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Any thoughts on overnight or sleep supplements that claim to promote muscle growth?

Posted on 5/12/21 at 7:54 pm
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 5/12/21 at 7:54 pm
I'm always skeptical of any supplement as I don't think the path to enlightenment is through powders and pills.

That being said I'm sure some of these have some benefit. I was looking into them today at a store and found that the pricing had a huge variance. Before I light my money on fire I figured I'd ask if anyone has any personal experience with these types of products.
Posted by jimbeam
University of LSU
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 5/12/21 at 8:05 pm to
Just drink Casein
Posted by specchaser
lafayette
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Posted on 5/12/21 at 8:05 pm to
I’m no expert at all but I think sufficient protein intake and maybe creatine are the only products you can purchase at a store that are safe and known to help with muscle growth.
Posted by Aubie Spr96
lolwut?
Member since Dec 2009
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Posted on 5/12/21 at 8:07 pm to
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Just drink Casein



This is what I’ve always heard.
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
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Posted on 5/12/21 at 8:23 pm to
Getting good sleep will promote more than enough muscle growth. Specifically, slow wave sleep. Good sleep hygeine with sufficient protein and creatine if you want to is fine.
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 5/12/21 at 9:00 pm to
I suppose I should have mentioned that's one of the selling points of the product in question - allegedly better quality sleep.
Posted by Paul Allen
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Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 5/12/21 at 9:24 pm to
ZMA
Posted by EyeOfTheFeTiger
Member since Apr 2021
468 posts
Posted on 5/13/21 at 8:35 am to
I’ve got no idea if ZMA does anything to actually promote muscle growth but I’ll be damned if I don’t get some really deep sleep when I take it

ETA: I’m currently just drinking casein before bed though
This post was edited on 5/13/21 at 8:36 am
Posted by boxcarbarney
Above all things, be a man
Member since Jul 2007
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Posted on 5/13/21 at 9:30 am to
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ZMA



This can't be stated enough. Most of us are deficient in zine and magnesium. Take you vitamin D, and ZMA. Avoid coronavirus.
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 5/13/21 at 12:58 pm to
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Good sleep hygeine


biggest thing and I am prolly the worst offender.

but casien will help as far as meeting your protein requirements.

ZMA will help you sleep

melotonin can help you get to sleep and sleep deeper but it tends to frick with my sleep pattern to where i wake up and cant get back to sleep no matter what.

also MK677 will help as it will make you produce growth hormone and have you begging for the bed.

couple others similar to melotonin that actually cross the brain barrier.

but start with meeting protein and start slowly improving sleep hygeine and getting 8 hours of full sleep.
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
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Posted on 5/13/21 at 1:06 pm to
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but casien will help as far as meeting your protein requirements.


You just need to monitor how eating late affects your sleep. When I eat late, I can see my heart r as TE stay elevated for about 2 hours then it falls off a cliff to my low sleeping rhr.

But everyone is different, so you just have to monitor it.
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 5/13/21 at 2:39 pm to
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You just need to monitor how eating late affects your sleep. When I eat late, I can see my heart r as TE stay elevated for about 2 hours then it falls off a cliff to my low sleeping rhr.

But everyone is different, so you just have to monitor it.


fo sure. some like carbs late and low fat, some the opposite.
Posted by Athos
Member since Sep 2016
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Posted on 5/13/21 at 2:48 pm to
Anything claiming that is snake oil. And if you fall for it, you may as well burn money in a fire pit.
This post was edited on 5/13/21 at 2:49 pm
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
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Posted on 5/13/21 at 2:49 pm to
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Anything claiming that is snake oil.


Not necessarily, but you are probably just overpaying for things like magnesium, zinc, and melatonin which are really cheap.
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
162231 posts
Posted on 5/13/21 at 7:46 pm to
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Anything claiming that is snake oil. And if you fall for it, you may as well burn money in a fire pit.

That's what I was thinking. It sounded like snake oil. I don't know if I'll be taking any protein before bed since I'm trying to stay in a calorie deficit
Posted by arcalades
USA
Member since Feb 2014
19276 posts
Posted on 5/15/21 at 1:47 pm to
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Take you vitamin D,
no need to take supplements this time of year if you go outside
Posted by bayouvette
Raceland
Member since Oct 2005
4740 posts
Posted on 5/31/21 at 12:46 pm to
No need for anything. Just get some sleep
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