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brmark70816
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re: Getting back in shape at 40
Very cool. I am going to give it another look and will probably get it. I just wanted to actually hear from someone that has tried it. Thank you.


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re: Getting back in shape at 40
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Very cool. I am going to give it another look and will probably get it. I just wanted to actually hear from someone that has tried it. Thank you


I think it';s all about the down stroke. The push or pull first is pretty much standard. BUt you have to go slow on the back return. 3 seconds and you can really feel your muscles straining on the return stroke. Seems weird but I'm convinced that's the key to how quickly you see results. Let us know how it works for you.


brmark70816
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re: Getting back in shape at 40
So I tried for awhile and I'm sending it back. They only give you 30 days. So have to decide really quick.

For what it is worth, it works pretty good for some exercises. I like the chest press and the one for triceps. But the others are really difficult (just getting in position). Especially for someone that hasn't used weights in a couple decades.

I just don't think it's worth keeping. I've ramped up my rowing and hiking, so it kind of runs counter to them wanting a break. I might try some bands and calisthenics, until I reach my goal weight (about 30 lbs to go)..


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re: Getting back in shape at 40
Still against joining a gym?


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rebelrouser
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So no pullup exercise? How do you hit the lats?


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lsu777
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re: Getting back in shape at 40
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until I reach my goal weight (about 30 lbs to go).


i will never ever understand this sentiment. Why not lift while trying to get to your goal to maintain as much muscle as possible and maybe even gain some?

not saying you need to go to the gym. a single kettlebell, couple bands and you are in business or a 75lbs homemade sand band or rings.

but not doing anything for cardio while in a cut is the sure fire way to end up skinny fat.


Odysseus32
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i will never ever understand this sentiment. Why not lift while trying to get to your goal to maintain as much muscle as possible and maybe even gain some


I don't know about OP, but for me it was focusing on just the weight loss and nothing more from the onset. I knew myself and knew trying to go to the gym before I hit a certain number wouldn't work. Mainly because if I slipped up and didn't go to the gym, my mentality is a spiral. If I didn't go to the gym, I already fricked up, might as well have a piece of cake too. I know that's difficult to understand for people who don't have that issue, but it's a real issue.

For me, it was about breaking that mindset and doing something easy. It's a lot easier for me to wake up and go for a run, because my default activity when I get bored is running/cycling. Then when I'm done with that, I can focus on not stuffing my face. It's much more difficult to get to the gym because I don't like lifting weights, and I don't like being around other people. Both of which are required to go to the gym. Also, more black and white thinking here, but I don't want to invest in a single kettle bell or just a couple dumbbells. If I'm gonna workout, I want all the equipment. I'm not arguing for my mentality, I think its a destructive way of thinking, which is why I'm in therapy. Just giving you some insight.

Fighting obesity is more about mental victories than practical application. I could have gotten to my goal weight a lot quicker and probably retained more muscle had I stayed in the gym. But I would have given up quicker with more "obligations" on my plate.

I should also add that I wasn't worried about being skinny fat, because I had an abnormal amount of muscle when I has in high school. Had I never lifted seriously and just gotten really fat, I likely would have been worried about what I was going to look like underneath.
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but not doing anything for cardio while in a cut is the sure fire way to end up skinny fat.



When I was fat fat I would have loved to be skinny fat.


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Protein shakes. I started off with the Premier Protein shakes from Walmart/Sam’s. They did wonders to curb appetite late at night and also give me the protein I needed when losing weight to preserve muscle.


I buy these too. Please clarify. When do you drink them to curb late night eating? 6 pm? 7? Later? Late night eating is killing my weight loss efforts.


ItNeverRains
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re: Getting back in shape at 40
My advice (46) is just tone. Just enough weight to push/burn. Cardio intense walk. Be smart. Diet is more important at this age. Results take just a little bit longer so be patient. I’m 6’ 183, trying to get down to 175, it’ll take 3 weeks of discipline whereas in early 30’s I could cut that in under a week.


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I buy these too. Please clarify. When do you drink them to curb late night eating? 6 pm? 7? Later? Late night eating is killing my weight loss efforts.



Usually dinner helps for that time period. I eat a small sensible dinner around 6:30.
The first few months I would drink a shake when the snack cravings hit me like a heroin addict. Usually around 8:30-9.
The best trick to stop eating late at night is to just go to bed.


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lsu777
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re: Getting back in shape at 40
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I don't know about OP, but for me it was focusing on just the weight loss and nothing more from the onset. I knew myself and knew trying to go to the gym before I hit a certain number wouldn't work. Mainly because if I slipped up and didn't go to the gym, my mentality is a spiral. If I didn't go to the gym, I already fricked up, might as well have a piece of cake too. I know that's difficult to understand for people who don't have that issue, but it's a real issue.

