need to be more than 20-30% for someone running 30-40 miles per week.
100% agree. You don't want your normal intensity and volume, but you want to put in effort. Run some shorter tempos or intervals. My last couple of weeks were repeats of older runs but less intense and shorter.
Posted on 3/29/21 at 8:56 am to kballa6
T-alley
you can read books for days about training and taper plans but everybody works differently. I think adding the mile isn't a big deal but it will really depend on your current fitness level. how did this last 11 miler leave you feeling? I'd say have the 11-12 miler planned for this weekend but come friday if you aren't feeling fresh don't run it and further run yourself down. if its taking that long to recover and you run another race distance run you won't be fresh when it counts! like others said keep the legs turning but don't worry about having to run the "full distance" prior to the race. best to feel fresh and be able to give it 100% on race day
you can read books for days about training and taper plans but everybody works differently. I think adding the mile isn't a big deal but it will really depend on your current fitness level. how did this last 11 miler leave you feeling? I'd say have the 11-12 miler planned for this weekend but come friday if you aren't feeling fresh don't run it and further run yourself down. if its taking that long to recover and you run another race distance run you won't be fresh when it counts! like others said keep the legs turning but don't worry about having to run the "full distance" prior to the race. best to feel fresh and be able to give it 100% on race day
Posted on 3/29/21 at 9:05 am to ks_nola
Thanks for all the feedback. I’m gonna
give y’all some more information about me to help y’all tailor your responses.
This is my second half marathon. I’m in as good of shape as I’ve been in since I played baseball in high school. I’m down to 178 lbs from 191 lbs when I started training 11 weeks ago. My training has been medium distance runs on M, TU, W, weights on M and W, a hard bike on TH, a long run on SA, and an easy recovery bike on SU. As my weekly running mileage has ramped up, I’ve skipped a few gym days. I have only missed 1 run though, and it was a 4 mile run on a Monday. I haven’t missed a long run.
I ran 25 miles last week in an 8:40/mi range and also did an indoor bike. I’ve run 187 miles over the 11+ weeks of my training plan and just a few (probably less than 10 total) have been above my 8:40/mile goal pace.
I ran 11 Saturday at an 8:39 pace. It was a fight due to the humidity, but I got it done. After the run, I felt fine. A little sore in the hamstrings. I had enough energy to go out and get day drinks with friends. I blistered (relatively speaking) 10 miles the Saturday before at an 8:34/mile pace. I did 5 this morning at an 8:34 pace.
Last year, I did two 11 milers to close my training. I’m in better shape now compared to then, though. Not sure what the extra mile might add.
My taper plan after my long run this Saturday is:
Sunday - 15 mile easy recovery bike
Monday - run 4 miles
Tuesday - run 3 miles
Wednesday - run 2 miles
Thursday - rest
Friday - rest
Saturday - race
give y’all some more information about me to help y’all tailor your responses.
This is my second half marathon. I’m in as good of shape as I’ve been in since I played baseball in high school. I’m down to 178 lbs from 191 lbs when I started training 11 weeks ago. My training has been medium distance runs on M, TU, W, weights on M and W, a hard bike on TH, a long run on SA, and an easy recovery bike on SU. As my weekly running mileage has ramped up, I’ve skipped a few gym days. I have only missed 1 run though, and it was a 4 mile run on a Monday. I haven’t missed a long run.
I ran 25 miles last week in an 8:40/mi range and also did an indoor bike. I’ve run 187 miles over the 11+ weeks of my training plan and just a few (probably less than 10 total) have been above my 8:40/mile goal pace.
I ran 11 Saturday at an 8:39 pace. It was a fight due to the humidity, but I got it done. After the run, I felt fine. A little sore in the hamstrings. I had enough energy to go out and get day drinks with friends. I blistered (relatively speaking) 10 miles the Saturday before at an 8:34/mile pace. I did 5 this morning at an 8:34 pace.
Last year, I did two 11 milers to close my training. I’m in better shape now compared to then, though. Not sure what the extra mile might add.
My taper plan after my long run this Saturday is:
Sunday - 15 mile easy recovery bike
Monday - run 4 miles
Tuesday - run 3 miles
Wednesday - run 2 miles
Thursday - rest
Friday - rest
Saturday - race
This post was edited on 3/29/21 at 9:07 am
Posted on 3/29/21 at 9:37 am to Tornado Alley
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It was a fight due to the humidity, but I got it done.
I underestimated the humidity in my 10K this weekend. Wow. It was like hitting a wall at mile 3. Still set a new PR for 10K at 8:10/mile, but I had hoped to get to 7:30-45 range.
What are yall doing for training during the non-race season (summer)? My current program is 4 days a week with a speed day of intervals and tempo runs. Do yall continue this type of program? Considering backing it down to three days a week and going to the gym for weights three days a week (currently doing two).
Posted on 3/29/21 at 10:05 am to Tornado Alley
Run 20 minutes very easy on Friday with 4-5 pickups mixed in
Posted on 3/29/21 at 11:14 am to Salmon
With the obvious heat/humidity beginning for those in the South, what are your plans for the upcoming months that will keep you "in shape" for when true training for full marathons start back up?
Posted on 3/29/21 at 11:26 am to HeartAttackTiger
just gonna prepare for suffering. will most likely start bringing a handheld on all runs.
Posted on 3/29/21 at 11:35 am to Aubie Spr96
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What are yall doing for training during the non-race season (summer)?
I have an Olympic triathlon (with some friends) in June and then a 70.3 in October.
So I’m probably gonna have a miserable summer, TBH.
Posted on 3/29/21 at 11:36 am to Aubie Spr96
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What are yall doing for training during the non-race season (summer)?
I'm fully committed to a 50 miler next January, so I'll be putting in lots of base mileage
Posted on 3/29/21 at 12:45 pm to Tornado Alley
My week leading up to my half a couple weeks ago:
M - Easy, 25-35 mins
T - Tempo, 15 min WU, 2x 10min@ GHMP w/3min easy between + cooldown
W - Easy, 25-35 mins
Th - Rest
F - Fartlek, 15min WU + 3x 90,60,30 @ GHMP, GMP, Easy + cooldown
Sat - Easy, 20min + 2x 2min@ GHMP + 2x50m strides
Sun - Race
M - Easy, 25-35 mins
T - Tempo, 15 min WU, 2x 10min@ GHMP w/3min easy between + cooldown
W - Easy, 25-35 mins
Th - Rest
F - Fartlek, 15min WU + 3x 90,60,30 @ GHMP, GMP, Easy + cooldown
Sat - Easy, 20min + 2x 2min@ GHMP + 2x50m strides
Sun - Race
Posted on 3/29/21 at 2:21 pm to Aubie Spr96
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What are yall doing for training during the non-race season (summer)?
I don’t have any races planned but I have a goal of 1200 miles for the year. I know the summer will be tougher but I’m still shooting for 25 miles a week. Usually 3/ day with a day off and 10 on Sunday. Those long runs are gonna get tough though so I may have to adjust that.
Posted on 3/29/21 at 3:40 pm to OysterPoBoy
Training shouldn't stop just because its hot and humid. I continue to build up and maintain a higher base. running with a purpose in those conditions will make for big gains when you get back to a "legit" training plan in the fall. I don't have time to wait until the fall. Current schedule is Superior 100 Sept 11th, Boston Oct 11th, and possibly Salton Sea Nov 7th.
Posted on 3/29/21 at 3:46 pm to OysterPoBoy
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I have a goal of 1200 miles for the year.
Same here.
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