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re: Hubermans guest today is Dr. Christopher Gardner
Posted on 5/15/25 at 11:24 am to scottydoesntknow
Posted on 5/15/25 at 11:24 am to scottydoesntknow
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Im not gonna tell yall not to eat fiber...but the lack of it in my diet is leading to no negative issues for me.
You and Ron are both incels, and both carnivore. Really makes you think
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Posted on 5/15/25 at 11:41 am to Mingo Was His NameO
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quote:Im not gonna tell yall not to eat fiber...but the lack of it in my diet is leading to no negative issues for me. You and Ron are both incels, and both carnivore. Really makes you think
cool
Posted on 5/16/25 at 6:51 am to Aubie Spr96
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Aubie Spr96
Have you come out as a vegetarian yet?
Posted on 5/16/25 at 8:43 am to Mo Jeaux
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Have you come out as a vegetarian yet?
Never have been and most likely never will be.
Posted on 5/16/25 at 8:44 am to Mingo Was His NameO
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You and Ron are both incels, and both carnivore. Really makes you think
i find it funny how much most in this thread are completely out of touch with reality.
the thought that hey.....im gonna get people to give up everythign they enjoy and start focusing on all the things like gut health, mircos nutrients, nutrient timing etc is fricking laughable
do yall not understand that less than 8% of americans, last study I saw, performed resistance training a minimum of 2x per week. most dont eat 100g of protein a day.....trust me people aint gonna do all that shite.
Posted on 5/16/25 at 8:46 am to lsu777
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i find it funny how much most in this thread are completely out of touch with reality. the thought that hey.....im gonna get people to give up everythign they enjoy and start focusing on all the things like gut health, mircos nutrients, nutrient timing etc is fricking laughable do yall not understand that less than 8% of americans, last study I saw, performed resistance training a minimum of 2x per week. most dont eat 100g of protein a day.....trust me people aint gonna do all that shite.
What does this have to do with neither of those dorks being able to get laid?
Posted on 5/16/25 at 8:50 am to Mingo Was His NameO
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What does this have to do with neither of those dorks being able to get laid?
wait what? i thought ron always bragged about fricking over 1000 women
im confused....he always brags about that.
Posted on 5/16/25 at 8:59 am to Aubie Spr96
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Have you come out as a vegetarian yet?
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Never have been and most likely never will be.
You give off strong vegan vibes, which may be worse than actually being a vegan
Posted on 5/16/25 at 10:35 am to dallastiger55
I finally finished the podcast.
A lot of this is over my head, but I can tell you that this guy had no intention of coming on this podcast with an open mind. Anything Huberman pushed back with slightly that he had not conceded before the interview was wrought with ego.
I can't stand "experts" who go on to a show and then act like they're doing the listener a favor by spewing their prepared line of thought and then doing nothing more than defending their past accusations.
It was a good listen, but I don't like this person.
A lot of this is over my head, but I can tell you that this guy had no intention of coming on this podcast with an open mind. Anything Huberman pushed back with slightly that he had not conceded before the interview was wrought with ego.
I can't stand "experts" who go on to a show and then act like they're doing the listener a favor by spewing their prepared line of thought and then doing nothing more than defending their past accusations.
It was a good listen, but I don't like this person.
Posted on 5/18/25 at 8:05 am to Mingo Was His NameO
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i find it funny how much most in this thread are completely out of touch with reality. the thought that hey.....im gonna get people to give up everythign they enjoy and start focusing on all the things like gut health, mircos nutrients, nutrient timing etc is fricking laughable do yall not understand that less than 8% of americans, last study I saw, performed resistance training a minimum of 2x per week. most dont eat 100g of protein a day.....trust me people aint gonna do all that shite.
What does this have to do with neither of those dorks being able to get laid?
sorry I hurt your feelings...can we be friends
This post was edited on 5/18/25 at 8:19 am
Posted on 5/19/25 at 11:35 am to lsu777
quote:I pretty much agree. the only thing I would add with time-restricted eating is that you didn't really mention sleep quality here...and I think it's shown that having final meal 3-4 hours prior to bedtime (which also really matters when it is) makes a difference. And if one does that - say, stops eating at 6PM - it sort of just de facto becomes time-restricted eating.
1) lift 3-4x per week heavy and progressively
2) walk 8k steps a day
3) get 20 min of zone 2 in 2-3x per week
4) set your caloric limit for your goal
5) eat 1g or protein per lbs of bodyweight minimum
6) figure out how you like to eat preference wise and fill the rest of the calories with things that help you stay compliant using whole foods
everyone acts like this shite is so complicated...it isnt and 99% of people know how to do it....but people love built in excuses.
Sleep quality matters - a lot. And it would be possible to negatively influence it by things like exercising or eating too late or night (or exercising too much - some people are genetic "slow recoverers" and 4 heavy lifts per week might be counter-productive.
Posted on 5/19/25 at 11:39 am to lsu777
quote:You always say this, but how many of those studies are longitudinal? Body fat loss is extremely important - and I agree it's probably a huge portion of the battle.
also i can speak with 10000% certainty when it comes to body fat loss, there is no advantage of any diet over another once calories and protein are equated. we have 2 or 3 dozen studies and at least half a dozen meta analysis that show this.
