Are steroids / testosterone / PEDs allowed conversation here?

I don't see why it can't be discussed

I never used
But honestly I would try lifting heavy to be a monster first. Be the monster and look like one

I'd do them but I'm honestly scared to.

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Steroids aren't magic. You still have to do the above prescribed to get anything out of it.

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It's true he would still need to workout. But many medical studies have proven steroids alone without exercise will build muscle and strength when compared to a placebo.

I've been working out 5-6 days a week for the past 4 years and am happy with myself. But if I cycled test/tren for a few months I would absolutely make big strength and size gains while maintaining the same diet. Steroids play a huge role, that's why people turn to them

Absolutely they work and work great if combined with a great diet and program. But I have scene plenty of people who look exactly the same after a cycle cause everything else sucked. Sure they work no matter what but not enough to make a visual difference without everything else in check.

How bout SARMS discussion? Any of those worth doing? I've never done either.

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How bout SARMS discussion? Any of those worth doing? I've never done either.

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not a ton of research on them. They are no doubt effective, but carry many of the same side effects as traditional AAS and GW for example can cause cancer in high doses.

I am of the opinion that if you are at an age where you are done having kids and its something you want to mess with, by all means do so. I believe they can be used in moderation and can actually improve health if used right. But i am also of the believe its pretty much a life long decision and you are more than likely going to have to go on some form of TRT eventually. Also of the believe that you need to watch cholesterol, triglycerides, blood sugar and blood pressure levels very very closely.

For the above reasons, I usually try to steer people away from them. The results many people are looking for if they just got their diet in order and showed consistency for a year. Like real consistency where you are hitting your macros 6 out of 7 days and you are only miss a workout once a month or so.

the kinobody programs are a good case study for this and so is avatar. People simply take the macros and hit them and do 3 or so workouts a week. People are getting great results. Are the kinobody workouts and macros some huge break through? Hell no, in fact the kinobody macros kind of suck. But its gets people enough protein to hang on to the muscle they have and sets the calories to allow people to lose or gain if they want to. The workouts are fun because they focus on what most people like to lift and they use great progression schemes. Is the workout better than the Greyskull LP, not imo. But most people don't like doing heavy squats much less twice a week, so people quit. Same with deads.

its consistency & progression that are the keys. If you do those two things for any real amount of time you will get the results you are looking for.

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Any long lasting side effects or regrets about trying a cycle?

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If you want real facts, find T-Nation on the web and sniff out the forum on gear. Lurk for a while before asking any questions because the regulars are pretty anal about answering dumb questions and please don't ask where to get it. You can pretty much get all the answers you want, but seriously, you don't need gear to put on 5 pounds of muscle and cut 6% body fat.

uhhh a lot of lab testing on the big labs has shown them to be pretty damn accurate and no contamination. Anabolic lab has a bunch of testing that was done by buying anonymously and sending to accredited labs in Europe.

Paging lsu777. You got an email that I can ask you some SARM questions on?

Cool, gonna send some questions when I have some time in the next couple days.