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re: Official Running Log/Marathon Training Thread

Posted on 3/6/20 at 8:29 am to
Posted by LSU Patrick
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Posted on 3/6/20 at 8:29 am to
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Time shifts this weekend.

Anybody else excited to get back to running outside after work in the evenings?


I actually prefer running in the mornings, but the warmer weather is nice. I used to run in the afternoons, but it gets too damned hot in during the summer months, and I find that I do a better job of getting all my runs in if I try to do them in the AM.
Posted by Tornado Alley
Member since Mar 2012
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Posted on 3/6/20 at 8:41 am to
I sleep better when I run after work. Don’t know why.
Posted by Tornado Alley
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Posted on 3/6/20 at 10:36 am to
Does anyone here eat anything during a run over 10 miles? I got gassed last week. I’m probably being over cautious, but I’m considering to go get those energy gel things for my 11 miler tomorrow
Posted by jordan21210
Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 3/6/20 at 11:16 am to
General rule of thumb is to take some sort of carb every 45 minutes to an hour of running. Now, if you’re only running for an hour or 1:15 total, probably not necessary. When I was training I’d take a Science In Sport gel at mile 8 of anything over 10. Don’t think I really needed it, but I was also trying to test gels for an upcoming half. The SiS gels worked great for me. Didn’t taste awful and didn’t upset my stomach.
Posted by LSU Patrick
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 3/6/20 at 11:17 am to
I only fuel during runs over 2 and a half hours, and even then it is just to practice fueling for a marathon. I've never bonked before, not even during a marathon. My last Marathon, I only used two gels and two small cups of water. I also train fasted for long runs when marathon training. I've actually run 16 miles before while on an 18-hour fast without experiencing any noticeable difference.

I think the fueling stuff is way oversold, especially for distances under 15 miles or so. The risk of GI issues as a result of gels or drinks is greater than the risk of running out of energy for lesser distances IMO. A daily diet limiting carbohydrates, especially sugar, is much more important for reducing the chance of bonking than fueling during moderately long runs.
Posted by jkylejohnson
Louisiana
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Posted on 3/6/20 at 11:31 am to
LINK

These are my favorite. I take one for my long trail runs on the weekend . They make a ton of flavors but this one is my fav.
Posted by GetCocky11
Calgary, AB
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 3/6/20 at 11:54 am to
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Does anyone here eat anything during a run over 10 miles?


I tried those energy jelly beans one time on a half-marathon trail run and had a really hard time getting them down.
Posted by BurtReynoldsMustache
Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 3/6/20 at 11:59 am to
I’ve mentioned it before but I only fuel for races other than say, runs after lunch. I don’t ever bonk from not fueling regardless of the typical mileage I do, but I’m am considerably faster running after having consumed calories. I am also a non discriminatory calorie consumer.
Posted by LSU Patrick
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 3/6/20 at 12:24 pm to
Yeah. The average person can store up to 2000 calories worth of energy in the form of glycogen. That's enough energy to last most runners 2.5 hours at an 8-minute per mile pace. If one trains the body to burn fat more efficiently by limiting daily carbs and training in a fasted state once or twice per week, that period of time could be easily be extended to 3-4 hours, an entire marathon at that pace.
This post was edited on 3/6/20 at 12:25 pm
Posted by jordan21210
Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 3/6/20 at 12:25 pm to
Have to be careful with some of those gels and beans etc. Many of them require water to go with them, otherwise you’re in for a bad time. The Science In Sport and some others don’t require water.
Posted by LSU Patrick
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 3/6/20 at 12:27 pm to
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I sleep better when I run after work. Don’t know why.


Maybe it helps you unwind and destress at the end of the day.

I forgot to mention that I weight train 4-5 nights a week in addition to my running, so running in the morning allows me to split those activities up.
Posted by Tornado Alley
Member since Mar 2012
28565 posts
Posted on 3/6/20 at 12:31 pm to
I ate oatmeal for breakfast and chick fil a (with large fries) for lunch. I’ll eat lobster pasta for dinner eat oatmeal before my run tomorrow. I should be good huh?
Posted by 1999
Where I be
Member since Oct 2009
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Posted on 3/6/20 at 5:46 pm to
Fueling during my 50k was a new experience. Normally during a marathon I take a gu every 45 minutes. But for an ultra being out there for 6 hours I needed more than that. Used coke and pbj’s at the aid stations. Also would take a large handful of gummy bears and various candy bars they had for us. Did not feel depleted until the cramping started at mile 29. But I blame that on the 1k foot climb.
This post was edited on 3/6/20 at 5:47 pm
Posted by Aubie Spr96
lolwut?
Member since Dec 2009
44550 posts
Posted on 3/6/20 at 9:56 pm to
Put in 3 miles with the old shoes and no knee pain. Going on a 6 mile run in the AM in another pair of shoes to confirm. Excited about running without pain. I’m praying it was the shoes.
Posted by Aubie Spr96
lolwut?
Member since Dec 2009
44550 posts
Posted on 3/7/20 at 9:52 am to
Easy 6 miles this AM. New route. Old shoes. Slow pace. Heart rate never got above 160 until the last mile. Knee never bothered me. Guess I’ll get rid of these shoes I bought and go get some more. Weird.
Posted by jordan21210
Member since Apr 2009
14222 posts
Posted on 3/7/20 at 10:04 am to
Lol I feel you. It was a real revelation when I learned it was my shoes causing my debilitating knee pain. Go find yourself a pair of your old ones or something similar. It’s trial and error bc some neutral shoes have decent stability/posting.
Posted by BurtReynoldsMustache
Member since Sep 2010
4837 posts
Posted on 3/7/20 at 10:13 am to
"10K" This morning felt pretty good considering I'm pretty beat up right now. 16:47 first 5K lol, we went out way faster than the 8K 3 weeks ago. Great day for racing, so I hope to see some quick stuff from y'all competing today.

Oh yeah, obligatory beat last year's winning time by 2:45; comes in third.
This post was edited on 3/7/20 at 10:33 am
Posted by gsadle5
Member since Sep 2007
282 posts
Posted on 3/7/20 at 10:33 am to
Great race this morning Burt. I saw you managed a 5K PR as well.
Posted by McVick
Member since Jan 2011
4624 posts
Posted on 3/7/20 at 12:29 pm to
Today was my first race of the year, the Tipperary Hill Shamrock Run 4 miler. Goal was to finish under 32 minutes; chip time was 30:44. Not bad for winter training and being a good 10+ lbs overweight.

Next up is cryotherapy on some plantar warts and then training for the Mountain Goat 10 miler in early May.
Posted by DownSouthJukin
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Member since Jan 2014
31776 posts
Posted on 3/7/20 at 12:34 pm to
TA-you’re going to kick my arse next weekend. I’ve been down with the flu all week and haven’t been able to do crap. I’ve been up all night hacking for the past 4 nights. I’m hoping to trot out maybe 6 today and then something longer tomorrow, but I’m more worried about finishing now then breaking 2:00.
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