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re: Is the barbell bench press too injury prone?
Posted on 1/19/23 at 2:22 pm to lsu777
Posted on 1/19/23 at 2:22 pm to lsu777
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bench is a horizontal push, being supported has nothing to do with it. its a basic horizontal push period. why did it become popular...because its the easist to progressively overload unlike something like a weighted pushup.
You sure about that? I’m pretty sure it has everything to do with it.
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Posted on 1/19/23 at 2:31 pm to Robin Masters
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You sure about that? I’m pretty sure it has everything to do with it.
yes im sure, the support is what allows progressive overload on the exercise much easier than other horizontal pushes
im done arguing about it, go beleive your crossfit dogma if you want. I dont really care.
Posted on 1/19/23 at 3:05 pm to lsu777
HOW MANY TIMES DO YOU LIFT A METAL BAR OFF THE GROUND IN REAL LIFE ITS NOT FUNCTIONALLLLLL
Posted on 1/19/23 at 3:55 pm to lsu777
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yes im sure, the support is what allows progressive overload on the exercise much easier than other horizontal pushes
That’s not what you initially said. But we agree, the bench gives you a mechanical advantage which allows for overload, and I would add, for which our bodies have not adapted to deal with very well.
I’ve lifted weights for 35 years and spent 3 month in a box 10 years ago. You assume far too much about…we’ll quite a bit it would appear.
Sorry to rustle your jimmies with what I clearly warned was just my opinion.
This post was edited on 1/19/23 at 4:02 pm
Posted on 1/19/23 at 3:58 pm to GeorgeTheGreek
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HOW MANY TIMES DO YOU LIFT A METAL BAR OFF THE GROUND IN REAL LIFE ITS NOT FUNCTIONALLLLLL
Actually lifting something off the ground is quite useful.
Posted on 1/19/23 at 4:11 pm to Robin Masters
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Actually lifting something off the ground is quite useful.
You guys are putting too much thought into this, I just like/want to get the middle age women all excited when I walk in.
Posted on 1/19/23 at 4:21 pm to ODP
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You guys are putting too much thought into this, I just like/want to get the middle age women all excited when I walk in.
Womenz in tight pants is 75% of why I go to the gym and the reason for 95% of my elevated heart rate.
Posted on 1/19/23 at 4:23 pm to Robin Masters
And pushing yourself up off the ground isn’t?
Posted on 1/19/23 at 4:36 pm to GeorgeTheGreek
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And pushing yourself up off the ground isn’t?
A push up is not the bench press. And What evolutionary advantage would being able to push up multiple times your body weight present?
And don’t you find it odd that despite resistance training being around for thousands of years that the bench press was only just thought of 75 years ago? I mean gosh, it’s so useful, how did they miss it?!?
Posted on 1/19/23 at 6:08 pm to Robin Masters
Thankfully my HOA has banned barbell bench pressing at all neighborhood gyms.
Posted on 1/19/23 at 6:09 pm to Robin Masters
You either a troll or not very thoughtful
Posted on 1/19/23 at 6:18 pm to Hu_Flung_Pu
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You either a troll or not very thoughtful
Sorry for hurting your feelings. Didn’t realize so many of you were so emotionally connected to an exercise.
Posted on 1/19/23 at 7:44 pm to Robin Masters
Haha you not hurting my feelings
Posted on 1/19/23 at 8:05 pm to Robin Masters
I promise I’m not emotionally attached to the bench. It’s one of if not my least favorite lift. I explained to you why it’s a good lift and why it’s become so popular
Posted on 1/19/23 at 8:33 pm to lsu777
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promise I’m not emotionally attached to the bench. It’s one of if not my least favorite lift. I explained to you why it’s a good lift and why it’s become so popular
I’m certainly not emotionally attached to this theory so please help me find a necessary activity of our caveman forefathers that would have been a precedent to the bench?
