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re: Official Running Log/Marathon Training Thread
Posted on 1/15/20 at 4:09 pm to OysterPoBoy
Posted on 1/15/20 at 4:09 pm to OysterPoBoy
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I did this one today and it kind of kicked my arse. I made it though. I think I was too pumped up and my moderate pace was more like 90% effort. Still felt good after but it drained me for a bit.
Yeah. You probably ran at 90% instead of 80-85%. That's part of the learning process though. Intervals that short won't really affect your recovery too much though. As you increase the length of your intervals, it will be more important to stay close to your target efforts/paces to avoid over training.
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Posted on 1/15/20 at 7:36 pm to LSU Patrick
How do you calculate 80-85% effort? Time the interval? Heart rate monitor?
Posted on 1/16/20 at 8:54 am to Aubie Spr96
Going to buy my first pair of running shoes Saturday.
Been running in 6 year old generic Nikes. Have beaten pace on each mile I’ve logged. Have run a few 10Ks too. I like these shoes, they’re just falling apart.
On my dress shoes, the outside of the sole gets worn down far faster than the inside.
Any tips or hints?
Been running in 6 year old generic Nikes. Have beaten pace on each mile I’ve logged. Have run a few 10Ks too. I like these shoes, they’re just falling apart.
On my dress shoes, the outside of the sole gets worn down far faster than the inside.
Any tips or hints?
Posted on 1/16/20 at 9:06 am to Tornado Alley
Go to your local running store and get fitted with a gait analysis. It’ll be expensive (the shoes) but you only really have to do it once. Then you’ll have all the information you need after buying those shoes to do your shopping online from there on out.
Posted on 1/16/20 at 9:12 am to BurtReynoldsMustache
It’s expensive but necessary.
Posted on 1/16/20 at 10:56 am to Aubie Spr96
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How do you calculate 80-85% effort? Time the interval? Heart rate monitor?
If you have a recent race time, you can use that to predict your training paces. If not, HR can be helpful. That effort level generally equates to your current marathon pace or HR zone 3. I would not depend on HR zone alone, however. Instead, just get an idea of what pace you can sustain for a couple of miles without your HR going well into zone 4. That will give you a decent starting point.
If you don't have a recent race time, schedule in a time trial as soon as you can. Just do it in place of speed or tempo work one day. Plug your time into this calculator, and it will provide you with estimated paces for every race distance and will suggest training paces.
LINK
This post was edited on 1/16/20 at 10:57 am
Posted on 1/16/20 at 11:10 am to Tornado Alley
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On my dress shoes, the outside of the sole gets worn down far faster than the inside.
Typically a sign of supination. This could be the result of high arches or muscle imbalances in the lower body. If you have unusually high arches, you might benefit from a specific shoe.
If it is due to muscle imbalances, however, you would be better served by incorporating some targeted strength training in your weekly schedule. You will also be better off not getting a shoe that controls motion, because that can further weaken your feet, ankles, and calves.
Either way, don't depend solely on a shoe to fix your gait and form. You could end up worsening your performance and increasing the chances and severity of injuries that way. Most people don't need special shoes. In fact, most people will do best in the long term with lighter, more flexible shoes with low or no heel to toe drop.
Posted on 1/16/20 at 11:27 am to BurtReynoldsMustache
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Go to your local running store and get fitted with a gait analysis
To add to this, go somewhere that has a 3D scanner like Fleet Feet. Lots of useful info vs just walking in front of someone.
Posted on 1/16/20 at 12:35 pm to BurtReynoldsMustache
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Go to your local running store and get fitted with a gait analysis. It’ll be expensive (the shoes) but you only really have to do it once. Then you’ll have all the information you need after buying those shoes to do your shopping online from there on out.
Can't say this enough. I had run in whatever New Balance or Asics I picked out since college. 7-8 years ago I finally went and got fitted. The guy at the store handed me a pair of Brooks Adrenaline GTS. They felt amazing. Now, I just wait until the end of each model year and go online and stock up on that year's models for cheap.
