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re: First injection of testosterone: what to expect?

Posted on 6/5/21 at 10:03 pm to
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 6/5/21 at 10:03 pm to
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Side effects.. starting a cycle and ending are the worst. It makes me a miserable person but the gains I make are priceless.


In a side note.... I work out at home and don’t have a lot of connections. I still have my prescription but my additional usage has taken a hit. I’ve heard napgear is a good site but I’m unsure. If anyone can help me with a reliable source I’d be greatly appreciative.



We are talking trt but steroid cycles
Posted by ned nederlander
Member since Dec 2012
4227 posts
Posted on 6/5/21 at 11:31 pm to
Where did I say fibromyalgia?

I said ADHD. I said that because (now bear with me this is indeed my arse talking) the number of individuals receiving treatment for ADHD far, far exceeds the number of individuals that have a legitimate clinical problem requiring chemical intervention. We arrived at that outcome because of medical marketing, pharmaceutical incentives and social pressures. All I’m saying is a low T treatment for men presents that same holy trinity.

And thank you for noticing my username. Hopefully one day I’ll be enough of a man to deserve it.

Hey speaking of that do you know anything I can do to feel more manly?
Posted by Xcalibur2017
Member since Apr 2017
602 posts
Posted on 6/9/21 at 12:03 pm to
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I am 33 and my level was 400 as well. Interesting that you’re only doing 1 injection a week though.

I’m using cypionate as well but 2x weekly at 70mg each dose along with 500iu of HCG 2x weekly.


YOU MUST GO TO REJUVEME
Posted by Oates Mustache
Member since Oct 2011
22049 posts
Posted on 6/10/21 at 9:17 am to
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Kvothe


Did ThreauxDown kill this guy? He hasn't posted since he made this thread. RIP in peace, Koffee
Posted by Kvothe
Member since Sep 2016
2018 posts
Posted on 6/10/21 at 11:55 am to
I've posted a couple of times

I did my second shot yesterday, and placebo effect or not (I don't care either way), I would swear I have woken up with more energy both days after injection.

Yesterday I injected myself for the first time. It took me a few minutes to pump myself up mentally before going for it bc Im a little bitch, clearly. A lot more resistance than I thought there would be.
Posted by Oates Mustache
Member since Oct 2011
22049 posts
Posted on 6/10/21 at 12:23 pm to
Can you not go Sub-Q daily instead? I'm not sure how that all works.
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
30960 posts
Posted on 6/10/21 at 12:35 pm to
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Can you not go Sub-Q daily instead? I'm not sure how that all works.


no need to do daily. just need to do 2x a week at max, especially subq
Posted by Kvothe
Member since Sep 2016
2018 posts
Posted on 6/10/21 at 5:45 pm to
So, I’m guessing I administered it correctly if I’m still walking and felt the syringe “punch through” some layers before becoming easier
Posted by Shepherd88
Member since Dec 2013
4579 posts
Posted on 6/10/21 at 6:46 pm to
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lsu777


What are your preferred subQ sites? Been rotating around the stomach for past few months. Figured I’d try the thigh subQ the other day, wasn’t easy being able to find enough fat
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
30960 posts
Posted on 6/10/21 at 7:54 pm to
I just do stomach and love handle areas.
Posted by omegaman66
greenwell springs
Member since Oct 2007
22772 posts
Posted on 6/11/21 at 3:42 pm to
Doesn't this cause your body to reduce the amount of testosterone you produce? Sort of a gain now but dependent on artificial testosterone for life?