The closest I can come up with as you mentioned is if someone is on you and you are pushing them off but the problem is that in that situation you are not elevated and your entire back and shoulders are flat on the floor, not just the spine. And in that situation you wouldn’t be lifting them horizontally but either pushing them at an incline or downward. Pushing them horizontally only keeps them on top of you and your back on the floor. Any intermediate wrestler can attest to this.
Shoulder press and dips to me seem like a much more evolutionarily correct push exercise.
For the record I feel the same way about jogging. I just don’t see cavemen jogging for 10s of miles. They were either sprinting or walking.
And I’m not disputing the bench’s popularity and any exercise that can incorporate your largest muscle groups will certainly build power. I don’t think that makes my point any less valid.
Posted on 1/19/23 at 10:22 pm to Robin Masters
A there is tons of carryover and both the press and dips become hard to progressively overload. Get strong on bench and I promise you aren’t gonna be like…oh well can’t get this 100 lbs beam off me cause my back ain’t braced or I can’t push down a 4th grader cause I’m not laying perfectly braced and supported
That’s the dumbest thing ever. I promise caveman did have a perfectly balanced bar either to lift with. We use the bar because it’s a great tool to use to perform progressive overload which works the muscle which makes them stronger which makes us much better at those patterns
Stop worrying about and focusing on certain exercises and focus on movement patterns. Horizontal push happens to be one of the fundamental movement patterns…well what exercise do we have that is easy to progressively overload????
As far as the jogging we evolved to work other animals to death when we couldn’t catch them by surprise or with a sprint. We are slow as an animal in sprinting but the best at long distance. They would chase animals until they collapsed. We already know this.
But I’m not a fuxking cave man and I have much better tools for completing every task. So why wouldn’t I use them
That’s the dumbest thing ever. I promise caveman did have a perfectly balanced bar either to lift with. We use the bar because it’s a great tool to use to perform progressive overload which works the muscle which makes them stronger which makes us much better at those patterns
Stop worrying about and focusing on certain exercises and focus on movement patterns. Horizontal push happens to be one of the fundamental movement patterns…well what exercise do we have that is easy to progressively overload????
As far as the jogging we evolved to work other animals to death when we couldn’t catch them by surprise or with a sprint. We are slow as an animal in sprinting but the best at long distance. They would chase animals until they collapsed. We already know this.
But I’m not a fuxking cave man and I have much better tools for completing every task. So why wouldn’t I use them
Posted on 1/20/23 at 4:52 am to ODP
I have many more frequent pains/close calls with deadlift than bench personally.
Posted on 1/20/23 at 7:13 am to 632627
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incline bench triggers awful pain in my left shoulder
I've never had a formal diagnosis of my right shoulder, but I would get that pain (right for me) doing inclines back in the day when I was strong enough to lift weight that would hurt.
I was mainly doing inclines on a plate loading machine then, but I did some traditional incline barbell and dumbbell with the same issue. More recently, I had some shoulder pain that felt better under load with barbell bench press. Now, it is one of those newfangled digital machines, but I thought, "Huh. That's weird."
I suppose that every situation and joint are different.
Posted on 1/20/23 at 4:00 pm to ODP
Bench press hurt me bad today. I went in with aspirations of possibly looking for a 1 rep PR. Got my usual 3-4 rep working weight on there and barely squeezed out 1 rep. Didn’t even think about loading up more.
Gonna take a while for my pride to recover from that. Damn off days.
Gonna take a while for my pride to recover from that. Damn off days.
Posted on 1/21/23 at 10:36 am to 632627
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I have a strange shoulder issue ... Flat barbell bench I'm fine, standing military press is fine too, incline bench triggers awful pain in my left shoulder (I assume rotator cuff).
I have a very similar issue. I can do basically everything but when I do shoulder press, I have to stay in the front of my shoulders. If I go straight up, sharp pain that lingers. Hell it even does it at times when I just lift my arm straight up above my head. I assume rotator cuff also.
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