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Dry needle muscle therapy

Posted on 5/4/18 at 6:33 am
Posted by Shepherd
Member since Nov 2009
2947 posts
Posted on 5/4/18 at 6:33 am
Anyone had this done for an aggravating area of persistent pain? Piriformis muscle is literally a pain in the arse.

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Posted by Hulkklogan
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2010
43299 posts
Posted on 5/4/18 at 7:06 am to
I've been dealing with some shoulder and elbow issues the last few weeks and dry needling helped a lot.

A good PT will needle to relieve the tension to allow you to heal faster but will also give you exercises to strengthen whatever muscles are weak that caused the injury.
Posted by Fe_Mike
Member since Jul 2015
3131 posts
Posted on 5/4/18 at 9:32 am to
Work with a girl that gets it done semi-regularly.

She says when it's done right, it's great. You instantly feel the muscle releasing tension. But she occasionally gets someone that doesn't know what they're doing and says in those cases it's pointless...pun...maybe intended?

Basically just make sure a schmuck isn't sticking you.
Posted by Shepherd
Member since Nov 2009
2947 posts
Posted on 5/4/18 at 9:56 am to
Thank you for the responses. I will update in a few days hopefully.
Posted by Hu_Flung_Pu
Central, LA
Member since Jan 2013
22163 posts
Posted on 5/4/18 at 10:19 am to
quote:

Piriformis muscle


Stretch, lacrosse ball, conventional deadlifts, and squats.
Posted by Shepherd88
Member since Dec 2013
4582 posts
Posted on 5/4/18 at 10:39 am to
I’ve done it but not to that targeted area. I’m a big believer in it
Posted by thetempleowl
dallas, tx
Member since Jul 2008
14826 posts
Posted on 5/6/18 at 3:10 pm to
This is literally the same thing as acupuncture. This had the same effect as acupuncture.

So what I am saying is that this is totally crap and works no better than placebo.
Posted by Hulkklogan
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2010
43299 posts
Posted on 5/6/18 at 5:50 pm to
Dry needling? It releases the muscles that are all knotted up/tense because of injury. I highly doubt physical therapists would be dry needling people if it didn't do anything
Posted by Ric Flair
Charlotte
Member since Oct 2005
13653 posts
Posted on 5/6/18 at 9:25 pm to
quote:

This is literally the same thing as acupuncture. This had the same effect as acupuncture.

So what I am saying is that this is totally crap and works no better than placebo.


Actually dry needling is done at trigger points, just like a trigger point injection but without lidocaine, to release the taunt bands. Acupuncture sticks needles in random places where the “chi” is disturbed.
Posted by Fe_Mike
Member since Jul 2015
3131 posts
Posted on 5/7/18 at 8:37 am to
quote:

This is literally the same thing as acupuncture. This had the same effect as acupuncture.

So what I am saying is that this is totally crap and works no better than placebo.


There is LITERALLY nothing true about this post.
Posted by KG6
Member since Aug 2009
10920 posts
Posted on 5/7/18 at 12:31 pm to
Get it done on my calves. Originally just my oeft calf as I had achilles issues running. But it was noticeable how much less knots were in the treated leg. You could just rub the right vs left calf and it felt like noght and day. So now I get both done if they start acting up.

Ive never had accupucture, but dry needling is not just sticking some needle to release bad energyvor some shite. It will get deep in a muscle trigger point. Cause some serious twitching on its own. Then they hook up electrodes and pulse it even more. Its actually uncomfortable to an extent. But it definitely helped my muscle tension.
Posted by Hu_Flung_Pu
Central, LA
Member since Jan 2013
22163 posts
Posted on 5/7/18 at 1:07 pm to
I'm wondering if I should try this also along with my sports massage.

I have terribly tight chest, shoulders, and traps.
Posted by KG6
Member since Aug 2009
10920 posts
Posted on 5/7/18 at 3:51 pm to
It actually leaves me sore. For instance, I went in to get a work up done a week out from my Ironman and I specifically told them I did not want it that close to the race, because sometimes, I'm still feeling it days later. I don't like doing it unless I need it. But it does seem to work.

I won't lie. I'm doing a bunch of other stuff too when I get it done, like ART, cupping, etc. But I had that done to the other calf too. Not until I dry needled, did it really feel different.
Posted by Ric Flair
Charlotte
Member since Oct 2005
13653 posts
Posted on 5/7/18 at 7:17 pm to
It’s not for tightness. It’s for trigger points. Although since PT’s are doing it, I can see them overusing it so they can charge for the modality. Go to a physiatrist and get a trigger point injection (same thing as dry needling, but with some lidocaine).

For whoever is talking about the piriformis, it’s a small and relatively deep muscle, so I doubt that it would be effective and probably wouldn’t trust anyone to stick a needle there, unless you want a hole in your sciatic nerve (unless guided by ultrasound with an experienced practitioner).
Posted by Hu_Flung_Pu
Central, LA
Member since Jan 2013
22163 posts
Posted on 5/7/18 at 8:34 pm to
quote:

It’s for trigger points.


My massage therapist told me today my trap and neck were trigger points. Said they were nasty. Hurt like shite.
Posted by Putty
Member since Oct 2003
25486 posts
Posted on 5/7/18 at 8:57 pm to
Had lower back pain a few years ago and my PT did it. I was very skeptical but it really helped. He was a buddy and I used to jack with him that he just wanted to see my booty bounce.
This post was edited on 5/7/18 at 9:00 pm
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
98180 posts
Posted on 5/8/18 at 1:36 pm to
A coworker goes to an athletic trainer who does something similar using a kind of roller thing.
Posted by Roscoe
Member since Sep 2007
2913 posts
Posted on 5/8/18 at 7:01 pm to
quote:

Dry needle muscle therapy quote: Piriformis muscle Stretch, lacrosse ball, conventional deadlifts, and squats


Lacrosse ball has never worked for my glute/pirifotmis pain. Always ends of referring pain down the leg.
Posted by Neauxla
New Orleans
Member since Feb 2008
33443 posts
Posted on 5/9/18 at 4:32 pm to
Where do you go for your dry needling?
Posted by KG6
Member since Aug 2009
10920 posts
Posted on 5/9/18 at 9:00 pm to
Lucky to be in an are available with a lot of runners and cyclists, so there are quite a few sports physio places. I go to one that has a chiro and PT that do it.
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