For me, it was about breaking that mindset and doing something easy. It's a lot easier for me to wake up and go for a run, because my default activity when I get bored is running/cycling. Then when I'm done with that, I can focus on not stuffing my face. It's much more difficult to get to the gym because I don't like lifting weights, and I don't like being around other people. Both of which are required to go to the gym. Also, more black and white thinking here, but I don't want to invest in a single kettle bell or just a couple dumbbells. If I'm gonna workout, I want all the equipment. I'm not arguing for my mentality, I think its a destructive way of thinking, which is why I'm in therapy. Just giving you some insight.

Fighting obesity is more about mental victories than practical application. I could have gotten to my goal weight a lot quicker and probably retained more muscle had I stayed in the gym. But I would have given up quicker with more "obligations" on my plate.

I should also add that I wasn't worried about being skinny fat, because I had an abnormal amount of muscle when I has in high school. Had I never lifted seriously and just gotten really fat, I likely would have been worried about what I was going to look like underneath.


i get all that. Have to remember I was 244 in 2014 when i decided to get back into it and got down to 182. Currently around 200ish right now and am trying my best to get back to 180ish. '

But i guess i was different in that i didnt want to just be a smaller version of my self. I.E i didnt want to have skinny arse arms but still have a stomach. I wanted to look good naked.


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lsu777
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re: Getting back in shape at 40
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My advice (46) is just tone.



you tone by being at a low bodyfat % while maintaining/building muscle.

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Results take just a little bit longer so be patient. I’m 6’ 183, trying to get down to 175, it’ll take 3 weeks of discipline whereas in early 30’s I could cut that in under a week.


no it doesnt. quite a few studies that show we lose only about 10 calories per decade of life when it comes to tdee. The reason we gain weight as we get older is because our non exercise activity (NEAT) tends to decline.....i.e. we sit on the fricking couch way too much.


ItNeverRains
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no it doesnt. quite a few studies that show we lose only about 10 calories per decade of life when it comes to tdee. The reason we gain weight as we get older is because our non exercise activity (NEAT) tends to decline.....i.e. we sit on the fricking couch way too much.


How old are you? Im not arguing we don’t need to be more active as a society. But for me personally, my body has slowed down big time, and with kids sports and activities it’s harder to make time for personal care. It takes more to recover, especially from injury, and it’s safer to do lower weight higher reps.

My advice is for the guy coaching kids baseball teams, helping them study for tests at night/morning before school, grinding at work to support family, and finding a little time here and there for personal care.
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lsu777
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How old are you?


39 in a few weeks with 3 kids, oldest is 10. wife works full time

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My advice is for the guy coaching kids baseball teams, helping them study for tests at night/morning before school, grinding at work to support family, and finding a little time here and there for personal care.


you pretty much desribed my life and philosophy on lifting

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Im not arguing we don’t need to be more active as a society. But for me personally, my body has slowed down big time


no it didnt. your stress level went up tremendously, your sleep quality decreased and in turn you are moving around way less. plenty of studies that prove this. our metabolism slows down very little as we age.

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with kids sports and activities it’s harder to make time for personal care.


this is the bigger deal

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takes more to recover, especially from injury, and it’s safer to do lower weight higher reps.


not neccessarly true. sure doing very low reps like sets of 3 at 95% of true max....sure and nobody is argueing that is the rate to go.

for the record i recommend most people start with greyskull lp using the 3 day a week schedule. workouts take 45-75 min and can be done in any place with a rack and a barbell.

sure you are doing sets of 5 on the main lifts but you shouldnt really be grinding reps until you are well into the lp as you start way sub max.

from there i usually recommend people move to 531 or even start with 531. Written extensively on here about the gslp, 531 and my philosphy.

bottomline is for the guy with limited time....the best bang for his buck is lifting in a progressive manner. It is the best thing for his injury risk long term and will make the biggest impact on his physique goals...by far.

guys shouldnt be spending more than 4 hours max working out a week if you are doing it right. and you dont have to use the barbell, progessively lifting can be applied to anything. I have said repeatedly getting a set of gymnastic rings, a weighted vest and building a 50/75/100lbs sangbads can get 99% of people to their goal both physique and strength wise. and it cost less than $200 total to do that.

can kill it in less than 4 hours a week. and your above scenerio is why i recommend the home gym so much. its why i suggest using a sunday/tuesday/thursday schedule. because it allows more rest during the week when one is stressed, especially on mondays which in general tends to be the hardest on people and that schedule allows them to go to bed early.

your above scenerio is why i have recommended 531 2 days a week with the "Walrus" training as the asseccory work to allow people to make progress in a limited amount of time.

i almost alway suggest taking a walk with wife/family, playing pick up basketball with the kids, playing baseball or soccer with the kids for nice easy "conditioning" and why i suggest going hard for 8-12 min with the hard conditioning 2-3 days a week max.


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supadave3
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re: Getting back in shape at 40
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That is the most basic explanation to lose weight. How you get there should be trial and error on what works for your. I like to fast and only eat between Noon and 18:00.


I need to learn more about fasting. I basically fast several times a week as I go relatively long stretches without an appetite, so I may as well incorporate that into some kind of health strategy.


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