I am asking because I want to know the truth. Information is always good. Either my post might help someone or inform me. This is not an attack.
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
30960 posts
Posted on 6/11/21 at 5:44 pm to
Yes, if you inject your body stops producing. You can do a post cycle therapy but we were talking about replacement therapy.
Posted by LEASTBAY
Member since Aug 2007
14261 posts
Posted on 6/13/21 at 6:37 pm to
Didn't read all the answers here but dont inject 100mg once per week. I inject .22ml subQ. In belly fat every other day. I use a 1/3ml syringe with 31cc needle. Your estrogen and test levels will be much more balanced
Posted by Oates Mustache
Member since Oct 2011
22049 posts
Posted on 6/15/21 at 9:47 am to
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. I inject .22ml subQ. In belly fat every other day. I use a 1/3ml syringe with 31cc needle. Your estrogen and test levels will be much more balanced


This is what I've read and why I asked. Daily or every other day seems to keep your levels from peaking and valleying too much so why is every week the prescribed method?
Posted by Shepherd88
Member since Dec 2013
4579 posts
Posted on 6/15/21 at 10:17 am to
Test cypionate has a 3-5 day half life so doing it every day or every other day would be overdoing it. 2x week is preferred method.

Also, anyone that blanket recommends how much anyone should take is full of shite. Recommended dosage will be based on blood work.
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
30960 posts
Posted on 6/15/21 at 11:07 am to
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Test cypionate has a 3-5 day half life so doing it every day or every other day would be overdoing it. 2x week is preferred method.


its actualyl 7-8 days to be exact.

Both of yall are right. Ed or EOD injections are overkill and just causing scar tissue when not needed.

I posted why you do sub q earlier and it has a study linked that the levels stay more consistant when going sub q than IM so even at 3.5 days on average between shots you are looking at less than 25% between peaks and valleys.

So very little is gained between 2 times weekly and eod side effect wise, not to mention sub q keeps side effects down to begin with.

in the end yes EOD injections are better, but it becomes a point of very limited returns and the risk for greater scar tissue build up begins to out weigh anything more than twice weekly.

now if you are for some ungodly reason doing 300mg a week, then yea eod would be the preferred method. truthfully anyhting more than 200mg a week would require that.

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Also, anyone that blanket recommends how much anyone should take is full of shite. Recommended dosage will be based on blood work.



true and nto true. We know that in almost every case pharma grade test gets you in the 5-8x range for total test. So we know about what the levels should be based on range to keep side effects to a minimum.

now ultimately we know we need to be watching free test, shgb, estro levels etc more than total T and that is where you are correct.

but we do have a very good idea and we know if total T is where it needs to be and those levels are out of whack....well we need to start looking at the symptom and determining the cause and not just saying test is the issue and we need to treat that cause itself. Could be diet, activity level or could be that the person needs to control estrogen with a AI until they get bodyfat level under control.

Could be they need to be on proviron or some other natural supplment like boron to help control shgb and help free test levels remain high.

the ultimate goal is have the estro under control, shgb under control, free test levels at top of range all with using the minimum overall total t all while controlling PSA levels.

So yes 100% you are correct in that we need to see and base dosage recommendation off blood work, but if the dose is way out of line than we know they prolly need to look at other items first.
Posted by bad93ex
Member since Sep 2018
27002 posts
Posted on 6/15/21 at 11:58 am to
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Should I expect anything noticeable?


First injection, absolutely nothing

Second - Fourth (honeymoon week), you'll feel like superman until the little sister called "estrogen" shows up.

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Gains?


If you've been lifting already, try pushing yourself. Put over 100 lbs on my bench and gained 20 lbs of muscle since I started TRT but keep eating clean.
Posted by DarthRebel
Tier Five is Alive
Member since Feb 2013
21230 posts
Posted on 6/15/21 at 2:24 pm to
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Put over 100 lbs on my bench and gained 20 lbs of muscle since I started TRT


What kind of timeframe we talking about?

Posted by El Magnifico
La casa de tu mamá
Member since Jan 2014
7017 posts
Posted on 6/15/21 at 3:19 pm to
I'm 45 and my level was 625 so I didn't bother trying to get on it.
This post was edited on 6/15/21 at 10:08 pm
Posted by Oates Mustache
Member since Oct 2011
22049 posts
Posted on 6/15/21 at 4:09 pm to
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Also, anyone that blanket recommends how much anyone should take is full of shite. Recommended dosage will be based on blood work.


I've never suggested otherwise. Why is this directed at me?
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