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50 miles vs 315 power clean
Posted on 3/22/21 at 9:46 pm
Posted on 3/22/21 at 9:46 pm
A friend and I got into an argument about which of the two is a more impressive physical feat, running 50 miles or cleaning 315. Both are incredibly impressive, but I have hung out with several ultra runners but I've never had someone who could clean 315 in the friend group. I'm torn between the two, i think I'm saying the 315 clean is more impressive (valid you are under 250lbs).
Posted on 3/22/21 at 10:26 pm to Sanchez425
I’d rather look like a guy who could clean 315 than look like one who can run 50 miles.
Posted on 3/22/21 at 11:18 pm to Sanchez425
Well that’s a hard question because there are many different ways to run 50 miles but only one way to clean 315.
Are we talking RUN 50 miles at a 7 minute pace? Because that’s a lot more impressive and requires more physical talent than cleaning 315, which most people should be able to do if they get with a good olympic lifting coach and train for 10 years.
If we’re talking about the 17 min mile shuffle jog that most ultra runners do so they’ll have an excuse to put on tight neon clothes and fruity sunglasses and ultralight shoes, then cleaning 315 is much more impressive.
Are we talking RUN 50 miles at a 7 minute pace? Because that’s a lot more impressive and requires more physical talent than cleaning 315, which most people should be able to do if they get with a good olympic lifting coach and train for 10 years.
If we’re talking about the 17 min mile shuffle jog that most ultra runners do so they’ll have an excuse to put on tight neon clothes and fruity sunglasses and ultralight shoes, then cleaning 315 is much more impressive.
Posted on 3/23/21 at 6:32 am to LSUAlum2001
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I’d rather look like a guy who could clean 315 than look like one who can run 50 miles.
We can go ahead and lock this thread up now because it only goes down from here.
This post was edited on 3/23/21 at 6:32 am
Posted on 3/23/21 at 7:18 am to Sanchez425
I've come close to doing both of these at different points in my life. I've run well over 50 miles but only power cleaned about 285.
The post above that references running pace has some truth to it, but running a 10-12:00 mile for 50 miles is not easy for the average person.
Personally I feel like both are impressive for different reasons. I think most would say cleaning 315 is more impressive physically, but running 50 miles at just about any pace is significantly more impressive mentally.
The post above that references running pace has some truth to it, but running a 10-12:00 mile for 50 miles is not easy for the average person.
Personally I feel like both are impressive for different reasons. I think most would say cleaning 315 is more impressive physically, but running 50 miles at just about any pace is significantly more impressive mentally.
This post was edited on 3/23/21 at 7:19 am
Posted on 3/23/21 at 7:25 am to RainMan
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cleaning 315 is more impressive physically, but running 50 miles at just about any pace is significantly more impressive mentally
Pretty much how i feel about it. I am opposite of the OP and have known a couple that could clean 315, nut only 1 that could run 50 miles. Both are crazy impressive though.
Posted on 3/23/21 at 7:31 am to Sanchez425
315 lb power cleans. In my opinion, running doesn’t take much skill. I’m not saying it’s easy, because I certainly can’t and won’t do it. But the power clean is a complex strength movement that requires strength, speed and coordination. My best is a 255 lb clean and jerk.
ETA: before anyone crawls up my arse, my background is in strength training. I have a bias to strength.
ETA: before anyone crawls up my arse, my background is in strength training. I have a bias to strength.
This post was edited on 3/23/21 at 7:33 am
Posted on 3/23/21 at 7:40 am to Sanchez425
Running 50 ain’t that hard, but running 100 is like 10x as hard as running 50. Power cleaning that much, while it might take years of working at it over time, the hours dedicated to such a task are not nearly as great.
I never did Olympic lifts, but I used to squat in the 6s and deadlift in the 5s for multiple reps and running 100 miles was 20x harder than that. If you’re a regular marathon guy and just go really slow getting to 50 isn’t insane. Whereas, getting to 100 is.
