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re: Hubermans guest today is Dr. Christopher Gardner

Posted on 5/14/25 at 12:10 pm to
Posted by ronricks
Member since Mar 2021
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Posted on 5/14/25 at 12:10 pm to
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You don't need to create a straw man.


Not a strawman. The SAD has given us fiber 'recommendations'. As SAD became more and more prevalent all the sudden everyone needs 'fiber'. Why?
Posted by cajuns td
Prairieville
Member since Jun 2019
300 posts
Posted on 5/14/25 at 12:12 pm to
You're dodging the question

By the way, I think we would mostly agree regarding diet quality. I just think you're wrong regarding fiber consumption. The evidence is too strong.
This post was edited on 5/14/25 at 12:17 pm
Posted by ronricks
Member since Mar 2021
12203 posts
Posted on 5/14/25 at 12:17 pm to
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You're dodging the question

No, I'm giving you the answer. Quit being an unhealthy fat frick and eating the SAD and you won't 'need' fiber.
Posted by cajuns td
Prairieville
Member since Jun 2019
300 posts
Posted on 5/14/25 at 12:20 pm to
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unhealthy fat frick


First time I've ever been called this

All you have to do is explain why all available research regarding fiber consumption is BS
Posted by Not Cooper
Member since Jun 2015
5037 posts
Posted on 5/14/25 at 12:30 pm to
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No, I'm giving you the answer. Quit being an unhealthy fat frick and eating the SAD and you won't 'need' fiber.

Absolutely no one here is advocating for the standard American diet. You’re just showing your arse and trying to prove carnivore is the only way to be.

If your diet is high in whole, unprocessed foods you are getting plenty of fiber. No one here is trying to get you to just chug Metamucil and eat like shite.
Posted by ronricks
Member since Mar 2021
12203 posts
Posted on 5/14/25 at 12:32 pm to
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All you have to do is explain why all available research regarding fiber consumption is BS


Have you gone out in public? To a restaurant? Store? Work? Just about everyone is fat. Why? SAD. I'm not telling you to go carnivore, keto, ketovore, paleo, whole 30, Mediterranean, etc.

People who are eating highly processed foods (which is most of this obese and unhealthy country) are going to suffer from things like inflammation, stomach/gut issues, and bowel movement issues. The answer for that problem isn't to start stuffing your face with foods with fiber or drinking Metamucil by the liter to keep you 'regular'. Its to stop eating that crap in the first place and the rest will take care of itself.

Look on here. How many times have we seen a post from some baw who tells us he is 5'10 220 and needs to "lose 20 pounds" No fat frick you need to lose 50 pounds. People are so fat and unhealthy they don't even know what healthy is. That's how we get stupid shite like fiber recommendations.
Posted by cajuns td
Prairieville
Member since Jun 2019
300 posts
Posted on 5/14/25 at 12:36 pm to
A high fiber diet is not the same as SAD. The SAD is highly fiber deficient.
Posted by ronricks
Member since Mar 2021
12203 posts
Posted on 5/14/25 at 12:37 pm to
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You’re just showing your arse and trying to prove carnivore is the only way to be


I posted the opposite. Not once in this thread have I told people they must go carnivore or any other diet. lsu777 already touched on this. Stop eating processed junk. I don't care what diet you use. Cut out the highly processed foods which are giving you the inflammation, gut issues, and bowel issues and you won't need any fiber and you will healthy.
Posted by ronricks
Member since Mar 2021
12203 posts
Posted on 5/14/25 at 12:39 pm to
God dammit you are dumb. SAD is what gives millions of Americans inflammation, gut issues, and bowel issues. And people come on here and ask what fiber supplement they should buy or what foods high in fiber they should eat thinking that is a 'cure'. That is NOT the cure. Do you understand this?
Posted by cajuns td
Prairieville
Member since Jun 2019
300 posts
Posted on 5/14/25 at 12:39 pm to
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Stop eating processed junk. I don't care what diet you use. Cut out the highly processed foods


