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re: 2 Year "Ketoversary"

Posted on 1/29/19 at 11:49 am to
Posted by jennyjones
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Posted on 1/29/19 at 11:49 am to
Thanks for sharing!!! Keep up the good work
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
39850 posts
Posted on 1/29/19 at 11:50 am to
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FatMan
Congrats on every facet of this!

Any other noticeable "side" benefits? (skin, sex life, healing times, etc.)

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I went against conventional wisdom and everything i had learned after having diabetes nearly 20 years
Would you mind enumerating the most stark pieces of CW that you proved were misguided? TIA

Posted by Tiger Ryno
#WoF
Member since Feb 2007
108311 posts
Posted on 1/29/19 at 3:47 pm to
Great job man. Keep up the fight. You saved your own life and gave your kids a huge gift to have their dad around.
Posted by DallasTiger11
Los Angeles
Member since Mar 2004
13553 posts
Posted on 1/29/19 at 9:29 pm to
Damn dude congrats.

Love reading these on here
Posted by FatMan
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2016
2071 posts
Posted on 1/29/19 at 9:38 pm to
Haha, great question!
So, whenever my doctor brings ups statins and my cholesterol being a problem I asked for a particle size test and a coronary calcium score- never orders it... Then I educate him on HDL to triglyceride ratio and remnant cholesterol. He's not happy but it's led him to do research and he has not fired me as a patient.
Not keto friendly at all, so when he criticizes me about my diet I remind him that he wanted me to have a high mortality and morbidity surgery, then we go our separate ways.
This post was edited on 1/29/19 at 9:41 pm
Posted by FatMan
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2016
2071 posts
Posted on 1/29/19 at 9:49 pm to
Conventional Wisdom taught by the ADA:
1) cholesterol is dangerous. a normal humans total cholesterol needs to be less than 200, so arbitrarily a diabetics cholesterol needs to be less than 160. I s*** you not there is no science to back that up they just figure since someone has diabetes it would benefit them to have a cholesterol 40 points lower.
2) eat at least 60 to 75 grams of carbs 3 times a day, and 3 15g snacks. Great idea for someone who cannot make insulin, why don't we have them inject insulin six separate times per day, surely that won't lead to wait gain? Once you think about it it's so obvious, yet I did this for 18 years.
3) ketones are dangerous for a diabetic. Having been dka in my life this was the hardest to get over for me. Even is a diabetic and a nurse I did not know the difference between ketosis and dka.
4) saturated fat and red meat are the devil and will surely cause me to have a heart attack.

Keep in mind I believed all this for years, I am not proud of this. There are several people on this board that often post you all are crazy for thinking you know more than a doctor, I do not claim to know more than a doctor but I will surely study, test, and think about anything that is passed off as absolute. Not to go all conspiracy theory, but my biggest advice I can give to anyone is to investigate things on their own. Condemnation without investigation =s ignorance.
Posted by FatMan
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2016
2071 posts
Posted on 1/29/19 at 9:52 pm to
Skin benefit is amazing oh, I used to have dry patchy eczema my legs, lower back, elbows. It's all gone now.

Sex, you can imagine being nearly 400 lb to 100++ lbs less, things get better, lol.

Not sure about healing time, but I have three kids under the age of 7 and I have really gotten sick in the last 2 years. No colds, no flu, no gastric bugs-my entire life with diabetes I would be lucky to go 3 to 6 months without getting sick or catching something, especially since I've had kids.

Between keto and intermittent fasting the biggest difference is mood / attitude / mental focus. It is amazing.
Posted by zatetic
Member since Nov 2015
5677 posts
Posted on 1/29/19 at 10:16 pm to
Good on you man. It's rough going against the grain, even though like you point out the grain can be nonsensical. But it is worth it when you can stand tall saying I did it! If you like learning about those health nutrition things What I've Learned helped me understand the science behind a lot of it.
Posted by FatMan
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2016
2071 posts
Posted on 1/29/19 at 10:25 pm to
One of my favorite channels!

It's weird what you can uncover free on pubmed.
Posted by bayoubengals88
LA
Member since Sep 2007
24671 posts
Posted on 1/30/19 at 7:49 am to
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So, whenever my doctor brings ups statins and my cholesterol being a problem I asked for a particle size test and a coronary calcium score- never orders it... Then I educate him on HDL to triglyceride ratio and remnant cholesterol. He's not happy but it's led him to do research and he has not fired me as a patient.
Not keto friendly at all, so when he criticizes me about my diet I remind him that he wanted me to have a high mortality and morbidity surgery, then we go our separate ways.

damn.
Posted by miramon
Member since Oct 2016
214 posts
Posted on 1/30/19 at 9:54 pm to
Doctors are not qualified to discuss nutrition. Theyre still going off 1980’s studiea that have been debunked for 20 years.
Posted by CoachChappy
Member since May 2013
34208 posts
Posted on 1/31/19 at 8:36 am to
My doctor literally showed me the Food Pyramid and told me to eat more whole grains. He said my heart was going to give out eating that much fat. I can't wait to go see his old arse in 5 months.
Posted by FatMan
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2016
2071 posts
Posted on 1/31/19 at 4:09 pm to
Be sure to post it!
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
39850 posts
Posted on 2/1/19 at 3:45 pm to
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2) eat at least 60 to 75 grams of carbs 3 times a day, and 3 15g snacks.
This is the part that drives me the most nuts.

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Keep in mind I believed all this for years, I am not proud of this. There are several people on this board that often post you all are crazy for thinking you know more than a doctor, I do not claim to know more than a doctor but I will surely study, test, and think about anything that is passed off as absolute. Not to go all conspiracy theory, but my biggest advice I can give to anyone is to investigate things on their own. Condemnation without investigation =s ignorance.


It's weird how doctors became the go to lords on this stuff. They barely study it in med school. And then what they DO study is based off of tired, horribly biased non-science.

Congrats on seizing your own outcomes. Your family will be thanking you for years! (those aren't beers, those are white-topped steins holding scotch on the rocks )
Posted by Martini
Near Athens
Member since Mar 2005
49661 posts
Posted on 2/1/19 at 5:49 pm to
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Haha, great question!
So, whenever my doctor brings ups statins and my cholesterol being a problem I asked for a particle size test and a coronary calcium score- never orders it... Then I educate him on HDL to triglyceride ratio and remnant cholesterol. He's not happy but it's led him to do research and he has not fired me as a patient.
Not keto friendly at all, so when he criticizes me about my diet I remind him that he wanted me to have a high mortality and morbidity surgery, then we go our separate ways.



I see Jeff Hyde as my cardiologist and Gary Field as my endocrinologist and both are ok with my doing keto. They both like seeing the weight come off as it benefits all of my numbers.
Posted by FatMan
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2016
2071 posts
Posted on 2/1/19 at 6:52 pm to
BigScrub, I'll be honest, back when we had mixed insulin and you had to eat or die- the 60-75 gram meals with snacks were vital. But insulin and technology have changed, and the MDs forget to change the nutrition.

It is a sad broken system though :*(
Posted by FatMan
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2016
2071 posts
Posted on 2/1/19 at 6:54 pm to
I don't see Dr. Field, but he knows I do keto and has asked a few questions.
Glad you see people who support what you do!
Posted by FatMan
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2016
2071 posts
Posted on 2/5/19 at 6:56 am to
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Have you found something to cure your sweet tooth or do you just suck it up?


Wife just made me a red velvet cake with cream cheese icing for my birthday, it was amazing. Literal fatbomb as well.
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