Posted on 1/16/20 at 12:41 pm to DownSouthJukin
They aren’t infallible though, so have to keep that in mind. There is also a lot of controversy and questions surrounding the science behind stability shoes. More evidence is pointing toward “run in whatever is comfortable” vs “if you pronate you need stability shoes”.
Posted on 1/16/20 at 12:51 pm to jordan21210
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They aren’t infallible though, so have to keep that in mind. There is also a lot of controversy and questions surrounding the science behind stability shoes. More evidence is pointing toward “run in whatever is comfortable” vs “if you pronate you need stability shoes”.
No doubt. I'm not necessarily recommending the shoe, just the process. To each his/her own.
Posted on 1/16/20 at 2:26 pm to jordan21210
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They aren’t infallible though, so have to keep that in mind. There is also a lot of controversy and questions surrounding the science behind stability shoes. More evidence is pointing toward “run in whatever is comfortable” vs “if you pronate you need stability shoes”.
This. Spending ton of money on shoes isn't necessary, but if people like to do it or feel like it makes a huge difference for them, then have at it. Personally, I'd trust a physical therapist or podiatrist before I'd trust a shoe salesman.
Posted on 1/16/20 at 2:27 pm to DownSouthJukin
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Now, I just wait until the end of each model year
When would that be?
Posted on 1/16/20 at 2:29 pm to LSU Patrick
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This. Spending ton of money on shoes isn't necessary, but if people like to do it or feel like it makes a huge difference for them, then have at it. Personally, I'd trust a physical therapist or podiatrist before I'd trust a shoe salesman.
my wife has pronation issues (had surgery to fix some of it) and bought a fairly expensive pair of orthodics to address it. they've transferred to two different pair of shoes. she can just buy what's comfortable and then stick them in there and she's happy.
on the personal running front, i ran last night at 80 degrees and 80% humidity. i ran today at 50 degrees and a driving cold mist.
that weather.
Posted on 1/16/20 at 2:34 pm to 3nOut
We have more crap on the way. 1/4 inch of ice and a few inches of snow overnight. I'll give it a go in the morning, but if it's too slippery I might have to resort to the dreadmill.
Posted on 1/16/20 at 2:39 pm to OysterPoBoy
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When would that be?
For Brooks Adrenaline GTS’s it’s generally the end of the calendar year since they’re named after the year (last year was the Brooks Adrenaline GTS 19’s and this year are the 20’s).
I can’t say that all Brooks shoes releases line up with the calendar year since they have different numbering systems, but those do and I think the women’s Launch do also, because that’s what my wife wears and that’s what I bought her on close out at the end of 2019.
Posted on 1/16/20 at 4:01 pm to LSU Patrick
i spend a good amount on shoes. i usually have three in my rotation and get rid of them between 350-400 miles. but it's my only hobby.
Posted on 1/17/20 at 6:08 pm to 1999
I think it's about time for me to get a coach. Problem is it's hard to find someone that will work along with me instead of wanting to take over completely. It's even harder to find someone that's qualified in the local area. A lot of people claim the coach title round here but hardly any of them have been there before.
Oh, and I guess we’re about to see what a single Burt can do this year.
Oh, and I guess we’re about to see what a single Burt can do this year.
This post was edited on 1/18/20 at 7:09 am
Posted on 1/18/20 at 7:36 am to BurtReynoldsMustache
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I think it's about time for me to get a coach.
What makes you think that? Plateau? More personalized plan? I’ll never be in that situation, just curious what your thinking is.
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single Burt
‘grats?
This post was edited on 1/18/20 at 7:37 am
Posted on 1/18/20 at 7:51 am to BurtReynoldsMustache
I’m in same boat as you. I need to find a coach but don’t know where to find a local (Baton Rouge) that would work
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