But a healthy weight and body comp are only table stakes for me. I'm much more focused on cellular dysfunction in my later years. And I think more goes into that than just weight.
Posted on 5/19/25 at 12:01 pm to Big Scrub TX
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You always say this, but how many of those studies are longitudinal? Body fat loss is extremely important - and I agree it's probably a huge portion of the battle.
well there has not been one single study that showed once protein and calories were equated that any elimination diet caused greater body fat loss. now there are advantages to keto in the form of long term people tend to eat less intuitively without lowering NEAT
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I'm much more focused on cellular dysfunction in my later years. And I think more goes into that than just weight.
that is fine if that is your focus but unless you are below 12% bodyfat, strong AF and very muscular, hitting your step goal....kind of wasting your time majoring in the minors for the most part. but understand that 95%+ people have much lower hanging fruit to pick than worrying about cellular dysfunction, what ever that means.
Posted on 5/19/25 at 12:09 pm to lsu777
quote:I'm trying to agree with you, but you seem to be being obtuse.
that is fine if that is your focus but unless you are below 12% bodyfat, strong AF and very muscular, hitting your step goal....kind of wasting your time majoring in the minors for the most part. but understand that 95%+ people have much lower hanging fruit to pick than worrying about cellular dysfunction, what ever that means.
I'm basically saying it probably really matters what you eat. That is, it's very possible to be of good weight and composition but still be eating crappy things or exposing yourself to other negative environmental stressors that impact your very long-term outlook.
Cellular dysfunction is my shorthand for long-term damage that causes things like cancer and Alzheimers.
Posted on 5/19/25 at 12:36 pm to lsu777
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well there has not been one single study that showed once protein and calories were equated that any elimination diet caused greater body fat loss.
We get this side, everyone agrees with you. I don’t know why you get so hung up on this. As Big Scrub said, there’s a ton of shite that’s really fricking important that you completely dismiss with this statement. Metabolic function, sleep quality, gut health, etc
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kind of wasting your time majoring in the minors for the most part.
Sleep isn’t majoring in the minors. It’s quite literally the most important thing we do. This is why I continue to call you a fricking moron, because you are.
This post was edited on 5/19/25 at 12:38 pm
Posted on 5/19/25 at 1:41 pm to Mingo Was His NameO
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We get this side, everyone agrees with you. I don’t know why you get so hung up on this. As Big Scrub said, there’s a ton of shite that’s really fricking important that you completely dismiss with this statement. Metabolic function, sleep quality, gut health, etc
no i actually agree with yall on these things im just talkin gin general. and for most people....those things kind of take care of themselves after they clean up the rest.
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Sleep isn’t majoring in the minors. It’s quite literally the most important thing we do. This is why I continue to call you a fricking moron, because you are.
i never said it was and you know that i always preach how important it is. i have never said anything other then if at all possible get 8 hours. 7 hours at absolute minimum and if its a teen.....10+ if possible
i also advocate using supplements to help with sleep too.
This post was edited on 5/19/25 at 1:42 pm
Posted on 5/19/25 at 5:33 pm to lsu777
quote:You left it off your 'keep it simple' list. Also, timing of sleep window matters - i.e. "composition of sleep". Just getting 8 hours isn't good enough. Deep and REM matter a lot. And if you're sleeping from 2AM - 10AM, that very likely isn't cutting it for you.
i never said it was and you know that i always preach how important it is. i have never said anything other then if at all possible get 8 hours. 7 hours at absolute minimum and if its a teen.....10+ if possible
Posted on 5/19/25 at 6:18 pm to Big Scrub TX
I did find it interesting that the guy stated that no one in the United States is ever diagnosed as protein deficient.
Posted on 5/19/25 at 9:35 pm to Aubie Spr96
quote:The vast majority of people in the US are not guided toward lower weight and a more optimal body comp. If the goal is lean mass to replace fat mass, it's going to be very hard without protein and some pretty sturdy resistance training.
I did find it interesting that the guy stated that no one in the United States is ever diagnosed as protein deficient.
If anything, they're more likely to be told that this is healthy:
There's literally 100% chance she's not getting enough protein.
Posted on 5/20/25 at 7:02 am to Big Scrub TX
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You left it off your 'keep it simple' list. Also, timing of sleep window matters - i.e. "composition of sleep". Just getting 8 hours isn't good enough. Deep and REM matter a lot. And if you're sleeping from 2AM - 10AM, that very likely isn't cutting it for you.
i agree, but i assume that most people have normal schedules but if they have to sleep 2-10 well that is because they work a weird shift.
in the end there are always going to be exceptions. getting someone to 8 hours in and of itself is a big task for most people. Hell i only get 7 each night.
yall seem to have an issue distinguishing between optimal and perfect. talking about things like sleep timing and nutrient timing and micro nutrients confuses the frick out of people and just discourages them. I have written plenty about optimal in terms of sleep, supplementation, perfect nutrient timing, hormone timing etc. optimal and perfect doesn't apply to 99% of people. Hell doesnt even apply to me 75% of the year when Im so busy with the kids that I cant make things perfect.
This post was edited on 5/20/25 at 7:05 am
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