re: Looking for weight recs for a teenage girl.

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A 15yo 100lb girl is going to go from 8lb dumbbells to repping scull-crushers, curls and rows with an Olympic barbell over night?

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First, there are plenty of Olympic bars that aren't 45's. Look at Rogue's entire Bella Bar collection.

Next, yeah, a 15 year old of moderate fitness should be able to pull off rows, ohp, romanian deads and plenty others. Hell, look at power cleans, squat cleans and hang cleans.

Curl and skullcrusher may take some building up, but even that isn't insane. The Bella Bar is about 32 LB. If she's doing 15 reps with 8 lb db's, that's half of the Bella Bar weight.

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Next, yeah, a 15 year old of moderate fitness should be able to pull off rows, ohp, romanian deads and plenty others. Hell, look at power cleans, squat cleans and hang cleans. Curl and skullcrusher may take some building up, but even that isn't insane. The Bella Bar is about 32 LB. If she's doing 15 reps with 8 lb db's, that's half of the Bella Bar weight.

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She’s not transitioning into complex technical lifts off the bat like that let alone at home without proper instruction and sure as shite doesn’t seem like OP will teach her given he’s on here asking us.

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She’s not transitioning into complex technical lifts off the bat like that let alone at home without proper instruction and sure as shite doesn’t seem like OP will teach her given he’s on here asking us.

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Look, this is all beyond the OP's question and an academic debate, but I totally disagree.

First, I think you're overstating the complexity of most barbell lifts. OHP and rows have technical cues, but aren't all that complex. Saying a 15 year old girl doesn't have the strength to lean forward in an athletic stance and pull a 33 LB barbell to her belly button...I disagree.

On more complex lifts like cleans, first, I think OP seems like a concerned enough parent to try. Second, there are lots of good Youtube vids on form on olympic lifts. Kids love Youtube. Give her a good channel and she'll know cues in no time.

Most of all, most HS S&C programs work in olympic lifts on people of this kid's general background. 15 is a fine starting age for olympic lifting or other multijoint movements.

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15 is a fine starting age for olympic lifting or other multijoint movements.

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Not in a garage when you don't know what the frick you're doing, if you even want to do it in the first place anyway

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That doesn't mean I can't still think a rack/barbell is the most versatile and productive piece of fitness equipment you can get. It may not be for OP and I helped him with his question.

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Whatever dude, you come in every thread espousing the same shite then get butthurt that not everyone wants to lift like a strong man

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Whatever dude, you come in every thread espousing the same shite then get butthurt that not everyone wants to lift like a strong man

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This is the first thing I said in this thread.

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Maybe ask 777 for some of the bodyweight Greyskull stuff he has.

For a beginner, she can make good gains from bodyweight alone, and Greyskull is a solid linear template. A linear program is 100% what she should use.

For a low cost additive, look at rings or a suspension trainer like TRX. To really get a barbell setup that will help her will run you more than $200.

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I have my setup, which I like. I tried to give OP a recommendation to fit what he said would work for him and his daughter.

And if you're looking for strength, nothing will get you results faster than a good barbell based linear program. I gave another recommendation to OP because he didn't want that, but that doesn't change what the best overall option is if you only care about results.

Yall know not all olympic bars are 7 feet long and weigh 45 pounds, right? They make 5 foot ones and 6 foots that weigh as little as 15 pounds for beginners. They cost between 60 and 100 dollars, 200 for a super expensive one.

I never planned to buy her a power rack with 600 pounds of weights. Just a bar with a few light weights she could always use as she got older. Figured I'd start with just a bar and then hunt around on marketplace for weights.

Either way, I think the TRX system will be better for her for now if she uses it. It can be something she can take and use anywhere later (apartment or what not). The only thing I dont like about it is it will eventually wear out and she'll possibly have trouble using it.

you might want to consider the wooden rings over TRX. The only drawback on them is that its harder to do leg workouts but if you build her a box and get her a sandbag or some dumbbells it'll solve that problem as she can do step ups, Bulgarian split squats, lunges, single leg deadlifts, goblet squats, etc.

He’s talking about gymnastic rings.

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The only drawback on them is that its harder to do leg workouts but if you build her a box and get her a sandbag or some dumbbells it'll solve that problem as she can do step ups, Bulgarian split squats, lunges, single leg deadlifts, goblet squats, etc.

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FWIW, I'd actually recommend this directly for legs. Gliding leg curls are the only TRX exercise I've found to be really effective.

The single leg work mentioned above will work for her with light DB's or KB's. If you have budget left over, picking up light DB's or KB's would be ideal for her situation.