I never did Olympic lifts, but I used to squat in the 6s and deadlift in the 5s for multiple reps and running 100 miles was 20x harder than that. If you’re a regular marathon guy and just go really slow getting to 50 isn’t insane. Whereas, getting to 100 is.
Posted on 3/23/21 at 7:47 am to LSUAlum2001
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I’d rather look like a guy who could clean 315 than look like one who can run 50 miles.
As a regular runner, I agree with this post.
Posted on 3/23/21 at 8:03 am to lsu777
I think size would also play into it. A Thor Bjornson that can power clean 315 is still impressive, but running 50 miles at that size would be more impressive imo. Conversely, someone that is my height power cleaning 315 would be insane but they could run 50 miles if they pushed themselves.
Posted on 3/23/21 at 8:18 am to Forever
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an excuse to put on tight neon clothes and fruity sunglasses
I feel like you’ve peered into my soul.
Posted on 3/23/21 at 9:00 am to DeafJam73
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before anyone crawls up my arse, my background is in strength training. I have a bias to strength.
This is me, much more impressed by strength movements. I was a big time runner until high school where i discovered my love for lifting. I still ran a mile 2-3 times a week while at LSU. In the army i always maxed pushups and situps easily and would barely max the run. I grew to despise the run, hated every minute and hated that it represented an energy system and skill that I would never use in my job.
I have zero desire to run more than sprints and see it as an ineffecient waste of time. Now I am extremely impressed with the mental side and the dark place one must go to be able to run 50 miles in any decent time.
Posted on 3/23/21 at 9:19 am to Andychapman13
This is an apples to oranges comparison. if you take a normal person on any given day they can "run" 50 miles (if they are willing to hurt) but no way they can power clean 315. the only way you can compare these is by putting a pace or finish time for the 50 miles. no idea how you do that to make these equal in magnitude.
Posted on 3/23/21 at 9:23 am to Sanchez425
I’m about to be that internet guy. At some point this past fall I was good for a sub 12hr 50 miler and a 550ish DL and 360ish BP. At that point 315 on PC would be very close for me. In college I was good for 365 on PC. As of right now I haven’t lifted seriously in a couple of months bc I’ve been racing ultras every 3-4 weeks. However even when I’ve taken time off of the iron, my bottom floor has been 500 on DL for 5-8 reps. I said all that to say that I think I can do both haha....maybe
Posted on 3/23/21 at 9:28 am to Macrell
Yeah, I’m not buying this at all.
Posted on 3/23/21 at 9:33 am to Macrell
prove it, video you doing 500 on DL for 8 reps and post a link to your ultra. Other wise you are full of shite.
This isnt the OT where we just make shite up.
This isnt the OT where we just make shite up.
Posted on 3/23/21 at 9:40 am to Sanchez425
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Yeah, I’m not buying this at all.
Well, I know him so I know he can do both. He did an ultra 3 weeks ago on the course that I did my first 100.
Posted on 3/23/21 at 9:41 am to lsu777
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prove it, video you doing 500 on DL for 8 reps and post a link to your ultra. Other wise you are full of shite.
Lsu777, normally I defer to you on stuff. I know this guy, he’s not making this up. If you saw a pic of him you’d know he can DL over 500. And like I said above, he did an ultra the same day I did my 100 miler on the same course.
This post was edited on 3/23/21 at 9:44 am
Posted on 3/23/21 at 9:42 am to lsu777
Well crap. Do I gotta hold up a newspaper or something? I got the voodoo bon temp 2 man relay this weekend. That’ll be roughly 65 miles apiece for me and my friend. I guess I can deadlift tomorrow and tag andychapman in a Facebook post or something. I got some videos up from a 50k/360bp/550dl in the same week.
Posted on 3/23/21 at 9:47 am to Macrell
Macrell, we are on an Internet forum. People are gonna call you out no matter what. I used to share player injury inside info, recruiting info, and coaching hires info regularly, but after enough years of people dogging me I just gave up. Some people just see these fetes as impossible themselves therefore will dog you no matter what.
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