See we agree

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you won't need any fiber and you will healthy


Again, Where did you learn that this is true
Posted by cajuns td
Prairieville
Member since Jun 2019
300 posts
Posted on 5/14/25 at 12:47 pm to
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God dammit you are dumb


You stayed as a fact that fiber is not necessary if you eat a proper human diet. Which I assume is carnivore. I've only asked you to explain how this is true. You clearly cannot
Posted by ronricks
Member since Mar 2021
12203 posts
Posted on 5/14/25 at 12:48 pm to
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Again, Where did you learn that this is true


From the hundreds of thousands of Americans who have used different diets to cut out processed foods and all the sudden their inflammation, bloating, gut issues, and bowel issues miraculously disappeared without the use of Metamucil or stuffing their face with fiber everyday. This is extremely basic stuff.
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
37536 posts
Posted on 5/14/25 at 12:50 pm to
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God dammit you are dumb. SAD is what gives millions of Americans inflammation, gut issues, and bowel issues. And people come on here and ask what fiber supplement they should buy or what foods high in fiber they should eat thinking that is a 'cure'. That is NOT the cure. Do you understand this?


You’re arguing multiple different things. Your overall point is correct but your messaging sucks.

You and 777 are perfect for each other
Posted by ronricks
Member since Mar 2021
12203 posts
Posted on 5/14/25 at 12:51 pm to
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You stayed as a fact that fiber is not necessary if you eat a proper human diet. Which I assume is carnivore.




Carnivore is just one of several. Most Americans do not eat a proper diet. That does not = carnivore is the only answer. Quit assuming things. I can tell you what isn't the answer and that is using fiber supplements or stuffing your face with grams and grams of fiber.
Posted by Not Cooper
Member since Jun 2015
5037 posts
Posted on 5/14/25 at 12:51 pm to
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From the hundreds of thousands of Americans who have used different diets to cut out processed foods and all the sudden their inflammation, bloating, gut issues, and bowel issues miraculously disappeared without the use of Metamucil or stuffing their face with fiber everyday. This is extremely basic stuff.

There is no other unprocessed food diet in the world that has no fiber in it other than carnivore.

That’s the whole goddamn point man
Posted by cajuns td
Prairieville
Member since Jun 2019
300 posts
Posted on 5/14/25 at 12:52 pm to
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Your overall point is correct but your messaging sucks.


His overall point is mostly correct
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
37536 posts
Posted on 5/14/25 at 12:52 pm to
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There is no other unprocessed food diet in the world that has no fiber in it other than carnivore. That’s the whole goddamn point man


I can’t tell if he’s a total dumbass or just really worked up. 6 in one hand, half dozen in the other, I suppose
Posted by ronricks
Member since Mar 2021
12203 posts
Posted on 5/14/25 at 12:56 pm to
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You’re arguing multiple different things.


Because I have multiple morons on here asking questions trying to put words in my mouth. I've never told a soul on here what to eat other than to avoid:

processed foods
fast foods
sugary sodas/drinks of any kind

One clown said I thought the SAD was high in fiber

This is the stupidity I am dealing with on here and I can see why lsu777 gets like he does sometimes. If you want me to talk to these imbeciles like I am an English major from Yale that isn't happening. Its all I can to converse with these idiots in the first place with their fiber bullshite.
This post was edited on 5/14/25 at 12:57 pm
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
37536 posts
Posted on 5/14/25 at 1:01 pm to
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Because I have multiple morons on here asking questions trying to put words in my mouth. I've never told a soul on here what to eat other than to avoid:


You said fiber is totally useless and when called to task you completely changed your point to SAD is bad.

I actually generally agree with you on both points but you’ve been incapable of answering anything regarding the first
Posted by Not Cooper
Member since Jun 2015
5037 posts
Posted on 5/14/25 at 1:05 pm to
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I've never told a soul on here what to eat other than to avoid: processed foods fast foods sugary sodas/drinks of any kind

You say all of that then say fiber is totally useless.

Well doing all of that - minus fiber - equals carnivore
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