re: Official Running Log/Marathon Training Thread

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I only run with my Garmin watch, and never with my phone. When I get home, I get notices, almost simultaneous, that my run can be viewed on both Strava and Garmin Connect app. The Garmin Connect app reflects the splits on my watch. Not sure how the hell Strava is calculating splits. Not a big deal in the grand scheme of things, just a bit puzzling is all.

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Strava is picking up an exact copy of garmin data because that’s where it gets it from. Your splits should be identical. Garmin sometimes is kinder if you pause than Strava but for the most part they mirror one another.

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I was supposed to pace someone but he has Saints tickets and going to game instead.

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I’m doing both. Hoping I can get outta BR by 9:30 ish. Gonna be interesting.

My Flyknits come in today and tomorrow I get to start running again. It's like Christmas, haha. For those who have the standard flyknits and the 4%, how noticeable is the difference. Do you really see the increased performance of the 4%? Other sites I've read gush over them and the times they put up. Where to the regular flyknits fall in comparison? Improved time, but not as substantial? Or is it more of a train in the flyknit to get used to the shoe, but run in the 4% to get the true time benefit?

You guys are making me look into these Nike shoes.

I'm still running in my Newtons that are missing a front lug

Feels weird when I run on gravel or something, but not really noticeable on concrete/pavement

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For those who have the standard flyknits and the 4%, how noticeable is the difference. Do you really see the increased performance of the 4%

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I own both
I train in the Flyknit and race in the 4%

The difference between the 2 is the foam
The 4% has Zoom X foam which is much softer, I do find better performance in them. One of the main differences is the amount of effort between the two. The 4% foam helps your legs to go longer without fatiguing (they are more "springy").

But do you see an improvement from say a shoe like the Pegasus to the zoom fly flyknit without making the huge jump to the 4% pricing

They are basically the same frame as the 4%s, but much heavier and without the Zoom foam, which gives the 4% the crazy explosive bounce you feel when running in them. They and the Peg Turbos are about the same weight, but the ride of the shoe will be completely different. The Peg Turbos have the zoom foam, but do not have the carbon plate. Overall, if you are looking for a pure racing shoe, buy the 4%. The others are super expensive anyway and the extra $100 is worth it IMO.

Another difference in the turbo from the 4 is that the turbo uses a combination of ZoomX and React foam. One stacked upon the other.

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They feel very similar around your foot, but feel very different under foot IMO. The 4% feel very springy, and actually feel weird if you’re just walking in them. The Zoom Fly felt quick today (I plan for them to be my speed training shoe) but noticeably not as quick to me as the 4%. Perhaps some of that is placebo but they definitely feel different under your feet.

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Exactly this!!!

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But do you see an improvement from say a shoe like the Pegasus to the zoom fly flyknit without making the huge jump to the 4% pricing

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I haven't ran in the Pegasus, but I can tell a big difference in performance between the Flyknits and the 4%

In my opinion, it is worth the extra money if you are wanting to get the most out of your own performance

I have the same problem. It used to be an easy decision to get a large race shirt. I dropped 15 lbs and started getting mediums. Sometimes they are fine, but just as often are too small. And they almost never let you exchange for a different size because they've pe-ordered everything based on runners' size selections. Considering I often will pick a race based on the shirt, it's annoying.