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Posted on 4/2/24 at 2:47 pm to PoopStainsx1
I feel ya. High intensity does burn a lot of calories...but damn if it doesnt make me ravenously hungry
Posted on 4/2/24 at 2:50 pm to Aubie Spr96
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I think it's probably a combination of the two and training for strictly one or the other is probably a bad idea. Took me a while of nothing but running to figure that out.
Same here. I used to lift a lot back in high school for football workouts, and after college and getting married we'd go to the gym most nights. I hated cardio. Spin classes were not my thing, I didn't really like distance running. I got into it later on in life like a lot of people, and started to really enjoy just zoning out. I'd listen to music or podcasts and just go for a long run. It was great.
Then I bought a Peloton a couple of years ago and got really into that. A year ago I got back into weights, and have settled into a good mix of both. I like endurance training, and I also like lifting weights, but it is hard to be great at both at the same time. So I go back and forth on what I do. I'll take 6-8 week training blocks on the bike, and lift other days. Then I'll focus on improving strength for about the same amount of time, and ride just enough to maintain, or even lose a little bit of progress there. Keeps it fresh, and any sort of training or movement is better than nothing. I focused pretty heavily on lower body strength for the past month, and hopped back on the bike last week and could tell it made a difference. Typically ride for 45 minutes twice a week and an hour or longer one day a week, and that hour ride felt great. I had only been doing a half hour to 45 minutes 2-3 days a week, and was pleasantly surprised I wasn't gassed after an hour.
Posted on 4/2/24 at 2:58 pm to PoopStainsx1
I jog in a mile in the morning because my dog likes it. Otherwise, I do a couple of hikes per week with 25-40 lbs in my pack. It gets my heart rate up and my knees/ankles don't feel as bad as when I was trail running. I forgot where I read it but I think it has a lot of the same benefits as running. It's definitely made hunting a lot easier and more enjoyable. I can pack out a quartered deer like it's nothing.
Posted on 4/2/24 at 3:18 pm to PoopStainsx1
Cardio is vastly overrated. Resistance Training/Weight lifting is where it is at.
Posted on 4/2/24 at 3:41 pm to scottydoesntknow
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For those that dont jog...I dont blame you but for those that dont walk, you are missing out bigly
If you’re short on time, how could walking possible be better for you than running?
Posted on 4/2/24 at 4:06 pm to PoopStainsx1
If you want to see a body composition change, strength training is >>>> cardio.
Posted on 4/2/24 at 4:10 pm to NewOrleansBlend
Me sitting here with a VO2max in the mid 60s 
This post was edited on 4/2/24 at 4:11 pm
Posted on 4/2/24 at 4:15 pm to TheIndulger
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If you’re short on time, how could walking possible be better for you than running?
Its not, but if you make time for walking youll burn a decent amount of calories and the big upside: it doesnt make you more hungry
Edit: I do think when you factor in stress on joints, walking is far superior than jogging. I consider running to be a high enough intensity that it cant be maintained for very long. Jogging isnt a gear humans are supposed to have
This post was edited on 4/2/24 at 5:24 pm
Posted on 4/2/24 at 4:44 pm to scottydoesntknow
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Its not, but if you make time for walking youll burn a decent amount of calories and the big upside: it doesnt make you more hungry
Even short daily walks add up. Its not like you need to go walk for an hour. I'd take a 15 minute lap around work several days a week, and it just helps in many small ways. Gets you moving, helps you stay loose, burns some calories, not a ton, but it can be an easy way to make small improvements. When my grandpa had a heart attack back in the 80s, his cardiologist said go walk a half hour every day. Just around the neighborhood.
Posted on 4/2/24 at 5:35 pm to Big Scrub TX
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recommending like 20 hours of cardio per week.
This is soooo dumb, I'm an endurance runner putting in what is considered "high milage" and still don't break out of 7 hours. Do these influencers live in a hyperbolic chamber and refuse to hang out with normal everyday people or something?!?!
PS: for OP as long as you are working some part of your cardiovascular system I don't see a problem. Yes vo2 Max and cardiovascular health has been proven to "increase your life exponentially" but if you are miserable when doing traditional cardio and already more healthy than most people and eating healthy... you are still extending your life, you do you.
This post was edited on 4/2/24 at 5:40 pm
Posted on 4/2/24 at 5:41 pm to BaddestAndvari
20 hours is a little exaggerated
Attia's workout recommendations
To hit all four fitness pillars, Attia recommends the following each week:
• Stability: one hour, split into 5 to 10 minute blocks done before your other workouts
• Strength: three 45 to 60 minute full body workouts targeting all major muscle groups
• Aerobic Efficiency: four 45 to 60 minute zone 2 cardio workouts
• Anaerobic Performance: one 30 minute
VO2 max workout
Attia's workout recommendations
To hit all four fitness pillars, Attia recommends the following each week:
• Stability: one hour, split into 5 to 10 minute blocks done before your other workouts
• Strength: three 45 to 60 minute full body workouts targeting all major muscle groups
• Aerobic Efficiency: four 45 to 60 minute zone 2 cardio workouts
• Anaerobic Performance: one 30 minute
VO2 max workout
Posted on 4/2/24 at 6:42 pm to bigbuckdj
Rusin says need 3-4 strength sessions 60-75 min each and 150 min minimal of vo2 training and that they must be trained separate. Says no benefits of training together or less than 150mon of zone 2
All of that is complete and utter bullshite and he conveniently ignores those that ask for the studies
2 focused strength sessions and 8k steps show massive massive benefits to all cause mortality. Would what he says be better…prolly, but not much
At some point training economy and time commitments. Most people do not have 75 min a day plus time to drive to the gym and home and change etc etc so 90-120 min each day to dedicate to working out and it’s fricking asinine to think that. Living in a fricking bubble if people think that’s possible
Only guys who suggest that are guys that are doing this for a living and live in the gym
3-4 sessions of strength plus 8-10 min max conditioning plus 8k steps a day is more than sufficient for 98%+ of people
All of that is complete and utter bullshite and he conveniently ignores those that ask for the studies
2 focused strength sessions and 8k steps show massive massive benefits to all cause mortality. Would what he says be better…prolly, but not much
At some point training economy and time commitments. Most people do not have 75 min a day plus time to drive to the gym and home and change etc etc so 90-120 min each day to dedicate to working out and it’s fricking asinine to think that. Living in a fricking bubble if people think that’s possible
Only guys who suggest that are guys that are doing this for a living and live in the gym
3-4 sessions of strength plus 8-10 min max conditioning plus 8k steps a day is more than sufficient for 98%+ of people
Posted on 4/2/24 at 7:51 pm to PoopStainsx1
I used to hate on cardio but now I love my 300 weekly minutes of zone two jogging and biking. It’ll come in handy when I’m hiking up a 12,000 ft peak this summer.
Posted on 4/2/24 at 9:25 pm to White Raj
How the frick do yall have an hour 5 days a week to just go jogging? Maybe it’s the age of my kids and them being so into sports but I barely have time to lift 3x per week
Posted on 4/3/24 at 6:01 am to PoopStainsx1
I think some cardio is beneficial but just like everything else it needs to be in moderation. My overall personal mission statement is that I want to be stronger than the people that are faster than me and faster than the people that are stronger than me. This requires a little bit of everything.
Posted on 4/3/24 at 6:26 am to SquatchDawg
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My overall personal mission statement is that I want to be stronger than the people that are faster than me and faster than the people that are stronger than me.
I like it.
I'm short so I guess mine needs to be that I'm stronger than most runners and can run further than most lifters.
Posted on 4/3/24 at 8:10 am to lsu777
Theres definitely a point of diminishing returns on strength that doesn’t seem to exist with vo2 max.I think we all know someone who lifts 5 days a week who could die at any moment from a heart attack. Bodybuilders and strongmen have horrible life spans. Being huge and manipulating your hormones for decades is not great for you.
The answer is probably to make sure you are strong and in shape. If you are completely neglecting one aspect of fitness it probably would benefit you greatly to pay it a little attention.
I don’t think one hour per day or 7 hours a week for fitness is ridiculous.
The answer is probably to make sure you are strong and in shape. If you are completely neglecting one aspect of fitness it probably would benefit you greatly to pay it a little attention.
I don’t think one hour per day or 7 hours a week for fitness is ridiculous.
Posted on 4/3/24 at 8:50 am to lsu777
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How the frick do yall have an hour 5 days a week to just go jogging? Maybe it’s the age of my kids and them being so into sports but I barely have time to lift 3x per week
Not sure why you're being down voted but I absolutely do not have time to run/lift in the evenings. If it's not baseball, it's track, or church, or football. Literally every day of the week. I've started lifting at 4:30 and although I hate it, it is the best way. Lift 4 days, walk 3 days.
Posted on 4/3/24 at 9:11 am to bamaguy17
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Not sure why you're being down voted but I absolutely do not have time to run/lift in the evenings. If it's not baseball, it's track, or church, or football. Literally every day of the week. I've started lifting at 4:30 and although I hate it, it is the best way. Lift 4 days, walk 3 days.
Right there with you. I don't have a home gym (yet) so I have to lift before or after work. After just isn't an option with everything my kids have going on (dance, band, gymnastics, volleyball, etc). If my wife wasn't able to bring them to school (leaves at 5:40am and gets home at 5:50PM), then I'd basically be limited to lifting on Sat/Sunday mornings or weekdays at 3AM/10PM. My typical weekday is to walk to the gym at 5:40AM, workout for roughly 75min, maybe 15-20 min in sauna (if I have time), walk back home (3 mile roundtrip), shower, start work. If I have a Saturday workout planned, I start my day at 3:30 or 4.
Right now I'm in a pattern of lifting 3 days, then 1 day cardio (stationary bike). No matter what day it is, I walk at least 3 miles everyday.
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